Posted on 01/03/2005 3:13:27 PM PST by TankerKC
They can't hide behind "we're stupid, not evil". They can't escape by saying the bloggers haven't proved the documents were forged to CBS' satisfaction. The burden of proof is on the accuser and CBS didn't meet it. The rest of this article is an inept attempt to muddy the water.
http://www.coreypein.com/resume.htm
Note the last line in his Resume.
I retract.
It's a self-promotion site.
Okay, author. Money where the mouth is. Recreate the documents that are known to be authentic, using only MS Word. Get 'em to line up near perfectly.
I am so glad "we" have the internet, and FR, to critically dissect issues.
Dear Corey,
There are three probable overall conclusions from your long article in the CJR. 1. You attempted to write a definitive article without developing an understanding of the importance of serifs, kerning, superscripts, computer programs, and the typewriters available in any Air Force Reserve Office in the world. I'm inclined to be charitable and go with this basic error as the explanation for the failure of your article.
The other options are: 2. You did not bother to get to the bottom of the blogosphere's findings about the memos because you were biased in favor of the conclusion tentatively reached that CBS wasn't so bad. Or, 3. you may have had an inkling of the truth in this story, but after all you were writing for the CJR, the castle keep of the MSM. So you felt obligated to toe the line.
There is one more possibility, You believe that you arrived at the truth and reported the truth. I dismiss that as beyond probability. But if you claim that is an accurate analysis, feel free to jump into an active discussion of your work, which you will find here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1313225/posts?q=1&&page=51
I won't hold my breath waiting to hear from you. But it would be interesting if you crop up.
Sincerely,
John Armor, Esq.
(aka, Congressman Billybob)
Well Kill Me a Kulak!! All them big city journalism professors can't tell the memo was forged ("Whats the Kern Frequency?")
Is'nt that there Columbia University where they have that big Pulitzer outfit that last year reaffirmed Duranty's cover up of the Ukrainian Holodomor?
Corey is Pe'in in the wind. But, of course, he is an un-
biased purveyor of facts with no axe to grind.
Don't forget that the forgeries used the wrong paper size too.
What a sad attempt to cover up the crimes of rather and SeeBS.
Welcome!!!
Try http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1313257/posts DUmmie FUnnies
Ask PJ-Comix to put you on the "ping" list -- you will get a "new posts for you" whenever a new thread is started.
This is astonishingly bad reporting. This clown would fail logic 101, but of course that is not a pre-req for Journalism school.
On September 8, just weeks before the presidential election, 60 Minutes II ran a story about how George W. Bush got preferential treatment as he glided through his time in the Texas Air National Guard. The story was anchored on four memos that, it turns out, were of unknown origin.
Gross prejudice, badly phrased. The story was not "about how George W. Bush got preferential treatment," as if that were an established truth. The story was a rehash of crap discredited hundreds of times by multiple official and independent sources that psychotic Bush hating freaks (like Dan Rather) refused to let go of. It was, in fact, a baseless accusation against a sitting President in time of war. I call that TREASON. Hang the bastards, including this traitor. (intentionally inflamatory remark meant to catch the MSM's notice)
The story was "anchored" on four OBVIOUSLY amateurishly forged memos from a known psychotic (really - he has been committed several times, including voluntary commitments by himself - so he knows he's crazy) who has been peddling more and more extreme and bizarre anti-Bush conspiracy theories over the last 10 years. No credible journalist would return this clown's phone calls. That is until the DNC put him in touch with Dan Rather. This isn't rocket science. It's conspiracy to commit treason. RICO is the least of their troubles. This jerk is now an accessory after the fact. Twenty five to life.
Dan Rather and company stand accused of undue haste, carelessness, excessive credulity, and, in some minds, partisanship, in what has become known as 'Memogate.'
No, Dan Rather and the Democrat party stand accused of fraud, forgery, conspiracy and treason. Oh, and they stand accused of assuming that the American people are idiots. Fortunately, they are wrong on their last assumption.
We know Killian’s name was on them. We don’t know whether the memos were forged, authentic, or some combination thereof.
Tortured and absolutely BS construction. We know that Killian's name was placed on them, but no credible source will attest to them, including CBS' own "experts," as they are obviously photo copied from other documents. We do know that the memos were forged by simple experiments performed by numerous independent sources who HAPPEN TO BE RECOGNIZED EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. What part of "you have been caught red handed" doesn't this idiot understand?
they could be fake but accurate, as Killian’s secretary, Marian Carr Knox, told CBS on September 15.
