Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21

SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

[hedgetrimmer]

Just because I believe in the supremacy of the US Constitution, it doesn't mean that those in Congress do.

I can give you more than one example, but take a look at Sam Farr. He believes in the supremacy of the UN and his voting record shows it.

So tell me again how the actions of others to hurt US sovereignty contradicts my opinion about the US Constitution?

[FreeReign]

A treaty is a contract! Get your head out of the dirt. Start thinking again.

I tell you what. Me and some other guy are going to enter into a contract. In that contract we're going to enter your name with obligation that you must keep.

Question: Is that contract valid?

Answer: A contract that signs away ones unalienable rights without ones permission is as meaningless as dirt.

[Paul_Denton]

Yep, I am one of those. It irked me no end to find out that the Liberty Bell is now under the ownership of the UN.

Is it really?

[hedgetrimmer]

Tell me,

If Congress signs an agreement that creates a supranational body to take over a constitutionally specified responsibility of Congress, does that hurt US sovereignty?

And if that agreement with other nations gives them the ability to impose sanctions on us or levy fines, where they did not have that ability previously?

[Indie]

I think this is a bunch of kook conspiracy theory stuff.

Yeah? Well how do YOU know unless YOU read it and do the research for yourself? Dismissing things out of hand before researching them is ignorant at best, and dangerous at worst.

Thanks for the ping all4one!

[hedgetrimmer]

Independence Hall is a world heritage site

[Purrcival]

I agree with you 100% on that. One of the reasons that some leaders in other countries hate our President is becuase he has the courage to do what he believes is right for our nation, whether or not it pleases these other world leaders who are trying to manipulate and undermine us. He understands what his first priority is. I have no doubt that if John Kerry had been elected, their attempts would have been a whole lot easier.

[hedgetrimmer]

Hon. Don Young, Chairman, House Resources Committee, Washington, DC.

Dear Mr. Chairman: The American Sheep Industry Association (ASI), the National Cattlemen's Beef Association (NCBA) and the American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF) representing 4.5 million members, wish to express their support for your American Land Sovereignty Protection Act (H.R. 3752).

As you are aware, the Department of the Interior presently operates the Man & Biosphere Program on Biosphere Reserves without legislative direction and no authorization from Congress. Furthermore, the 1995 designations of Glacier National Park and the Carlsbad Caverns as World Heritage sites, and the 1989 designation of Yellowstone National Park as a Biosphere Reserve were made with no public or Congressional input. Your bill makes available a process in which we can begin to correct these problems.

The operational guidelines for both World Heritage sites and Biosphere Reserves require the establishment of a buffer zone near or around designated areas. In many areas, the establishment of buffer zones conflicts with the property rights of both the individual and the state. ASI, NCBA and AFBF policies support the language of your bill that compels Congress to consider the implications of international designations on these rights before the designations are made.

The undersigned organizations stand with you and other members of Congress in support of the American Land Sovereignty Protection Act and thank you for your efforts in support of fairness to land owners.

AMERICAN FARM BUREAU FEDERATION.

AMERICAN SHEEP INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION.

NATIONAL CATTLEMEN'S BEEF ASSOCIATION.

[hedgetrimmer]

Mrs. CHENOWETH. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Alaska for yielding this time to me.

Mr. Speaker, I find it very interesting how the debate deteriorates when people do not have the facts at hand, and we are not debating about black helicopters and paranoid people and extremists. We are debating about this issue, which is, who should control the land mass in the United States? Should not the Congress have a say in whether the U.N. comes in certain instances and controls certain areas? That is the simple question. There is nothing in here about blue helmets or anything like that.

I stand today in strong support of H.R. 3752, the American Land Sovereignty Protection Act of 1996, and I commend the chairman of the Committee on Resources, Mr. Young, for introducing and moving this bill. It has to be part of the debate, and I hope we can stick to the facts.

