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Abortion is Pro-Life Suggests Kerry in Latest Democrat Parody of Pro-Life Language
Life Site ^ | February 4, 2005

Posted on 02/06/2005 6:16:36 AM PST by NYer

NEW YORK, February 4, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Last week pro-lifers reacted with disdain when Hillary Clinton belatedly attempted to modify, at least in the public eye, her militant support for abortion. She failed to impress with her sincerity when she called abortion a ‘tragic choice’ for women and suggested abortifacient contraceptives as a solution. Exit polls showing voter interest in moral issues has shaken Democrat confidence in their leftist social agenda.

This week, former presidential candidate John Kerry, still calling himself a Catholic, followed the new Democratic Party policy in attempting to use pro-life language to continue pushing their agenda of unrestricted abortion. Kerry claims that the Democrats “have talked about this for a long period of time.”

Kerry’s remarks came in an interview on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’. “The discussion is not about being pro-abortion. The discussion is about how you truly value life. Valuing life is also valuing choice. Valuing life is the exception for the life of a mother or rape or incest,” he said.

“Can anyone make out what he is trying to say?” said Samantha Singson a spokesperson for Canada’s Campaign Life Coalition. “These people are just proving with every word that they don’t have even the concept of a moral framework. They cannot even convincingly pretend to be moral people. I think they should stop trying before they embarrass themselves further,” she said.

Singson said the incident reminded her of a quote from the famed Star Trek character Mr. Spock who said, "a civilized man can pretend to be a barbarian, but no barbarian can pretend to be a civilized man.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; amoral; broomhitlery; flipfloppers; hillaryclinton; ichabodcrane; johnkerry; kerry; lostdems; lurch; naral; newnazis; prolife; unfitforleadership
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To: txzman

These people are doing their best to muddy the water about where it is they stand on this topic.


41 posted on 02/06/2005 10:38:04 AM PST by trubluolyguy ("I like you, therefore when I rule the world, your death shall be quick and painless")
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To: Liz

#23 - love your graphics!!

Ah hows about a soccer ball too? ;)


42 posted on 02/06/2005 10:38:43 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: NYer

Kerry values life, his own, and the life of his political career.


43 posted on 02/06/2005 10:40:30 AM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: NYer
Valuing life is the exception for the life of a mother or rape or incest,” he said.

Paraphrased: "Valuing life is killing an innocent baby for the crimes of an adult."
44 posted on 02/06/2005 10:52:03 AM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: Liz

"Let's see. After she opens a charge at Wal-Mart, enrolls in Divinity School, and gets a lifetime membership in the John Birch Society, she'll need to get a shopper's card at Sam's Club, and schedule daily morning prayer services in her Senate office."

Hillary was actually once on the Walmart Board of Directors...


45 posted on 02/06/2005 10:55:52 AM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: DBeers
Your correct in your conclusion, not your in your premise. The Protestants vote far more morally then the Catholics, even the Mormons went for the pro-life candidate, Bush got his biggest majorities in Utah, and the Protestant Bible belt. He lost big in the most heavily Catholic state, Rode Island. and other northern states with heavy Catholic concentrations.
46 posted on 02/06/2005 11:07:41 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

Hillbilly,

Do you reply to questions or not? I posed a few to you earlier.

Also, why do you want to paint Catholics in a bad light? What is your point? Since this is a website for conservative viewpoints, why can't you realize that liberalism and conservatism cut across religious lines?

Is there some agenda that you would like to publicly announce?


47 posted on 02/06/2005 11:18:47 AM PST by Erie Surfer
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To: NYer

"“The discussion is not about being pro-abortion. The discussion is about how you truly value life. Valuing life is also valuing choice. Valuing life is the exception for the life of a mother or rape or incest,” Kerry Said

ROTFL

Thats a good quote -- *almost* as good as his "I actually lost the election by the least compartitive amount by a democratic canidate when runnining against an incumbant at a time of war, and if you look at 5 of the battleground states and give me 2% more votes, I actually won the popular vote" on MeetThePress last week


48 posted on 02/06/2005 11:22:15 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (2)
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To: Sacajaweau; SampleMan; Liz; Jim Noble; NYer; aspiring.hillbilly; Unam Sanctam; adam_az; frogman; ...
I think the analogy drawn between John Kerry and Spock is more apt than anyone realizes.

I'm starting to believe that he's descended from a race of Vulcans, rather than Frenchmen.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

49 posted on 02/06/2005 11:24:42 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Erie Surfer
The Catholic church has always been joined at the hip with the demoncraps in an unholy alliance throughout the last 100 plus years. I remember when i was a kid hearing the parish priest tell the congregation to "vote demacratic' As late as the 1950's that wasn't a moral issue since the radical leftist baby killers were not in existence. Neither were the gay marriage wonks and other assorted moral trash purveyors.
However the lefties and the demoncraps are now one and the same, and the church hierarchy got infiltrated by fellow traveler left wing activists so this unholy political alliance continues which trumps the moral stands that the church claims to have. The people who profess the Catholic faith should rise up in righteous anger over this. Where were the bishops denouncing skerrys weaselly pronouncement justifying his vote in favor of partial birth abortion? The bosses of the Catholic Church were deathly silent. This is moral malpractice. They ought to be replaced by people who will take a stand for the unborn.
50 posted on 02/06/2005 11:28:29 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: Erie Surfer

Simply stated, rampant liberalism, and its associated beliefs are diametrically contrary to Biblical principles and is precisely un-Christian. Any leftists who live by that creed are promoting sin. Examples: homosexual marriage, promiscuity, abortion, socialism etc etc


51 posted on 02/06/2005 11:34:45 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

No way.... Vulcans are logical.


