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Terri Schiavo - Won't Someone Help?
The National Ledger ^ | Feb 22, 2005 | L.A. Morris

Posted on 02/22/2005 9:41:17 AM PST by AliVeritas

Sixth Circuit Court Judge George Greer ruled late Monday afternoon that George Felos and Michael Schiavo cannot implement their stated plan to withdraw the gastric feeding tube of Terri Schindler-Schiavo until a hearing is held on Weds, Feb 23 to determine if the stay in effect from Greer's 2000 death order should remain in place while her parents, Mary and Robert Schindler Sr., continue with their legal options in trying to keep her alive.

The Schindlers had hoped to convince the court that starving Terri to death would violate her religious liberties. As a Catholic, the Schindlers contend Terri would not want to have her life ended.

If anyone ever deserved a second chance, it's Terri Schiavo, the central figure in a battle for the rights of the handicapped. She has no idea of the controversy swirling about her, and has been unaware of the fight for her life since she collapsed of a potassium deficiency in 1990. But regardless of the why and how, Terri's collapse starved her brain of oxygen, and she has never been mentally or physically revived past a semi-vegetative state.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalledger.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; schiavo; terrischiavo
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To: HMFIC

You've twice stated that she was 'just lying there' or a 'dent in the sheets'.

This description is completely wrong.

She is not 'just lying there', she is interactive with her parents and she sits upright.

She responds to her parents when spoken too and even laughs when they tease her.

This is hardly someone in a 'vegetative state'.


41 posted on 02/22/2005 11:10:20 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: HMFIC
You are using the Bible to advocate murder. Terri has no living will and has not expressed a desire to be starved to death. As such, the Catholic Church's position on starving oneself to death being justifiable suicide is moot.

I don't know if Terri told her husband her wishes, and neither do you; you don't know whether she told him anything regarding her own euthanasia, or if she told him she wanted to die under the circumstances she now finds herself, or if she told him she wanted to live under such circumstances.

You are advocating for the death of this woman, not knowing the facts; I am advocating for her life.

It is a very important truism: If the possibility for error is in play, one should err on the side of life.

42 posted on 02/22/2005 11:11:09 AM PST by Chunga
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To: cubreporter

THIS JUST IN!!!!

NOW Judge Greer HAS FINALLY SIGNED THE MOTION FOR A STAY!!!!

Terri will not begin starving today!!!

Thank YOU LORD!!!


43 posted on 02/22/2005 11:11:43 AM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: HMFIC

The parent's position is ridiculous. It is starkly apparent that Terry is NEVER COMING BACK! It is JUST A SHELL lying there.

>p>Thats for God to decide. No one else. Couldn't you at least have called her she?


44 posted on 02/22/2005 11:12:41 AM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: eeevil conservative

please provide a link


45 posted on 02/22/2005 11:13:46 AM PST by paltz
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To: eeevil conservative

where are you seeing this?


46 posted on 02/22/2005 11:14:06 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (My quaker parrot can talk, can Your honor student fly?)
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To: Kleon

And what 'medical professionals' might that be?

The ones advocating her death?

You mean the video lied?

She really isn't sitting upright and laughing and crying?

How does one remotely exam someone from a video?


47 posted on 02/22/2005 11:15:24 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: tiredoflaundry

Blogs for Terri just posted it!

http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/2005/02/judge_greer_iss.php


48 posted on 02/22/2005 11:16:03 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

whew. Thank God


49 posted on 02/22/2005 11:17:36 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (My quaker parrot can talk, can Your honor student fly?)
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To: eeevil conservative

Apparently it didn't do any good.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1348747/posts


50 posted on 02/22/2005 11:17:56 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

udge Greer Issues Temporary Stay till 5:00 pm tomorrow!

Attorneys for the Schindlers have just been notified that Judge Greer has granted their Emergency Motion for a Temporary Stay. The new Stay will hold over until after tomorrow's hearing and by its terms will remain in effect until 5:00 pm, February 23.

