Posted on 02/06/2005 6:16:36 AM PST by NYer
NEW YORK, February 4, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Last week pro-lifers reacted with disdain when Hillary Clinton belatedly attempted to modify, at least in the public eye, her militant support for abortion. She failed to impress with her sincerity when she called abortion a tragic choice for women and suggested abortifacient contraceptives as a solution. Exit polls showing voter interest in moral issues has shaken Democrat confidence in their leftist social agenda.
This week, former presidential candidate John Kerry, still calling himself a Catholic, followed the new Democratic Party policy in attempting to use pro-life language to continue pushing their agenda of unrestricted abortion. Kerry claims that the Democrats have talked about this for a long period of time.
Kerrys remarks came in an interview on NBCs Meet the Press. The discussion is not about being pro-abortion. The discussion is about how you truly value life. Valuing life is also valuing choice. Valuing life is the exception for the life of a mother or rape or incest, he said.
Can anyone make out what he is trying to say? said Samantha Singson a spokesperson for Canadas Campaign Life Coalition. These people are just proving with every word that they dont have even the concept of a moral framework. They cannot even convincingly pretend to be moral people. I think they should stop trying before they embarrass themselves further, she said.
Singson said the incident reminded her of a quote from the famed Star Trek character Mr. Spock who said, "a civilized man can pretend to be a barbarian, but no barbarian can pretend to be a civilized man.
These people are doing their best to muddy the water about where it is they stand on this topic.
#23 - love your graphics!!
Ah hows about a soccer ball too? ;)
Kerry values life, his own, and the life of his political career.
"Let's see. After she opens a charge at Wal-Mart, enrolls in Divinity School, and gets a lifetime membership in the John Birch Society, she'll need to get a shopper's card at Sam's Club, and schedule daily morning prayer services in her Senate office."
Hillary was actually once on the Walmart Board of Directors...
Hillbilly,
Do you reply to questions or not? I posed a few to you earlier.
Also, why do you want to paint Catholics in a bad light? What is your point? Since this is a website for conservative viewpoints, why can't you realize that liberalism and conservatism cut across religious lines?
Is there some agenda that you would like to publicly announce?
"The discussion is not about being pro-abortion. The discussion is about how you truly value life. Valuing life is also valuing choice. Valuing life is the exception for the life of a mother or rape or incest, Kerry Said
ROTFL
Thats a good quote -- *almost* as good as his "I actually lost the election by the least compartitive amount by a democratic canidate when runnining against an incumbant at a time of war, and if you look at 5 of the battleground states and give me 2% more votes, I actually won the popular vote" on MeetThePress last week
I'm starting to believe that he's descended from a race of Vulcans, rather than Frenchmen.
-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)
Simply stated, rampant liberalism, and its associated beliefs are diametrically contrary to Biblical principles and is precisely un-Christian. Any leftists who live by that creed are promoting sin. Examples: homosexual marriage, promiscuity, abortion, socialism etc etc
No way.... Vulcans are logical.
:)
-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)
Someone forgot to put [barf alert] in the title.
I'm glad I read this article on an empty stomach.
SATAN Personified
John F. Kerry gives CPR to a dead Hamster yet votes NO 6 times to BAN Partial Birth Abortion!!! Tries to save a Rodent and allows the slaughter of human beings created in God's image. What does that tell you about his Character?
"had also dived off a dock to save a hamster named Licorice from what the elder sister, Alexandra, called "a watery doom," even administering CPR."
Kerry cited in Catholic heresy case
MEDIA SUING TO OPEN KERRY'S SEALED DIVORCE PAPERS
Kerry Wrong for Catholics.com -- CATHOLIC ISSUES OVERVIEW by the RNC
[3 Bishops Thwack Kerry] Worthy to Receive the Lamb
"Catholic University" bans pro-abortion speakers and from a few Bishops to Catholic Politicians and to the Catholic Faithful: Vote Pro Life or Else!!
Catholic Vote Will Decide Election
Bishop Gracida explains why pro-abortion Catholics must be excommunicated
113 Things Planned Parenthood Hates About President Bush
The Catholics for Bush website is now live!
More Bias and spin in the many newspaper articles to protect the liberal democrat. Kerry provided NO evidence of an annulment and he was married to Heinz, his second wife worth Billions, in the back yard of a home on Martha's Vineyard which is not ordinarily allowed for Catholics and there is also NO evidence of any RC priest who married them.
