Posted on 01/11/2005 11:30:36 AM PST by missyme
Actor Mel Gibson held a secret meeting with one of the famous visionaries of Fatima, Sister Lucia of Portugal. Sister Lucia, now 98 years of age, is a cloistered nun who as a child saw and spoke with the Virgin Mary in Fatima, Portugal in 1917.
Her visions and those of her two childhood friends, both since passed away, were both prophetic and apocalyptic. The Catholic Church accepted the visions as authentic.
I think "transfiguration" means to change appearance.
No, see post 149
"Seriously, I mean no disrespect. I had never heard anything regarding Mary ascending to Heaven, however I'm not disputing it. After all, we know it can happen because it happened with Elijah. Interesting. I'm going to have to learn more about this. Thanks!"
That is the most honorable and respectful response by a Protestant to the Assumption of Mary that I have ever read - you should really be commended. I'm really serious. It's great to read.
Didn't Paul Hogan do that? There was a movie about it, I forget the name.
Well said ... :-)
I don't believe what Eve did closed them until the coming of Christ. That would mean that none of the people that lived in the time between Eve and Christ are in Heaven today.
They may have had to go about it in a different way, but many of those people are in Heaven today, as is obvious with Elijah.
I understand, but before there was the Bible as we know it, most of the history (of the Church) at the time of the apostles was carried on by word of mouth (tradition). Even the Gospels were proclaimed orally for a number of years before being written down. The apostles all thought that Jesus would come back to earth before they died, and so they didn't write down what Jesus taught them right away.
Thank you for that considerate reply!
I agree... I think Catholics and Protestants can learn from each other. As a Catholic, I attend protestant bible studies every week and although I do not always agree, I do learn and grow from them.
I'll ditto that!
Well, thank you. I'm not egotistical enough to think that just because I've never heard of something that it isn't true. Mind you, I'm not saying it is true either. I'm just not discounting it until I learn more.
You make Protestants look really bad with your rude comments. My best friend is an evangelical and she NEVER said anything duragatory about my catholic faith. But then.... she had class.
Is that the same as purgatory?
And, I don't have my Bible in front of me right now, but doesn't it say that Elijah was carried off in a chariot to heaven?
Ah, thanks. Once I saw someone, presumably a Catholic, post something like "We don't pray to Mary. We pray *through* her." So that got me wondering.
Exactly - the Church teaches that man was separated from God due to the sin of Adam and Eve. There was no unity between God and man. When the Holy and Just people died. They were not in Heaven - they were in some kind of middle ground. But, when Christ died on the Cross. The Father's love of his Sacrifice was so great that he obtained for us Forgiveness of both the Original Sin of Adam and Eve and any sins that we confess. The Gates of Heaven were opened and all the people that were in that middle area (whatever it was) went to Heaven at that time.
If I've got something wrong please jump in and comment to correct me. I'm a convert to Catholicism and I love discussing the Church. I have a great enthusiasm for conversations such as this. But, I am always willing to learn!
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