Posted on 02/17/2005 1:55:46 PM PST by quidnunc
Q: After having read many accounts of the Civil War, I still don’t understand why South Carolina fired on Ft. Sumter, galvanizing the North into war. What do you think might have happened had the South continued to let these coastal forts be manned by the Union for a longer time?
Hanson: I think conflict was inevitable, because the South had little appreciation of Northern industrial power nor of the competence of a number of formerly nondescript Union officers. The best officers of the Mexican War had joined the Confederacy and there was an erroneous general impression that all superior commanders had left the Union, and with vaunted Southern courage, a big victory or two would teach the Yankees that going into the Confederacy was simply not worth the trouble, especially for the increasingly controversial idea of emancipation. …
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btw, they LOL at you, as well.
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there are several on FR.
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i can't imagine that you want "heyworth the hateFILLED" on your team, BUT the loyal southrons are DELIGHTED that he is on YOURS!
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That's like saying that our soldiers in WWII fought because they wanted to protect their buddies. It's a true statement, but it doesn't answer the question as to cause.
Think counter-factually: If all of the states had been slave states, or none of the states were slave states, would the Civil War still have happened? Obviously not.
The fact that US leadership said it was about preserving the Union doesn't change the fact that the southern states left because they knew slave-owning was being slowly squeezed out. They didn't want to stay on that path. And that's why they left, not because of tarriffs or cultural issues or whatever. The war could have easily been avoided if the Northern states would have agreed to a constitutional ammendment protecting slavery. But the North was not about to even consider any such thing. Hence the war. It was between the South, which insisted on slavery in perpetuity, and the North, which insisted that slavery be phased out.
otoh, the damnyankee coven of liars, thugs,racist & CRIMINALS around lincoln, the tyrant, were certainly ALL scum & human filth.
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See what I mean?
just a formal APOLOGY for what was done to our ancestors by the "filth in blue" AND an admission from the government that they still hold over TWO BILLION DOLLARS ( $ 2,000,000,000.oo) that belongs to the tribes (the so-called "trust fund" that until the klintoon administration was in BIA hands. it has since "mysteriously disappearred".)
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So Doolittle, LeMay, Eaker, Spaatz, et.al. were also war criminals? In WWII the whole philosophy of strategic bombing was to dislocate the enemy home front, their production and productivity, "de-house" the German and Japanese workforce, and to EDEMORALIZE the enemy civilian populations and teach them a lesson on what war was all about.
Would you want Lt. Joe Schmoe who flew B-17's to get charged with murder like that poor serviceman in Iraq is, just because he shot first?
You're reasoning is specious. Sherman was a great field general, cut from the same mold as Patton.
"We're going to cut out those g_ddamn Krauts' intestines from their bellies and use 'em to grease the treads of our tanks!"
What the heck kind of conservative are you? THINK!!!!!!
most NORMAL people (at least in dixie), who have an education AND "an IQ over room temperature" do NOT believe that the coven of criminals & sycophants around lincoln were decent/well-meaning/honorable.
furthermore, every day that passes, more people figure out that the south was RIGHT & thus the damnyankee cause was wrong.
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Did you know in WWII that Rommel, von Rundstedt, and Guderian studied Forrest's tactics and incorporated them in their blitzkrieg philosophies?
Well, he was right about one thing ."The one who wins is the one who gets there the fastest with the mostest."
Horse Hockey!
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Your argument assumes that the CSA was a sovereign nation. The CSA was never recognized as a sovereign nation.
There IS no Dixie or North. There are no Yankees or rebs anymore.
We're all AMERICANS. Damn, you'd think after 9/11 some of you would GET that.
BTW, I'm a Cleveland Indians fan. I HATE the Yankees, too.
;-)
The USA owes no apology to the descendants of traitors and rebels.
AND an admission from the government that they still hold over TWO BILLION DOLLARS ( $ 2,000,000,000.oo) that belongs to the tribes (the so-called "trust fund" that until the klintoon administration was in BIA hands. it has since "mysteriously disappearred".)
What do the failings of the Bureau of Indian Affairs have to do with this thread?
Come on Watie. Show where I've said something racist or apologize. You claim to be a southern gentleman. Let's see it.
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