I wish the reporters would question him for the truth. Dream on.
Teresa on the Stump, Teresa Heinz Kerry, from Mozambique, PRO-ABORTION Catholic, UN Employee, etc.
Teresa Heinz Kerry, Drummond Pike and the Communist TIDES FOUNDATION
The Bible and homosexuality [Kerry thinks the bible is for homosexuality]
Kerrys Dirty Deeds (How, pray tell, do they comport with religious belief
Vatican Worries About Kerry John Kerry and Unborn Victims
Catholic Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual
Catholic and 100% Pro Abortion
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life
Living the Gospel of Life:
A Challenge to American Catholics
A Statement by the Catholic Bishops of the United States
Faithful Citizenship:
Civic Responsibility for a New Millennium
Canon Law and Abortion
Sign Petition: To Excommunicate Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians
The Gospel of Life--Evangelium Vitae
Herod's Heroes, Sign Petition
Kerry, Candidate and Catholic, Creates Uneasiness for Church
A Primer on Canon 915 Can. 915 Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to holy communion
Excommunicate Kerry Website Catholics Against Kerry
1400 Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, "have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders." It is for this reason that Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible for the Catholic Church. However these ecclesial communities, "when they commemorate the Lord's death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory."
Can. 844 §1. Catholic ministers administer the sacraments licitly to Catholic members of the Christian faithful alone, who likewise receive them licitly from Catholic ministers alone, without prejudice to the prescripts of §§2, 3, and 4 of this canon, and ⇒ can. 861, §2.
Sin to vote for pro-abortion politicians?
By Father Matthew Habiger, OSB
Kerry Will Hold Pro-Abortion Rally Prior to Sunday's Abortion March
Catholic Sen. John "Horseface" Kerry, 100% Pro-Abortion
Catholic Sen. Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy, 100% Pro-Abortion
Methodist Sen. John "Opie" Edwards, 100% Pro-Abortion
NC | John Edwards (D) | Pro | 100% |
MA | Edward Kennedy (D) | Pro | 100% |
MA | John Kerry (D) | Pro | 100% |
Planned Parenthood Applauds Sen. Kerry for Choosing Women's Rights Advocate Edwards as Running Mate
View Video of the Rally with Windows Media
John Kerry (D) John Edwards (D) Edward Kennedy (D
Abortion and excommunication
http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article78.htm
http://www.priestsforlife.org/preaching/never.html
http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/abortio2.htm
http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/02ws/ws020124.htm
Regardless of what you heard as a child, no parish priest or bishop of today can tell the congregation which party to support, and has to be careful when giving any kind of advice involving politics. The backlash from the IRS would be catastrophic.
You asked, "Where were the bishops denouncing skerrys weaselly pronouncement justifying his vote in favor of partial birth abortion?"
Have you ever heard of Archbishop Myers? How about Archbishop Burke? They both took a stand, along with other bishops. Have you ever heard of the Catholic League? They've made their views public. Ever heard of SpiritDaily.com or EWTN.com? Al you have to do is navigate to their sites to see that Catholics have no 'unholy political alliance' with the DNC. Go to Defide.com - a case has been presented to have Kerry excommunicated.
You are not nearly as informed as you think you are, and you have no moral high-ground from which to snipe.
???? I do not know about that -which protestants do you talk about -are you simply asserting a specific group of protestants?
Protestants are all Christians other than Catholics who assent to the Magisterium. If one sets aside the teachings of the Catholic Church they set themself outside the Catholic Church e.g. Luther -therefore the pseudo 'Catholics' you bemoan are actually protestants...
The 'true' Catholics you supposedly like are here on FR...
These bible brick cessions I run across here on FR are just plain ignorant because each group just does not know how much alike they really are. SO Stop it!!!
Anyone even modestly informed about the issue will know that this dog won't hunt. After turning handsprings for Roe v. Wade for three tragic decades, there's no way the 'Rats can "re-invent" themselves on this issue, try as they might. Only the most gullible will buy into this latest charade.
I remember some of the pundits doing postmortem on the 'Rats after the last election and the issue of "talking values" came up. The pro-'Rat pundits (which was most of them) were near-unanimous in their advice: the 'Rat candidates needed to learn how to "speak the language" about moral values. The conservative commentator blew them away with one comment: instead of just talking about morals and values, the 'Rats would be better served if they had some.
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