Well, here's a provable lie. Marian Carr Knox was not "Killian's secretary." She was a secretary who occasionally, but rarely (according to all other witnesses in the office) interacted with Killian. Anyone who still sticks to the "fake but accurate" line of "reasoning" is easily dismissed as a complete twit.
We don’t know through what process they wound up in the possession of a former Guardsman, Bill Burkett, who gave them to the star CBS producer Mary Mapes.
Lie by omission. Bill Burkett, the aforementioned self described psycho, is not a former AIR National Guardsman. he spent 28 years in the ARMY National Guard. You will notice that the "objective" journalists who want to promote these lies always talk about him being in the National Guard, without pointing out this inconvenient fact.
Burkett has no credible reason to ever come in contact with any of the individuals involved, except extreme partisan/criminal Democrat party politics. Burkett's chosen corroborating witness for his charges (destroyed documents to cover up Bush "crimes") has testified that it never happened. Burkett does have a history of making easily disproved (repeatedly) wild charges against the entire Texas National Guard and the government of Texas, particularly former Governor Bush, who he has fixated on as the cause of imagined illnesses he believes he contracted while on duty in Panama. Those claims of illness have been repeatedly debunked and discredited.
The bottom line, which credible document examiners concede, is that copies cannot be authenticated either way with absolute certainty.
Absolutely wrong. All credible authorities, including CBS' own "experts" agree that you cannot authenticate documents that have been treated as described. It is, however, possible to prove that they are forged. As has been more than adequately documented, these documents were forged. The bottom line is that this author is pushing a partisan hit piece attempting to cover up criminal and even treasonous behavior with additional lies.
We know less about this story than we think we do, and less than we printed, broadcast, and posted.
That sounds like a rather bizarre justification for continuing to push proven falsehoods. Sounds suspiciously like a guilty conscious admitting complicity in the conspiracy to me. Call Oliver Stone!
Ultimately, we don’t know enough to justify the conventional wisdom: that the documents were “apparently bogus” (as Howard Kurtz put it, reporting on Dan Rather’s resignation) and that a major news network was an accomplice to political slander.
Oh no you don't. You can't construct a straw man of lies and then manufacture a convenient out for your favorite bigot and traitor. This sounds precisely like the BS pushed by the Klan in Mississippi after the Freedom Marchers were found buried in the earthen dam. BS is BS. Fortunately the smell never washes away from anyone who trades in it.
The rest of this article is more of the same. I will not soil myself further with this cretins ramblings. If pressed I will go back and document the increasing bizarre "evidence" and "conclusions" that this loopy SOB engages in, but right now I need a shower.
One can always remember that the ultimate lesson of the concept so dear to the loony left, Karma, is that "time wounds all heals."
Even worse, typerwriters of the day were awful. They dropped, slanted, missed, and generally had impurities in the final product -- even the vaunted IBM with the typeballs. To exactly match a document produced in that era would take hours -- shifting over to the right a point, dro;pping a letter a 1/2 point, etc. etc.
To do it in 5 minutes PERFECTLY is/was proof. Only modern printers can produce a document with perfect spacing, sizing and kerning.
His nose is Ratherbrown"
Hey, this young intern wants a job with CBS.
Yes, indeed, the Piltdown man was just a re-creation of an actual fossil find which seems to have since been misplaced.
Precisely. The typography is, itself, conclusive. The memos were not typed on a conventional typewriter, thus they could not have been produced in 1972.
Ergo, they are patently and demonstrably bogus.
Which means that their content is immediately made irrelevant and meaningless, even though Corey Pein goes on to try to "substantiate" the memos by examining their content. Which, for a "professional journalist" is a bizarre technique, indeed.
Note that the Columbia School of Journalism continues to support the Old Media's malfeasances while throwing dung at the New Media which showed them up. Given that the Old Media is literally dying and the New Media is where the "journalism" jobs will be in the future, one wonders if this approach is really good career counseling for their graduates...
'Fraid so. CJR is a The Nation wannabe, but often achieves something closer to dKos and DU.
Thought you might like this: Memogate: The experts and the amateurs
Corey Pein of the Columbia Journalism Review made many errors in his article about the bogus National Guard memos, but I'm going to deal only with my field of expertise, and discuss the typographic issues behind the exposure of the documents as fraudulent.
One and the same.
Very interesting, eh?
Oh, great find! Thank you for the ping!
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