2nd DCA Issues MANDATE Without Further Instructions
As expected, the 2nd District Court of Appeals issued its Mandate this afternoon at 1:00. The stay protecting Terri's life has now expired by its own terms. A motion for a new stay is set to be heard by Judge Greer tomorrow at 2:45. [more]

Attorneys for the Schindlers have been advised that Judge Greer is in possession of the 2nd DCA's Mandate and their Emergency Motion for a Temporary Stay, and that he intends to rule on that motion this afternoon as soon as possible.

In the meantime, Terri is being fed. Her family is with her and she is doing well.

this is also from Blogs for Terri


51 posted on 02/22/2005 11:17:59 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: HMFIC
I am SURE that if THEY were lying there just sucking air in, no thought process, no brain activity, just a dent in the sheets, they'd be begging to go with dignity.

Are you a doctor that's examined Terri? Actually, the Schindlers are trying to get the court to allow tests. Greer usually rules against it.

"In light of the miraculous awakening of Miss Sarah Scantlin in Kansas and the success of the new brainwave test reported in the New York Times this week, my daughter deserves to have this test before she is starved to death by judicial decree," said Terri’s father, Bob Schindler, in a written statement issued Feb. 11.

Link here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1343562/posts

52 posted on 02/22/2005 11:18:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: HMFIC

Why is the husband in such an all-fired hurry to have his wife die? Is there any life insurance involved? If he doesn't want her, why doesn't he just let her parents take over the responsibility? There is something about Terri's husband that just doesn't pass the smell test.


53 posted on 02/22/2005 11:19:38 AM PST by Will_Kansas
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To: HMFIC

You are one cruel individual. God help you.


54 posted on 02/22/2005 11:20:06 AM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: HMFIC
Four, if this was a welfare patient, sucking down tax dollars, would ANY of YOU feel different? Damn straight you would.

That is BS and if you had spent any time here, you would know it. This is a human life we are talking about. Money has nothing to do with it (from our perspective, anyway). Incidentally, why do you feel the need to shout? Are your opinions not sufficiently valid on their own?

55 posted on 02/22/2005 11:23:52 AM PST by luv2ski
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To: CharlesWayneCT
even in an article that seems to be pro-Terri, the journalist assumes that Terri is unaware of her surroundings or the controversy. But that of course is one of the key disputes in the case.

It is really the only issue that matters. All the other issues about the character of Michael and the judge in the case are an annoying distraction.

56 posted on 02/22/2005 11:24:46 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life!)
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To: eeevil conservative
THIS JUST IN!!!! NOW Judge Greer HAS FINALLY SIGNED THE MOTION FOR A STAY!!!! Terri will not begin starving today!!! Thank YOU LORD!!!

PRAISE THE LORD! Tears of happiness for Terri here!

57 posted on 02/22/2005 11:24:54 AM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Bigh4u2
And what 'medical professionals' might that be? The ones advocating her death?

Terri's own neurologist said these are just reflexes.

You mean the video lied?

I wouldn't rule that out.

How does one remotely exam someone from a video?

Isn't that what these people who watch this video are doing?

58 posted on 02/22/2005 11:25:03 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Will_Kansas

You got THAT right!

You don't know the half of it. He is shacked up with his finace- they have two kids already as well-

He and Terri had a fight the night she collpased- Terri's friend begged her to not stay at home that night and come to her place- BTW the fight was over HIM CHEATING! AGAIN!

If he just divorces her- he not only loses out on all the $$$$ he begged and sued for to take care of her-- but then when Terri does get therapy and she can talk-- he just might end up in the slammer!


59 posted on 02/22/2005 11:29:21 AM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Kleon

'When I ask for evidence that she is not in this is not the case, I get directed to a video her parents made that has been discredited by medical professionals. How am I supposed to know the truth?'

Keon, somewhere I read in the last few days that one doctor said her brain was not mush, and that it had actually improved between 1996 and 2002 (I think those were the dates). That was news to me, although I never considered Terri to be PVS anyway. My computer has crashed so many times, that I'm not sure if I got to save a copy of it or not. Now that Terri has gotten a reprieve [THANK YOU, LORD!], I will try to find it. If anyone finds it in the meantime and posts it, that would be great.


60 posted on 02/22/2005 11:30:27 AM PST by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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