Posted on 02/24/2005 10:19:19 PM PST by Fizzie
Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question
by CBS4 News reporter Raj Chohan
Feb 24, 2005 8:03 pm US/Mountain BOULDER, Colo. (CBS4) Boulder County resident Duke Prentup has been a fan of native American art for as long as he can remember. That love of art took him to the home of Ward Churchill in the early 1980's, where Prentup bought several pieces of Churchill's art, including a serigraph titled "Winter Attack."
"I have enjoyed them ever since immensely, they're obviously up inside my house," Prentup said.
Last month came a stunning revelation, though, as as Prentup flipped through a 1972 book called The Mystic Warriors of the Plains written and illustrated by the late artist Thomas E. Mails. He found a sketch that was strikingly similar to the Churchill piece.
(Excerpt) See the rest of the article, and photo comparisons of the 2 pieces of art here: http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html
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This whole thing is just getting to be comical.
It's POSTMODERNISM!
Therefore, Ward isn't a fraud, he's just a postmodern artist.
(I gotta stop laughing...)
LOL! Classic.
The News4 man, Raj Chohan, confronted Churchill with a copy of his signed "original" artwork obtained from a buyer called Duke Prentup and was nearly punched for his trouble.
"Get that camera out of my face," Churchill said.
"This is an artwork we've got called 'Winter Attack.' It looks like it was based on a Thomas Mails painting; it looks like you ripped it off. Can you tell us about that?" Chohan asked.
That prompted Churchill to take a swing at Chohan while he held a stack of papers in his hand. The exchange continued:
Chohan: "Sir, that's assault, you can't do that. Can I ask you about this? It looks like you copied it."
Churchill: "I was just grabbed by the arm. And that (camera) gets out of my face."
Chohan: "Sir, we're allowed to take these pictures, this is a public space."
Churchill: "You're not allowed to grab be by the arm."
Chohan: "He didn't touch you sir, we've got it all on tape. Sir, this is called Winter Attack. It's a serigraph by you. It looks like it was copied from Thomas Mails artwork. Can we talk to you about that please?"
Full melt-down, right before our eyes. Hehee!
So true, hoosier, and it's usually the husband or boyfriend.
I am sure I saw the photo for that painting either in the Heard Museum in Pheonix or in the North Arizona Museum (?) in Flagstaff.
BINGO!
Bagehot wrote:
I think he's a load of fun - far better to have him wounded, hanging in the breeze, talking his hateful garbage, getting further out there, more and more discredited, a clear fraud, than martyred on the altar of Bill O'Reilly. He's an asset to the right, and our representatives should be asking Ken Salazar EVERY DAY whether he supports the dismissal of this clown, asking Reid, and Pelosi the same thing.
It's better to use this than to have him become another left wing victim.
Yes, better to see the forest then to pluck this troublesome weed.
He is also telling lies about his service in Vietnam. Roll up what you find at LGF, Michelle Malkin, and the Denver post and you have a classic poseur and military fraud.
The taxpayers of Colorado must be just happy as can be.
http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2005/02/ward-churchill-he-lies-about-his.html
All this talk of Native American art has inspired me to look up the art work of my first cousin twice removed, Woodrow Wilson (Woody) Crumbo.....I looks to me the Wart was trying to achieve some of the things Woody was successful doing.
Want to hear a funny one? Willard Stone was a full blood Cherokee, and one of the most famous Indian artist's. His son is an artist too, but cannot sell his art as "Indian Art" because his dad did not have a roll number. Is this a great country or what?
Willard Stone lived and died in Locust Grove, OK. I knew him.
He's about to find out just how relevant it is when the market for this stuff starts dropping. ;-)
WAIT a minute! If the painting is original, it's original and NOT copied. A copyist cannot claim "originality". However, if its a painted copy or facsimile of an original, the copyist must credit the original artist - even if its a photographer. I know, because I sometimes use photos for my own "art models" - not having any live models at hand. However, I am not a copiest nor a duplicator. I use a figure or face in a photograph as a guide for proportion and gesture for my entirely original subject.
Outside of academic settings, is there any requirement to credit public domain works? To be sure, it's generally done, but if I paint a woman who looks like the Mona Lisa standing next to Abraham Lincoln, do I have to credit either Leonardo da Vinci or the original photographer?
Well, thanks for that hypothetical! What I can tell you is this: some of my artist friends who copy/trace/photo project paintings, reproductions (prints,) illustrations or photographs, or parts thereof, must credit the originator IF the painting is offered for sale or exhibited.
As an example, my artist colleague copied (painted) a (millpond) scene from an old battered oil painting by an obscure artist. Because she planned to exhibit her painting for sale, she felt ethically obligated to credit the artist by noting on the back of her painting, "Based on a oil painting dated 1921 by John Doe." Her rendition slightly resembled the original because she changed the light source, the figure's clothing colour and the foliage around the pond, some background slightly different. Whether or not artist John Doe had a copyright, this is the ethical thing to do.
Ward Churchill's plagiarism and fraudulent representation is blatant, absolutely blatant!
It's certainly is a condemning load of S**T pouring out of Churchill's closet. I find that very consoling.
Over at DU, a few die-hards are claiming that it's not copyright infringement, it's not fraud, it's not a flat-out copy....
It's POSTMODERNISM!
Therefore, Ward isn't a fraud, he's just a postmodern artist.
(I gotta stop laughing...)
***The leftist tenet is "Deny, deny, lie and dismiss."
the eBay seller of the STUNNING SERIGRAPH..., ended the listing early, no sale,...top bid, $380 5617counter hits
Check above post......What do you think happened?
seller could have an offer too good to refuse,...going either way,...seler just pays the required fees and maybe we never know where this goes?!?!?
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