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Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

Panicked Evolutionists: The Stephen Meyer Controversy

The theory of evolution is a tottering house of ideological cards that is more about cherished mythology than honest intellectual endeavor. Evolutionists treat their cherished theory like a fragile object of veneration and worship--and so it is. Panic is a sure sign of intellectual insecurity, and evolutionists have every reason to be insecure, for their theory is falling apart.

The latest evidence of this panic comes in a controversy that followed a highly specialized article published in an even more specialized scientific journal. Stephen C. Meyer, Director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, wrote an article accepted for publication in Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. The article, entitled "The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories," was published after three independent judges deemed it worthy and ready for publication. The use of such judges is standard operating procedure among "peer-reviewed" academic journals, and is considered the gold standard for academic publication.

The readership for such a journal is incredibly small, and the Biological Society of Washington does not commonly come to the attention of the nation's journalists and the general public. Nevertheless, soon after Dr. Meyer's article appeared, the self-appointed protectors of Darwinism went into full apoplexy. Internet websites and scientific newsletters came alive with outrage and embarrassment, for Dr. Meyer's article suggested that evolution just might not be the best explanation for the development of life forms. The ensuing controversy was greater than might be expected if Dr. Meyer had argued that the world is flat or that hot is cold.

Eugenie C. Scott, Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education, told The Scientist that Dr. Meyer's article came to her attention when members of the Biological Society of Washington contacted her office. "Many members of the society were stunned about the article," she told The Scientist, and she described the article as "recycled material quite common in the intelligent design community." Dr. Scott, a well known and ardent defender of evolutionary theory, called Dr. Meyer's article "substandard science" and argued that the article should never have been published in any scientific journal.

Within days, the Biological Society of Washington, intimidated by the response of the evolutionary defenders, released a statement apologizing for the publication of the article. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education, the society's governing council claimed that the article "was published without the prior knowledge of the council." The statement went on to declare: "We have met and determined that all of us would have deemed this paper inappropriate for the pages of the Proceedings." The society's president, Roy W. McDiarmid, a scientist at the U.S. Geological Survey, blamed the article's publication on the journal's previous editor, Richard Sternberg, who now serves as a fellow at the National Center for Biotechnology Information at the National Institute of Health. "My conclusion on this," McDiarmid said, "was that it was a really bad judgment call on the editor's part."

What is it about Dr. Stephen Meyer's paper that has caused such an uproar? Meyer, who holds a Ph.D. from Cambridge University, argued in his paper that the contemporary form of evolutionary theory now dominant in the academy, known as "Neo-Darwinism," fails to account for the development of higher life forms and the complexity of living organisms. Pointing to what evolutionists identify as the "Cambrian explosion," Meyer argued that "the geologically sudden appearance of many new animal body plans" cannot be accounted for by Darwinian theory, "neo" or otherwise.

Accepting the scientific claim that the Cambrian explosion took place "about 530 million years ago," Meyer went on to explain that the "remarkable jump in the specified complexity or 'complex specified information' [CSI] of the biological world" cannot be explained by evolutionary theory.

The heart of Dr. Meyer's argument is found in this scientifically-loaded passage: "Neo-Darwinism seeks to explain the origin of new information, form, and structure as a result of selection acting on randomly arising variation at a very low level within the biological hierarchy, mainly, within the genetic text. Yet the major morphological innovations depend on a specificity of arrangement at a much higher level of the organizational hierarchy, a level that DNA alone does not determine. Yet if DNA is not wholly responsible for body plan morphogenesis, then DNA sequences can mutate indefinitely, without regard to realistic probabilistic limits, and still not produce a new body plan. Thus, the mechanism of natural selection acting on random mutations in DNA cannot in principle generate novel body plans, including those that first arose in the Cambrian explosion."

In simpler terms, the mechanism of natural selection, central to evolutionary theory, cannot possibly account for the development of so many varied and complex life forms simply by mutations in DNA. Rather, some conscious design--thus requiring a Designer--is necessary to explain the emergence of these life forms.

In the remainder of his paper, Meyer attacks the intellectual inadequacies of evolutionary theory and argues for what is now known as the "design Hypothesis." As he argued, "Conscious and rational agents have, as a part of their powers of purposive intelligence, the capacity to design information-rich parts and to organize those parts into functional information-rich systems and hierarchies." As he went on to assert, "We know of no other causal entity or process that has this capacity." In other words, the development of the multitude of higher life forms found on the planet can be explained only by the guidance of a rational agent--a Designer--whose plan is evident in the design.