H.R. 3752 will establish a simple process of due process, and will reestablish the role of Congress where it should be in the first place, as the ultimate decision-maker who manages the lands of the United States and who should maintain sovereign control of the lands in the United States of America.

There are two types of land designations of international status by the United Nations currently taking place with no congressional approval. That is wrong, Mr. Speaker. There are biosphere reserves carried out by the United Nations environmental, sociological and cultural organizations, and World Heritage sites which are sponsored by the U.N.-backed World Heritage Committee.

Mr. Speaker, more than 51 million acres in this country has already been designated by the U.N., with the agency's consent, without congressional consent, as either World Heritage sites or biosphere reserves. That is 51 million acres of U.S. soil, an area nearly the size if the whole State of Colorado, that the U.N. has taken control of without congressional involvement and legitimate public participation.

A biosphere reserve is a federally zoned and coordinated region consisting of three areas or zones that meet certain minimum requirements established by the United Nations. The inner or most protected area, the core zone, are usually Federal lands, whereas the outer zones are not-Federal lands. That is either private property or State property.

Mr. Speaker, currently 10 Federal agencies involved in the biosphere reserve are competing for turf with each other. This is occurring despite the fact that the United States withdrew their participation from UNESCO in 1984 because of gross financial mismanagement, and Congress has never, not once, ratified the Biodiversity Treaty which calls for these biosphere reserve designations.

When the Committee on Resources held hearings on this bill, we heard testimony from private property owners and local officials all around the country who felt that their role in the land management process had been significantly diminished by these designations. Many of these people did not even know their own property or their city or country's property, and State property, and surrounding lands were involved in this particular designation until final decisions were made.

Mr. Speaker, when laws and processes established by the Congress to manage our resources are bypassed by the agencies and by the executive, not only does this create an atmosphere of secrecy and confusion, but it violates our very sovereignty. What we are doing in this bill is saying, let us open up the process to the light of day, instead of such a secretive process as we have seen with the impact of the World Heritage site. That includes a large buffer zone surrounding Yellowstone Park.

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Can you explain why President Bush is willing to sign up to L.O.S.T.?

Have you read where the UN will have the authority to award contracts and set a price on those contracts in Americans waters.
That according to L.O.S.T. that a United Nations agency called the Seabed Authority would take outright control of over 70% of the earths surface and natural resources.

Condi spoke on this at her confirmation hearing last week, she agreed with it, as does Bush.

The Seaboard Authority would be organized according to the General assembly model; one nation---one vote and thus give an organized block of third world nations hostile to the U.S. power to impose taxes.

Reagan refused to sign it.

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[FreeReign]

If Congress signs an agreement that creates a supranational body to take over a constitutionally specified responsibility of Congress, does that hurt US sovereignty?

It would be unconstitutional if Congress passed such a law.

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H.R. 3752 will establish a simple process of due process, and will reestablish the role of Congress where it should be in the first place, as the ultimate decision-maker who manages the lands of the United States and who should maintain sovereign control of the lands in the United States of America.

I cannot believe that this had to actually be said about who controls America....The UN.....or Americans.

That statement in and of itself should send shivers up and down Americans spines.

[hedgetrimmer]

Ever heard of GATT and the WTO?

[hedgetrimmer]

Unfortunately the bill did not pass.

[Purrcival]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with L.O.S.T. Will have to read up on it. Thanks for the heads-up.

[FreeReign]

Ever heard of GATT and the WTO?

Ever hear that Congress passed the specifics GATT and WTO and the president signed the specifics of GATT and WTO into law?

Our sovereignty remains what it was.

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You're welcome. It's here on this thread somewhere. Along with President Bush's approval.

I love that man, but this treaty is one of the worse things to come up the pike in quiet awhile.

[The SISU kid]

Bump for book mark & later read

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Just damn.......

[FreeReign]

I cannot believe that this had to actually be said about who controls America....

HR3752 is redundant. See U.S. Constitution.