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Kerry cited in Catholic heresy case
Washington Times ^ | 7/1/04 | Julia Duin

Posted on 07/01/2004 4:22:11 AM PDT by Elkiejg

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:42:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A Catholic lawyer has filed heresy charges against Sen. John Kerry with the Archdiocese of Boston, accusing the Democratic presidential candidate of bringing "most serious scandal to the American public" by receiving Holy Communion as a pro-choice Catholic.

The 18-page document was sent to the archdiocese June 14, but released to the public only yesterday by Marc Balestrieri, a Los Angeles-based canon lawyer and an assistant judge with the Archdiocese of Los Angeles' tribunal, an ecclesiastical court.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; kerry
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The problem with this suit is that it well may get Kerry votes from the non-christian Americans AND cast him in the "victim" role.
1 posted on 07/01/2004 4:22:11 AM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: dubyaismypresident; hobbes1; secret garden

HAH! this is great.


2 posted on 07/01/2004 4:24:36 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Elkiejg

Maybe. That could happen. But, it is far more important for the Church to uphold its belief than pander to any political consideration.


3 posted on 07/01/2004 4:26:43 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Vote Kerry if you want to commit national suicide)
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To: Elkiejg

Kerry already has the non-Christian vote.


4 posted on 07/01/2004 4:28:09 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Elkiejg

bump for later


5 posted on 07/01/2004 4:28:10 AM PDT by The Mayor (The race of life is run by faith and won by grace.)
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To: Elkiejg

Excellent - time to fight back!


6 posted on 07/01/2004 4:31:12 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: ought-six
Kerry already has the non-Christian vote.

You are absolutely correct!!!!

7 posted on 07/01/2004 4:31:59 AM PDT by Elkiejg (Clintons and Democrats have ruined America)
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To: OpusatFR

I remember controversy in New York about some heretical art being displayed. The local liberals got themselves in a real knot because they forgot what a high percentage of their constituency were Irish, Italian or Hispanic - Catholics. Kind of reality check time.


8 posted on 07/01/2004 4:32:54 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Elkiejg
Why would I believe the church has any intention of following its own rules on this?

I believe there were (are) rules against priests buggering young boys, and the church swept THAT under the rug for years.

Maybe they can't exactly sweep this under the rug, but they can pooh-pooh it and debate it, and argue it, and the next thing you know, it's 2013...

9 posted on 07/01/2004 4:34:24 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Elkiejg
Kerry cited in Catholic heresy case


Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear, surprise and ruthless efficiency...get the comfy chair...

Regards, Ivan

10 posted on 07/01/2004 4:36:46 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: Elkiejg

I thought only Demoncrats used the court system to win their argument. Finally conservatives are learning to use the levers of justice. Don't you love it?


11 posted on 07/01/2004 4:40:06 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls - Proof that when the Main Stream Media wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: AndyJackson

It keeps the issue alive. Just like last Sunday after Mass, we registered church-going Catholics for the November 2,2004 election.


12 posted on 07/01/2004 4:40:18 AM PDT by ardara
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To: Elkiejg

I wonder how many votes this will get for Kerry.


13 posted on 07/01/2004 4:41:56 AM PDT by tkathy (nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
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To: Elkiejg

I am confused by the Kerry:Church equation. Did he or did he not get a church annulment? He refuses to say, or cannot prove it. If he married his first wife in church, and if both he and his first wife were baptized, then he could not marry again w/o a church annulment. If he did so, he is a fallen-away Catholic. But he's just not going to tell us where he stands.

HE IS NOT BEING HONEST WITH THE VOTERS.

As far as religion/politics are concerned, Kerry has placed the church in an awkward position. The church will not want to make a martyr of him which could get him sympathy votes. Perhaps the longer view taken by the church is to get a religious, non-abortion president re-elected.


14 posted on 07/01/2004 4:46:32 AM PDT by kitkat ("The democrats would rather win the WH than the war." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Elkiejg; seamole

seamole ping, sounds interesting.


15 posted on 07/01/2004 5:02:46 AM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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To: xsmommy

Hoo boy, here we go.


16 posted on 07/01/2004 5:05:33 AM PDT by secret garden (If geopolitics is the Super Bowl, Mr. Clinton is Janet Jackson, complete with wardrobe malfunctions.)
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To: xsmommy
Well, once again, it all comes down to the prostitution of his ostensible Catholic ethnicity, rather than anything he may or may not believe.

I hate to be the realist, but there are no winners in this.

Kerry is a loser, regardless of this situation.

Those controlling the Church, who are bad enough for letting 31 years lapse, and doing nothing, will only cause the Church to look poor publicly, no matter what they do.

If they take the correct action, the public vilification from the secularists will be bad.

If they are restrained, or hold out, then truer damage is done.

And both of those actions are reflected upon the laity as well. Which is all the more reason to condemn the original loser in the first place. As much as I have an issue with the Princes of the Church for not dealing with the life issue more forcefully, for all these years, what amount of intelligence, and prudence would it have taken for any one of them to pull that a$$h*le aside, and warn him off of the Public prostitution of his ETHNICITY (he obviously has no faith) in trolling for votes?

18 posted on 07/01/2004 5:20:06 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Elkiejg
The charges must be filed in the diocese where Mr. Kerry lives. If the Archdiocese of Boston rejects the case, Mr. Balestrieri can appeal it to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in Rome.

Ratzinger is as conservative in faith as a Cardinal can be. Even if it gets debated for years, He will make sure the faith stays strong.

19 posted on 07/01/2004 5:24:57 AM PDT by doc30
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To: Elkiejg

I, for one, would like to see this happen. I would like to see the Catholic Church stand up for itself and it's beliefs. We are told from birth to stand up for our beliefs and values and it's time for the Catholic Church to follow its own advice. Either this is important or it's not, no grey area, no middle ground. Stand up for what you believe or sit down, shut up and keep your values and your morals to yourself. If you are luke warm, I will spit thee out.


20 posted on 07/01/2004 5:27:02 AM PDT by GBA
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