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Fossil shows baby dinosaur in mammal's belly
CNN.com Space & Science ^ | 1/13/05 | AP

Posted on 01/16/2005 7:22:34 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature

DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- Villagers digging in China's rich fossil beds have uncovered the preserved remains of a tiny dinosaur in the belly of a mammal, a startling discovery for scientists who have long believed early mammals couldn't possibly attack and eat a dinosaur.

Scientists say the animal's last meal probably is the first proof that mammals hunted small dinosaurs some 130 million years ago. It contradicts conventional evolutionary theory that early mammals were timid, chipmunk-sized creatures that scurried in the looming shadow of the giant reptiles.

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KEYWORDS: archeology; dinosaur; dinosaurs; mammals; zoology
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To: Step_Into_the_Void

"Evolution is a fact and eventually all but religious fanatics will forget creationism. It is only a matter of time until science unravels the natural answers.
If you want to teach the flat earth, keep your kids home and they can work at a fast food joint flipping burgers."

Void, you are the lamest troll I have met on any boards.

Consider this notice that I will not respond to your stupid posts any more, numb-skull.


21 posted on 01/16/2005 8:04:57 PM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: mnehrling

Not sure, but something tells me they had WAY too many preservatives in it. :o)


22 posted on 01/16/2005 8:05:43 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace they better fire their PR guy!)
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To: Step_Into_the_Void

***Evolution is a fact***


Hardly!

Repeat after me, "It's called the THEORY of evolution..."


***eventually all but religious fanatics will forget creationism.***


Marx "prophesied" something similar... and history shoved it down his throat.


23 posted on 01/16/2005 8:13:35 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Step_Into_the_Void

**If you want to teach the flat earth, keep your kids home and they can work at a fast food joint flipping burgers.**

Don't discard homeschooling. It is widely recognized by colleges and universities to be a success.

Standardized test results for 16,000 home educated children, grades K-12, were analyzed in 1994 by researcher Dr. Brian Ray. He found the nationwide grand mean in reading for home schoolers was at the 79th percentile; for language and math, the 73rd percentile. This ranking means home educated students performed better than approximately 77% of the sample population on whom the test was normed. Nearly 80% of home schooled children achieved individual scores above the national average and 54.7% of the 16,000 home schoolers achieved individual scores in the top quarter of the population, more than double the number of conventional school students who score in the top quarter.

Homeschooled students are regularly accepted to all types of universities & colleges, including Ivy League schools. I'll be glad to send you some quotes from admissions officers from these schools about their homeschooled students if you wish. Let me assure you that these students will hardly be "flipping burgers".


24 posted on 01/16/2005 8:19:18 PM PST by AngieGal
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To: Step_Into_the_Void

What makes you think that people who doubt evolution are stupid? Lots of them in top universities and top professions.


25 posted on 01/16/2005 8:22:35 PM PST by guitarist
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

You seem to be correct:
http://www.mathematical.com/dinospsittacosaurus.html


26 posted on 01/16/2005 8:27:23 PM PST by freakboy
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To: K4Harty
I saw this fossil on TV!


27 posted on 01/16/2005 8:29:34 PM PST by SirChas
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To: K4Harty

racoons eat frogs


28 posted on 01/16/2005 8:33:05 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Step_Into_the_Void

Please see post number 8 on this thread...he beat you to it.

(bowing before the all-knowing newbie Void) </sarc>


29 posted on 01/16/2005 8:34:41 PM PST by xjcsa (Everything matters if anything matters at all...)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Repeat after me, "It's called the THEORY of evolution..."

Just Googled "Theory Of" and got 17,200,000 hits. Relativity, Games, Numbers, Probability, you name it.

30 posted on 01/16/2005 8:38:05 PM PST by boojumsnark (Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: mabelkitty
times like these make me laugh at those who mock creationism.

I don't mock creationism, I just follow the logic and the science. If you believe a certain way, I respect you. I may think in a different way, and I expect respect as well. This argument can go on forever. But why get tied up in details? WE all believe.

31 posted on 01/16/2005 8:39:00 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: mabelkitty
times like these make me laugh at those who mock creationism.

I don't mock creationism, I just follow the logic and the science. If you believe a certain way, I respect you. I may think in a different way, and I expect respect as well. This argument can go on forever. But why get tied up in details? WE all believe.

32 posted on 01/16/2005 8:39:00 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: K4Harty

In this case, the mammal was about the size of a large cat, and the victim was a 5-inch "parrot dinosaur."

Now I know I'm superior to a dinosaur. What a whimp it was. Couldn't even protect himself from a stray cat. Ten million years from now they will be discovering a cat with a dead mouse in its stomach and it will be headlines.


33 posted on 01/16/2005 8:40:38 PM PST by taxesareforever (Just can't seem to get enough protection for criminals.)
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To: Step_Into_the_Void

Why do you keep stepping into the void? The only god there is science, and he wont help you.


34 posted on 01/16/2005 8:45:57 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: boojumsnark

I Googled too!