Meyer's article was enough to cause hysteria in the evolutionists' camp. Knowing that their theory lacks intellectual credibility, the evolutionists respond by raising the volume, offering the equivalent of scientific shrieks and screams whenever their cherished theory is criticized--much less in one of their own cherished journals. As Dr. John West, Associate Director of the Discovery Institute explained, "Instead of addressing the paper's argument or inviting counterarguments or rebuttal, the society has resorted to affirming what amounts to a doctrinal statement in an effort to stifle scientific debate. They're trying to stop scientific discussion before it even starts."

When the Biological Society of Washington issued its embarrassing apology for publishing the paper, the organization pledged that arguments for Intelligent Design "will not be addressed in future issues of the Proceedings," regardless of whether the paper passes peer review.

From the perspective of panicked evolutionists, the Intelligent Design movement represents a formidable adversary and a constant irritant. The defenders of Intelligent Design are undermining evolutionary theory at multiple levels, and they refuse to go away. The panicked evolutionists respond with name-calling, labeling Intelligent Design proponents as "creationists," thereby hoping to prevent any scientific debate before it starts.

Intelligent Design is not tantamount to the biblical doctrine of creation. Theologically, Intelligent Design falls far short of requiring any affirmation of the doctrine of creation as revealed in the Bible. Nevertheless, it is a useful and important intellectual tool, and a scientific movement with great promise. The real significance of Intelligent Design theory and its related movement is the success with which it undermines the materialistic and naturalistic worldview central to the theory of evolution.

For the Christian believer, the Bible presents the compelling and authoritative case for God's creation of the cosmos. Specifically, the Bible provides us with the ultimate truth concerning human origins and the special creation of human beings as the creatures made in God's own image. Thus, though we believe in more than Intelligent Design, we certainly do not believe in less. We should celebrate the confusion and consternation now so evident among the evolutionists. Dr. Stephen Meyer's article--and the controversy it has spawned--has caught evolutionary scientists with their intellectual pants down.

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R. Albert Mohler, Jr


TOPICS: Philosophy
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To: bvw
Talking about high odds, why do you think CBS and Dan Rather would ever apologize? A bit creo of you, eh?

1)You have no idea what I am thinking unless you have God's power.

2)Creo? I have no idea what you are talking about.

1,361 posted on 02/01/2005 7:07:20 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Just reading your very own tag line. It says "When will CBS Retract and Apologize?". Perhaps you forgot you had it. Or maybe it evolved on its own.

"Creo" -- the invert polarity to "evo".

1,362 posted on 02/01/2005 7:13:43 PM PST by bvw
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To: RightWingNilla
But where does ‘survival’ exist? This is not a mindless mechanism as required in ‘natural’ science. A snowflake has no survival instinct. Are you saying that there is a difference because something ‘lives’ but was put together in just a different sequence than a snowflake?

Snowflake -> natural mechanisms -> no survival
Organism -> natural mechanisms -> survival -> teleology (unless an organism is not intended to survive)

1,363 posted on 02/01/2005 7:25:00 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: WildTurkey

The post was a ‘mutant’ analogy that was not transferred apparently…


1,364 posted on 02/01/2005 7:30:36 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

Survival = exist


1,365 posted on 02/01/2005 7:32:50 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: RightWingNilla

Tautology...


1,366 posted on 02/01/2005 7:38:02 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander
Tautology...

Its not. The sequences simply exist. They replicate themselves. When one of the daughter sequences undergoes a slight change (error in replication) the competition begins.

1,367 posted on 02/01/2005 7:44:36 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: Heartlander
In a purely random universe* the odds of the information reaching you would be no greater than 1 in 14.550941072021 × 10179 -- and that's a modest approximation where only space and time are randomized. Since the true random odds are infinity divided by one, you can actually make them appear as slight as you wish short of that by introducing additional variables. It's the same game creationists play with information theory and probability statistics.

In keeping with such ID 'logic' (so to speak), clearly the information could only have reached you because God telegrammed it directly to you....

* I'm fairly certain that's what you mean by the incoherent way you're using the term "purely 'natural' environment"..