52 posted on 02/06/2005 11:40:34 AM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: adam_az
You have a point, there.

:)

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

53 posted on 02/06/2005 12:36:20 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: NYer; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

Someone forgot to put [barf alert] in the title.

I'm glad I read this article on an empty stomach.


54 posted on 02/06/2005 12:42:10 PM PST by Coleus (Oppose Amnesty for Illegal Aliens http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1335643/posts)
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SATAN  Personified

John F. Kerry gives CPR to a dead Hamster yet votes NO 6 times to BAN Partial Birth Abortion!!! Tries to save a Rodent and allows the slaughter of human beings created in God's image.  What does that tell you about his Character?

"had also dived off a dock to save a hamster named Licorice from what the elder sister, Alexandra, called "a watery doom," even administering CPR."

Lucifer, The First Liberal

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More Bias and spin in the many newspaper articles to protect the liberal democrat. Kerry provided NO evidence of an annulment and he was married to Heinz, his second wife worth Billions,  in the back yard of a home on Martha's Vineyard which is not ordinarily allowed for Catholics and there is also NO evidence of any RC priest who married them.

I wish the reporters would question him for the truth. Dream on.

Teresa on the Stump, Teresa Heinz Kerry, from Mozambique, PRO-ABORTION Catholic, UN Employee, etc.

Teresa Heinz Kerry, Drummond Pike and the Communist TIDES FOUNDATION

The Bible and homosexuality [Kerry thinks the bible is for homosexuality]

Kerry’s Dirty Deeds (How, pray tell, do they comport with religious belief

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Catholic Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual

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Can.  844 §1. Catholic ministers administer the sacraments licitly to Catholic members of the Christian faithful alone, who likewise receive them licitly from Catholic ministers alone, without prejudice to the prescripts of §§2, 3, and 4 of this canon, and ⇒ can. 861, §2.

Sin to vote for pro-abortion politicians?
By Father Matthew Habiger, OSB

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Catholic Sen. John "Horseface" Kerry, 100% Pro-Abortion

Catholic Sen. Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy, 100% Pro-Abortion

Methodist Sen. John "Opie" Edwards, 100% Pro-Abortion

NC John Edwards (D) Pro 100%
MA Edward Kennedy (D) Pro 100%
MA John Kerry (D) Pro 100% 

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Abortion and excommunication
http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article78.htm
http://www.priestsforlife.org/preaching/never.html
http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/abortio2.htm
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56 posted on 02/06/2005 12:45:37 PM PST by Coleus (Oppose Amnesty for Illegal Aliens http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1335643/posts)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

Regardless of what you heard as a child, no parish priest or bishop of today can tell the congregation which party to support, and has to be careful when giving any kind of advice involving politics. The backlash from the IRS would be catastrophic.

You asked, "Where were the bishops denouncing skerrys weaselly pronouncement justifying his vote in favor of partial birth abortion?"

Have you ever heard of Archbishop Myers? How about Archbishop Burke? They both took a stand, along with other bishops. Have you ever heard of the Catholic League? They've made their views public. Ever heard of SpiritDaily.com or EWTN.com? Al you have to do is navigate to their sites to see that Catholics have no 'unholy political alliance' with the DNC. Go to Defide.com - a case has been presented to have Kerry excommunicated.

You are not nearly as informed as you think you are, and you have no moral high-ground from which to snipe.


57 posted on 02/06/2005 12:50:24 PM PST by Erie Surfer
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
The Protestants vote far more morally then the Catholics

???? I do not know about that -which protestants do you talk about -are you simply asserting a specific group of protestants?

Protestants are all Christians other than Catholics who assent to the Magisterium. If one sets aside the teachings of the Catholic Church they set themself outside the Catholic Church e.g. Luther -therefore the pseudo 'Catholics' you bemoan are actually protestants...

The 'true' Catholics you supposedly like are here on FR...

58 posted on 02/06/2005 12:56:12 PM PST by DBeers
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To: All
OK..here we go again. Coming from a family of half Protestants and half Catholics I can tell you there is very little difference in the "moral" standing of either group. Some of the Catholics I know attend church regularly, pray frequently and live a generally disciplined life. Some are the exact opposite and some are somewhere in between. The same goes for the Protestants...they are all across the board on what counts.

These bible brick cessions I run across here on FR are just plain ignorant because each group just does not know how much alike they really are. SO Stop it!!!

59 posted on 02/06/2005 1:12:35 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: NYer
Kerry’s remarks came in an interview on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’. “The discussion is not about being pro-abortion. The discussion is about how you truly value life. Valuing life is also valuing choice. Valuing life is the exception for the life of a mother or rape or incest,” he said.

Anyone even modestly informed about the issue will know that this dog won't hunt. After turning handsprings for Roe v. Wade for three tragic decades, there's no way the 'Rats can "re-invent" themselves on this issue, try as they might. Only the most gullible will buy into this latest charade.

I remember some of the pundits doing postmortem on the 'Rats after the last election and the issue of "talking values" came up. The pro-'Rat pundits (which was most of them) were near-unanimous in their advice: the 'Rat candidates needed to learn how to "speak the language" about moral values. The conservative commentator blew them away with one comment: instead of just talking about morals and values, the 'Rats would be better served if they had some.

60 posted on 02/06/2005 1:13:43 PM PST by chimera
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