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The coolest spy plane ever built, SR-71.
Various ^ | 2-5-05

Posted on 02/05/2005 3:15:15 PM PST by Indy Pendance

Edited on 02/05/2005 3:17:49 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

The coolest spy plane ever built, SR-71. I was watching Modern Marvels on the History channel last night. This aircraft broke all kinds of international speed and altitude records which still have not been beaten today. It was nothing for them to fly at 80,000 feet and it was a piece of cake to fly at about mach 3, or about 2100 mph. For those of you old enough, remember the sonic boom days? About 750 miles would create a sonic boom, or a doppler effect.

Here's the question, this plane was so fast, it was faster than the earth's rotation. What would happen with time over a long sustainable period of flying time? If it goes faster than the earth's rotation long enough, will it be ahead of time when it lands, or likewise in the opposite direction, will it go back in time. Do you think Einstein has an answer? Saturday night ponderings.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: flight; miltech; speedofsoundx5; spyplane; sr71
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To: Indy Pendance
This aircraft broke all kinds of international speed and altitude records which still have not been beaten today.

Uh, not that we are publically admitting to. Would not bet that they have haven't been broken in a classified way....
161 posted on 02/05/2005 4:52:18 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Indy Pendance
From a physics perspective, no appreciable "time travel" would occur when a craft travels somewhat faster than the Earth's rotational velocity (note: most orbital craft do this.)

However, from a "civil time" perspective, a nominal form of "time travel" occurs whenever one crosses the international date line. But this form of "time travel" is simply a function of the relabelling of timepoints according to civil rules governing timezones and dates, not actual "time travel" as measured by an atomic clock.

162 posted on 02/05/2005 4:52:51 PM PST by sourcery (This is your country. This is your country under socialism. Any questions? Just say no to Socialism!)
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To: Indy Pendance

From what I understand the Aurora has taken the place of the SR-71, but its still all classified, and the plane "Does not in fact" exist. All the public has to go by is puffs of smoke, a contrail of sorts we beleive came from what is called a "pulse wave detonation" propulsion system. You can probably find out more inforation if you Google it.


163 posted on 02/05/2005 4:54:15 PM PST by wingsof liberty (Marines - the few, the proud, the best!!)
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To: delacoert

No dear, I'm just being a FReeper.


164 posted on 02/05/2005 4:54:42 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Fred Hayek

What about Freiden calculators?


165 posted on 02/05/2005 4:55:36 PM PST by Paladin2 (SeeBS News - We Decide, We Create, We Report - In that order! - ABC - Already Been Caught)
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To: injin

Cool! Tell you pop there are folks out there today that admire his work!


166 posted on 02/05/2005 4:56:27 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
Yes, but 140 and 54 fit well together.

"Uma, meet Oprah. Oprah, Uma." Bombed when Letterman did it, too.
167 posted on 02/05/2005 4:56:30 PM PST by Connie Cardullo
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To: injin

my Daddy helped design and build this aircraft .

Did your dad work at the Skunk works?

http://home.insight.rr.com/skunkworks/


168 posted on 02/05/2005 4:57:15 PM PST by Milly (An Aggie and SMU mom)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Seriously, the USA rocks!


169 posted on 02/05/2005 4:57:40 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: ErnBatavia

No, I didn't read that you lost your luggage. Sorry.


170 posted on 02/05/2005 4:58:48 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: rs79bm

Just think, I didn't charge you for this. Life could be worse. LOL!


171 posted on 02/05/2005 4:59:51 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: xjcsa

I was wrong in that statement, said so early on.


172 posted on 02/05/2005 5:00:43 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

lol


173 posted on 02/05/2005 5:01:14 PM PST by Connie Cardullo
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To: commish

I thought the YF-12 was the proposed fighter derivitive of what ended up as the SR-71. The thing I remember about that plane was that, first, it was faster than bullets, literally, so they couldn't arm it with guns. Therefore they came up with a missle specifically for it's use. Though they dropped the fighter variant, they kept the missle for other planes and dubbed it the Phoenix.

A couple of folks who should know have told me that's wrong. A couple who should know have told me that's the way it was. It still gets the point across about the planes speed.

I saw the SR-71 in person in what I understand to be one of the first times it was shown to the public. We were visiting a friend at Travis AFB who was waiting for a MAC flight to his home in Hawaii. He was retired due to injuries in Vietnam and could fly free, but he was waiting for weeks because it was in the middle of the PATCO strike, so anyone who could fly MAC was and a retired Marine grunt was WAY down the list. They had an airshow up a Travis so we used the excuse to go spend time with him ("meet me under the wing of the B-52" were his instructions). That would have been in 1981.

They had the SR71 on display but kept the public about 30 feet away, behind ropes, with armed guards around it. The pilot (I think a Colonel) was at the rope line talking to the public. When asked how fast the plane could fly he told a story "he had heard, but couldn't vouch for." There is an internationally accepted speed record for aircraft set from a fixed point in international waters off of England to a fixed point off of New York. A Russian Mig was flying that route to set the record and prove the superiority of Soviet airplanes. About halfway across the Atlantic an SR-71 sidled up along side the Mig, the American pilot waved at his Russian counterpart, smiled and waved, then hit the afterburners. The SR-71 left the Mig far behind. The Russian turned around and went home at that point.

I bet the story is apocryphal, but I love it.


174 posted on 02/05/2005 5:01:44 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Indy Pendance
I remember something to the effect of (and I am paraphrasing) "You have not been lost until you have been lost at Mach 3."
175 posted on 02/05/2005 5:01:48 PM PST by Veloxherc (To go up pull back, to go down pull back all the way.)
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To: Connie Cardullo

"There is talent and knowledge here."

No kidding. FR is amazing.


176 posted on 02/05/2005 5:02:35 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I was really waiting for a feasible answer!


177 posted on 02/05/2005 5:04:10 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: cynicom

So, if he walked in circles long enough, what would happen?


178 posted on 02/05/2005 5:04:59 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
No dear, I'm just being a FReeper.

Hmm. Not enough rankor for 100% FReep though. ;)

179 posted on 02/05/2005 5:05:26 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Hey Man,

There is a SR at the Cosmosphere in Hutchinson, KS. Truly beautiful!

MFO


180 posted on 02/05/2005 5:05:30 PM PST by Man from Oz
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