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Man who shot home intruder indicted for second-degree murder
Boston Globe ^ | 1/04/05 | AP

Posted on 01/04/2005 2:29:19 AM PST by kattracks

NEW BEDFORD, Mass. -- A man who shot and killed another man on his property has been indicted for second-degree murder, according to prosecutors. The grand jury indicted Charles D. Chieppa, 56, for the July 17 shooting of 26-year-old Frank Pereira Jr. with a rifle.

The fatal shots were fired near Chieppa's property just before dawn. By sunrise, motorists drove past Mr. Pereira's body, honking their horns and shouting in support of the shooting, the Standard-Times of New Bedford reported.

Chieppa, a Vietnam War combat veteran, lived in his parent's old home and largely kept to himself, neighbors said.

The home was next to Alfie's bar, which is known for drug dealing and prostitution. Pereira had snatched a purse from an Alfie's patron just hours before he was shot, police said.

Police had initially said the shooting happened when Chieppa confronted a burglar breaking into his home around 4 a.m. A day later, detectives acknowledged that they were investigating whether Pereira had actually entered the house before Chieppa opened fire.

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"My son didn't deserve to die the way he did, even if he was trying to break in," said Evelina Salgueiro, the victim's mother. "You don't shoot someone in the back like that. He was shot in the street."


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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To: cbkaty

YEOW! Pretty liberal shooting law, I LIKE THAT. I stand corrected. I thought that my state was pretty liberal when it comes to plugging someone.

KUDOS to Texas!


41 posted on 01/04/2005 5:04:35 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Unfortunately- the way the laws are written- you cannot shoot someone to protect your property- only yourself!He will be off due to no priors etc but I am sure the media will paint this dead kid as a saint that went bad due to poverty and uncaring parents and teachers- BWAAAHHH


42 posted on 01/04/2005 5:04:42 AM PST by newzhawk
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
"Ah, a Vietnam combat veteran. Must be guilty of any violent crime; no need for an expensive trial.
Why is this irrelevant fact in paragraph 3?
After almost 40 years, I'd like to be used to this, but it still rankles...
Ever see an article about a crook that said "...a former antiwar protestor..." Thought not."

The good news with that stereotype, is that if he actually goes to trial, he can claim PTSD.

Yes, you might ASSUME that the guy/s vandalizing or stealing your car in your yard are nonviolent. If you really want to protect yourself, family and property, you shoot to disable and deal with the consequences.

Here in MD, the NRA advises you to call your attorney first, then dial 911. Here in MD, you will at least appear before a Grand Jury.

The good news now is that the last time a "burglary victim's" family raised caine about the "unnecessary violence" that killed their son (a repeat felon), the Grand Jury did not bite.

Yes, criminals prefer their victims unarmed.
43 posted on 01/04/2005 5:17:45 AM PST by Stashiu ( Yeah, I am a Vietnam Vet, not a War Criminal.)
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To: HMFIC
You CANNOT plug someone over property...EVER!

With all due respect, that's not a "universal rule".

In my Village (in IL, but 'red' DuPage County) we are allowed to use deadly force to, "protect life and property".

Our Village's firearms laws consist of one half of one type written page (unlike Chicago's 69 pages) and I reread it over and over again to make sure I was reading it correctly, but that's it, "life and property".

44 posted on 01/04/2005 5:25:12 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: HMFIC
Now...now.... Let's keep this in perspective.

Anyone actually utilizing this "defense" better have a fat bank account....cause it's just a defense and an attorney will have to get you out of trouble...

Also...this defense does not shield one from civil penalties....so the beat goes on....

45 posted on 01/04/2005 5:25:17 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: kattracks

The liberal MSM NEVER reports the incidents that shine gun owners in a positive light. I would like to see statistics map of the U.S. showing gun ownership versus non gun ownership and the associated crime rates. I would be very surprised if it showed anything other than lower crime rates in higher gun ownership areas.


