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When Are You Guys Going to Get It?
LA Times ^ | February 13, 2005 | Deborah Blum

Posted on 02/20/2005 3:32:14 PM PST by neverdem

GENDER STUDIES

In Victorian times, scientists argued that women's brains were too small to be fully human. On the intelligence scale, researchers recommended classifying human females with gorillas.

The great 19th century neuroanatomist Paul Broca didn't see the situation as quite so dire, but he warned his colleagues that women were not capable of being as smart as men, "a difference that we should not exaggerate, but which is nonetheless real."

The president of Harvard University suggested that a lack of "innate ability" might help explain why women couldn't keep up with men in fields like math and science … oh, wait, that one happened just last month.

Hold for a minute — OK — while I dig out my corset and bustle.

If that sounds snotty, I mean it to be.

I, for one, am ready to leave the 19th century behind. Harvard President Lawrence H. Summers can apologize all he wants, but the fact is that — from a position of power — he felt comfortable speculating about women's inadequate intelligence and ignoring years worth of science that proved him wrong.

I don't find that excusable. Period.

And I wonder why we women are so willing to tolerate this kind of behavior.

Summers raised the issue of women's lesser capabilities in an economic conference in Cambridge, Mass., in mid-January. And the most consistent response from women — the one still resonating across the country — is defensiveness.

A litany of female scholars quote studies proving that, yes, we girls can do long division, actually understand a chemical formula, comprehend a physical law or two and not only become professional scientists but do good work.

In fact, when allowed, women have done excellent science for decades, even since the corset-and-bustle days. The physicist Marie Curie won....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: academia; genetics; larrysummers; sexdifferences; summers
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To: Dashing Dasher

Side note: You might want to avoid the all-married-women-should-have-babies-because-they-have-the-right-equipment-for-it threads that pop up occasionally. :-)


681 posted on 02/21/2005 1:01:16 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader
I sold my "equipment" on eBay.
682 posted on 02/21/2005 2:01:06 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (It's time to turn over a new leaf, again.)
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To: 506trooper
Do jackhammers have kickstands?

Ducking and running....as fast as my short little legs will go!

683 posted on 02/21/2005 2:17:20 PM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: Torties

Did you stomp your foot when you posted that? :o)


684 posted on 02/21/2005 2:19:37 PM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: Dashing Dasher
Can you point out where any conservatives have ever said anything negative to you about your choices of career/ no children?
685 posted on 02/21/2005 2:29:17 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: BraveMan
"The author has all that additional cortical complexity from a mightier corpus callosum and what does she do with it? Tears off on another "Men Are The Root Of All My Problems" rant. Nice..."

~oh vey. :o)
{~STOP it right NOW!! You're killing me! {g} }

"Pity the poor schmuck that gets involved with her..."

Whoa there partner, y'know my K was a flaming Liberal-feminist when I met her, don't you?
Although that was then & this is now, *look* what I sculpted of that magnificent woman. Thankye-thankye. ;^)

I mean just where'd I'd be today.

...had I given up on the girl? {g}

686 posted on 02/21/2005 3:05:42 PM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
So what. Who are you to judge that person? I didn't finish college. What is your point?

Here's another post of yours:
When a woman goes to college just to get hitched, yes I'd say that's a waste. I hope she plans on learning something on her way down the wedding aisle.

I have learned a lot. Hopefully, in the future, you will also.
687 posted on 02/21/2005 3:15:22 PM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: Landru
Although that was then & this is now, *look* what I sculpted of that magnificent woman. Thankye-thankye. ;^)

We both know she'd kick your @#%&*@#% into next week if she caught you saying that . . . ;0)

688 posted on 02/21/2005 3:47:24 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Dashing Dasher

I agree, that judgment is amazing and sad. Congratulation to you and your success! I have a friend who has the similar situation. She has to put up with that as well. Just goes to show you, everyone's circumstance is different. Everyone wants something different from their life. The one choice is not wrong and neither is the other choice. It's the judgment of some that is wrong.


689 posted on 02/21/2005 3:50:09 PM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: 506trooper
Do we have to have popcorn again? Can you pick up some onion dip and chips instead :)
690 posted on 02/21/2005 3:55:16 PM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Yes, I can.
I have a collection.

Lucky - I also have thick skin - and a long memory.


691 posted on 02/21/2005 4:03:22 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (It's time to turn over a new leaf, again.)
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To: Dashing Dasher
Well I would be interested in seeing some of these statements you claim were made by conservatives harassing you for choosing to have a career and not children.
692 posted on 02/21/2005 4:05:07 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Listen, if you don't believe me - that's fine.
I have better things to do than to dig up this proof to you. What I can do - is next time I get a comment like that - I'll ping you!

How does that sound?


693 posted on 02/21/2005 4:07:09 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (It's time to turn over a new leaf, again.)
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To: neverdem

Dumb, whiney bimbo.


694 posted on 02/21/2005 4:07:47 PM PST by Fledermaus (I Googled "Democrat+Sane" and got no hits.)
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To: Dashing Dasher
Hey I am not the one who showed up here making comments which I can not support.

Yes, I doubt that Conservatives Harass you or say anything mean to you at all about you choosing to be childless and follow your career.

Your comments on this thread about your treatment by conservatives as a whole, are not honest.

695 posted on 02/21/2005 4:11:17 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Landru
I see your point- BTW!
696 posted on 02/21/2005 4:56:37 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I've had run ins with you before and prefer not to play your game.

bye.


697 posted on 02/21/2005 5:18:38 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (It's time to turn over a new leaf, again.)
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To: Dashing Dasher
LOL-OH- Ok. Don't you mean you can never answer the questions I ask you, or provide any backup for what you say?

Suit yourself- it is a Free Republic after all.

698 posted on 02/21/2005 5:24:13 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
"Do jackhammers have kickstands?"

LOL

You saw that, huh!

699 posted on 02/21/2005 7:01:46 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: 506trooper

700


700 posted on 02/21/2005 7:02:51 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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