1,368 posted on 02/01/2005 7:44:37 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Heartlander

PS. And might I add that in a purely random universe the odds of the information reaching you would be no greater whether WildTurkey posted it "accidentally" to balrog666, posted it "correctly" to you, or didn't even post it at all.


1,369 posted on 02/01/2005 7:53:54 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: RightWingNilla
Survival -> fitness -> intelligence -> consciousness -> morality?

Nature invokes all of this?

Nature, you mindless mechanism you… you’re s’no flaky… you got some s’plainin’ to do…

1,370 posted on 02/01/2005 8:01:48 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: PatrickHenry

"Festival of the Vanquished Trolls" memorial placemarker


1,371 posted on 02/01/2005 8:09:20 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Heartlander; PatrickHenry
You are calculating the probability of something that biology has never claimed happened. You are arguing against something that doesn't exist and never has existed.

What?

Here's your problem: You have calculated the probability of getting from A to B. But biology doesn't predict a journey from A to B. Biology just predicts that A will change over time.

You assert how complex an eye or a flagellum is, but biology doesn't assert that eyes and flagella are necessary outcomes of evolution.

You marvel at a bridge hand and calculate the odds of that particular hand being dealt, but no one predicted that hand before it was dealt.

Evolution does not require the evolution of any particular function, yet you look at whatever hand evolution has dealt, and say the odds were impossible.

Patrick Henry has called this retrospective astonishment.

But that is just your first problem. In addition to falsely calculating the odds of some arbitrary instance "specified complexity", you falsely character the steps by which the hand was dealt, claiming it poofed into existence in one swoop, by random action.

You ignore the ratchet of the gambling house, by which, in slow, incremental steps -- occasionally backwards, but by inexorable probability forwards -- the house relieves you of your money.

In the game of life the house keeps its winnings and lets the unfortunate pay for its losings.

1,372 posted on 02/01/2005 8:10:35 PM PST by js1138
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To: neutrality
It's a photo

Good call, but actually it's a jpeg.

1,373 posted on 02/01/2005 8:20:56 PM PST by js1138
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To: Heartlander

The word struggle is unfortunate. I cringe every time I hear it. Some individuals reproduce. Others don't. Individuals struggle, but it is not usually informative to label evolution a struggle.

In any even, it is just a word. If you are into scoring points, you might enjoy catching someone using a colloquial phrase, but it doesn't advance any argument.


1,374 posted on 02/01/2005 8:26:09 PM PST by js1138
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To: AntiGuv
The odds of any specific thing happening can be calculated to approach zero without any mathematical errors and without making any bizarre assumptions.

But it has always seemed futile, to me, to calculate the odds against something that has already happened.

It's sort of like that population curve that was so optimistically foisted on us. Hey, the numbers seem reasonable, but when examined, lead to absurdities. When calculations lead to absurdities, something is wrong with the way the problem was analyzed, and the wrong formula is being used.
1,375 posted on 02/01/2005 8:32:22 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138; Heartlander

Opps! Just realized I had a typo. The "true random odds" of that info reaching Heartlander (or anyone, or no one, or everyone) were one divided by infinity and not the other way around.


1,376 posted on 02/01/2005 8:48:47 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Heartlander
Survival -> fitness -> intelligence -> consciousness -> morality?

Whoooa hold on there tex!

For now the goal is modest - to see how a sequence which undergoes multiple rounds of selection (i.e. tests for survival) can give rise to a molecular machine refined to the point where it appears "designed".

1,377 posted on 02/01/2005 8:50:00 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: js1138; Heartlander
Individuals struggle, but it is not usually informative to label evolution a struggle.

Good point js.

I was trying to rephrase it such a way that is less anthropomorphic, but I guess it wasn't clear.

The sequences simply are. They self-replicate. The ones which are more efficient at this eventually dominate the population.

1,378 posted on 02/01/2005 8:55:54 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: js1138
...the odds against something that has already happened

That would be probablity 1.**720

One could compute ex-ante probablities, but that would lead to 0 as you pointed out.

1,379 posted on 02/01/2005 9:17:19 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: RightWingNilla
"Fittest" is an output, not an input.

Evolutionary Observation 1: Offspring differ from parents.
Evolutionary Observation 2: Scion quantity varies.

Observation 1 happens due to mutations (and recombinations.) This was Darwin's big point. Lamarck had it differently.

Observation 2 happens due to either either "better equipment" or just luck.

1,380 posted on 02/01/2005 9:22:19 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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