46 posted on 01/04/2005 5:26:02 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: R. Scott
Someone refresh my memory – was it Massachusetts where a prominent politician suggested that if you discover a burglar in your home you should flee your home and let the police handle it?

I am not a lawyer, but I believe that here in Massachusetts the law is that you must exit your house if there is an intruder, unless thst is not possible. Only then can you use lethal force (assuming of course, that the local police chief has granted your application for a gun license based on his determination that you have a "legitimate need.")

47 posted on 01/04/2005 5:27:50 AM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: cbkaty
In Texas...one has to ask, "How bad do you want that TV....punk?"

GRIN...actually, the question is, "How bad do I want that TV?"

48 posted on 01/04/2005 5:28:36 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: cbkaty

Well, in Virginia, if you kill someone, it is presumed to be second degree murder, so I would not kill someone over property in Virginia.


49 posted on 01/04/2005 5:35:15 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: IGOTMINE

Bump for later reading


50 posted on 01/04/2005 5:37:00 AM PST by IGOTMINE (Say a prayer for the common foot soldier...)
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To: SubMareener
Well, in Virginia, if you kill someone, it is presumed to be second degree murder, so I would not kill someone over property in Virginia.

I have made it clear in all my posts that in Texas, this is a "defense to prosecution" not an immunity......plus I do not recommend the use of deadly force to recover hubcaps or TVs.....

51 posted on 01/04/2005 5:38:12 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: kattracks

He should be rewarded for ridding the earth of another piece of scum.


52 posted on 01/04/2005 5:40:42 AM PST by Jackknife ("Always drink upstream from the herd." - Will Rogers)
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To: cbkaty

Any scum that goes after my dog gets five flying ashtrays from a .44 Bulldog. The cops will be told I was in fear for my life. The dog won't contradict me.


53 posted on 01/04/2005 5:45:01 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: HMFIC

Correct re: DO NOT DRAG THE BODY ANYWHERE! Leave them where they fall.
If ya got a good size kitchen butcher knife (and the perp had had access to the kitchen) AND you can get near the body without leaving alot of trace evidence, leave the knife near the body.

Tell the cops he said he was going to kill me. Keep it simple. Stick to a simple explanation.


54 posted on 01/04/2005 5:45:30 AM PST by djf
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To: jakkknife

We need a reward system for shooting dirtbags like this.


55 posted on 01/04/2005 5:45:49 AM PST by Hawk44
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
Ah, a Vietnam combat veteran. Must be guilty of any violent crime; no need for an expensive trial. Why is this irrelevant fact in paragraph 3? After almost 40 years, I'd like to be used to this, but it still rankles... Ever see an article about a crook that said "...a former antiwar protestor..." Thought not.

Rankles me as well.....

The victim...is 56 and the perp was 26 and coming from a bar next door... with a rep for prostitituion and drug sales...(you can bet plenty of violent criminals as well)....

Too bad he didn't have a fenced in yard and at least one good dog on the property......preferably a pit bull

imo

56 posted on 01/04/2005 5:47:48 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: carlr

Well there ya go...in Mass if you catch someone in your home raping your ole granny... offer him a ride home when he's done....and then drive off a bridge and let the sob drowned....

It works for Teddy....

imo


57 posted on 01/04/2005 5:50:19 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: HMFIC
2. You CANNOT plug someone over property...EVER! Call 9-11 and then call your insurance company.

Provided you don't live in Texas.

58 posted on 01/04/2005 5:52:15 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: kattracks

Dateline: Massachusettes... that's all you need to know.

Leave a girl for dead at the bottom of a lake, and try to cover it up... you get to be a Senator. Kill a scumbag that is in the process of trying to steal your property be charged with murder.


59 posted on 01/04/2005 5:52:46 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ProudVet77
Not sure why the detectives pursued it further

You're not? This is MA. Home of gun control and liberal anti-freedom thought. The only worse jurisdiction for self defense is NYC (and maybe Wash, DC)

60 posted on 01/04/2005 5:55:27 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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