Posted on 01/11/2005 11:30:36 AM PST by missyme
Actor Mel Gibson held a secret meeting with one of the famous visionaries of Fatima, Sister Lucia of Portugal. Sister Lucia, now 98 years of age, is a cloistered nun who as a child saw and spoke with the Virgin Mary in Fatima, Portugal in 1917.
Her visions and those of her two childhood friends, both since passed away, were both prophetic and apocalyptic. The Catholic Church accepted the visions as authentic.
Doesn't it also mean to elevate or glorify?
Didn't that one come out a couple of years ago and star Will Smith? : ) Hey, I am from Kentucky. We only recognize one Muhammad . . . and he's "the greatest"!! LOL
I recognize that Catholics are Christians and do worship Jesus. However, you have to admit, you all do put a bit more emphasis on Mary than other Christians.
That is, transformed, changed in form. The great object was to reveal to the disciples his Divine glory before they beheld his humiliation upon the cross, in order to sustain their faith in the hour of trial.
"And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias."
Sounds like it was right there. Why would they think the need for tents if they were just "seeing" into heaven? Also, I think Transfiguration was properly defined a few posts back.
"Kinda glad that my denomination doesn't have to "approve" something for me to be able to believe it."
-My denomination. The very expression is Apostacy!
Amen
I agree with that. But there is nothing that proves that Moses and Elias came down to earth. Why could it not be that the apostles viewed Christ transfigured and saw him walking with Moses and Elias in Heaven?
It would mean to elevate in terms of idealizing. This definition would not apply in terms of physical elevation or going from Earth to Heaven.
I believe an honest reading of the 17th Chapter of Matthew can only result in the fact that Moses and Elijah left wherever they had been since they left the Earth by Chariot or Death. And, they were present with the Physical (not an image) Jesus on the top of the Mount of Transfiguration. Peter called to the Lord as he was right there.
Jesus was not brought to Heaven. He did not return to the father until after the Ressurection. His Glory touched down on Earth. That is one of the miracle of the Incarnation of Christ. What was in Heaven and Heaven could not contain became a baby.
As for us honoring the Mother of God, try the Magnificat {Luke1:46-55} And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord. 47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. 48 Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth ALL generations shall call me BLESSED. 49 Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name. 50 And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him.
"Veronica Lake? Clara Bow?
Sorry but I do NOT see the Virgin Mary., with that hair and those lips, I think of actresses of the silent screen era."
That's what I see too. Only I was thinking Heddy Lamar.
Catholics believe that Mary didn't die, but that at the end of her earthly life she was "assumed" into heaven, body and soul.
FWIW, I like to think of Our Lady as the Ark of the Covenant in sort of a figurative way.
A tabernacle is a place or worship. I took that as if Peter wished to build three places of worship (most likely altars) to Jesus, Moses and Elias.
LOL Okay, okay, so it's not my denomination. But I think you know what I meant. Oh, and isn't it apostasy?
Well once Clinton heads the UN....
Actually a Tabernacle is a place of repose. A shelter.
I wouldn't think it matters one way or another though.
Oh really? I had never heard that before. What's the basis of that belief?
Can you name another human being who gave birth to the son of god?
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