13,000 for "fact of evolution"

662,000 for "theory of evolution"


35 posted on 01/16/2005 8:47:40 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: JFK_Lib

Your post borders on bigotry. I am a scientist and a Christian. My father-in-law was the chief chemist for Standard Oil of Indiana. A brilliant man, he worked for a short time on the Apollo Project for NASA. He said he couldn't find a single atheist in the research lab there in Huntsville. Unlike you, he had an open mind on origins and realized the limitations and assumptions of evolution theory.

In my dinner fellowship group selected randomly from our church, I am the only one of eight without at least a Master's Degree. Many in our church might even claim to the "fanatics" for Jesus. They are not burger-flippers, they design computer chips, create airplanes and in my case forecast weather. I can assure you that there are many on all sides of this issue that can discuss related facts and opinions and present a spirited and intellectual defense of their views on origins, while respecting other perspectives.

The train track that runs from hydrogen gas to JFK_LIB is many miles long and to claim that only those who insist the train ran through all those millions of steps solely by random chance are within the bounds of reason is a position beyond the boundaries of scientific fact and disrespectful of the many scientists of many faiths and opinions who believe evolution does not negate the need for an ultimate Creator.


36 posted on 01/16/2005 8:49:55 PM PST by stratocaster (some people see dark clouds...others see silver linings)
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To: stratocaster; JFK_Lib; Step_Into_the_Void

Step_Into_the_Void,

I think #36 was intended for you rather than JFK_Lib.


37 posted on 01/16/2005 8:57:51 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Step_Into_the_Void
Evolution is a fact....

Right, so that's why the supposed intelligensia on your side call it a "theory?" That is quite an assertion you make. No real scientist of even pedestrian accomplishments would even attempt to make that claim. Evolution is at best merely a premise and a prejudicial construct often used to color or simply ignore scientific evidence, which points in quite a different direction from the core evolutionary premise. Since it's adherants must have the evolutionary premise to support their inherent world-view, regardless of the facts, one cannot conclude that such persons think scientifically in evaluating demonstrable, evidentiary truth.

It is only a matter of time until science unravels the natural answers.

The study of science does that every day. Where have you been? Funny thing is that the more that science unravels, the natural answers reveal that there is considerably less evidence to support the increasingly weakened underlying evolutionary premise. Whether it's Francis Crick asserting his own brand of I.D., or Stephan J. Gould punctuating his evidence-less concept of evolution, the evidence never was in the naturalist's "random acts of self-serving chance" arguments to begin with.

Of course each can now make his silly arguments to his Maker. Jesus Christ and The Apostles and saints will likely sit around with fresh tins of popcorn as they kick back and listen to each of them spout off their humanistic evo-blather, barely attempting to contain their laughter as they did when Plato, Aristotle, and Darwin did their own self-promoting intellectual stand-up comedy routines.

Keep trusting the little god of grey mater between your ears and you will have literally stepped in to the void... or something else equally objectionable that tends to stick to your shoes and your arguments.

If you want to teach the flat earth, keep your kids home and they can work at a fast food joint flipping burgers.

Flat earth? Will you evolutionists bore the studied scientific community with that canard again? Hisorically -- even as the materialistic evolutionist sees his feeble intellect today -- man, his inflated sense of self-importance, and his intellect in past millenia was supposedly the center of the universe, and "flat earth" universal geocentrism was a foundational premise of the Hellenistic evolutionists of some 2000 years ago. It's nothing that biblical Creationists haven't seen at one time or another from your side through the ages. How silly it is for your egos to keep reminding us of your other past failed explanations.

Move along now.

38 posted on 01/16/2005 9:19:05 PM PST by Agamemnon
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To: Sofa King
"The only real discovery here seems to be that they found a new species of mammal that was larger than any other living at the time (although still relatively small, only about 3 feet long). This is hardly evidence against evolution.

It is interesting to have discovered this species of mammal and to learn that it was possible for them to become this large during the era of dinosaurs.

But perhaps it shouldn't really be all that surprising. After all, although often overlooked, the dinosaurs were not the first group of reptiles to dominate the planet. Well before the age of dinosaurs, there was an age of mammals, or more accurately, mammal-like reptiles (sometimes called paramammals). The most famous is the squat four-legged and sail-backed dimetrodon, which was within a group of called the pelycosaurs. Another is the edaphasaurus, which looked very similar but had a sail slanted backward at an angle. This group's heyday was in the Permian and they constituted 70% of the land based forms of animal life.

This does nothing to damage evolutionary theory. This is just the discovery of another intermediate form. All forms are intermediate forms. The shame is that humans will never be able to come close to completing the fossil record, for we can not dig up the entire earth's crust and sift through it. To find anything is a humbling thing, maybe even a gift from God.

39 posted on 01/16/2005 9:51:53 PM PST by ValenB4
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To: Step_Into_the_Void
Then you have to believe beating two rocks together creates life. Try it and get back to me with the results.
40 posted on 01/16/2005 10:00:06 PM PST by Brimack34
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