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Blog-GateYes, CBS screwed up badly in ‘Memogate’ — but so did those who covered the affair
Columbia Journalism Review ^ | January 3, 2005 | Corey Pein

Posted on 01/03/2005 3:13:27 PM PST by TankerKC

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1 posted on 01/03/2005 3:13:29 PM PST by TankerKC
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To: rrrod; Buckhead

Your name's in print.


2 posted on 01/03/2005 3:14:16 PM PST by TankerKC (The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
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To: Howlin

Ping


3 posted on 01/03/2005 3:18:44 PM PST by TankerKC (The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
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To: TankerKC
The first, typography, took many detours before winding up at inconclusive.

~snort...I didn't bother to read the rest.

4 posted on 01/03/2005 3:19:06 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: TankerKC

Awwww, look at that! Columbia School of Journalism is trying to be relevant...

bwahahahahahahaaaaaa!

If only they had applied the same throrough analysis to Rather's memos, we might not be having this conversation right now. Too little, too late...

The damage has been done. Blogs rule.


5 posted on 01/03/2005 3:21:00 PM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: TankerKC

They neglect that the blogosphere is a raw input medium. Ideas and wild speculation are thrown out. From there the mass of the blogosphere wittles down what is known from what is conjectured.


6 posted on 01/03/2005 3:21:21 PM PST by Bogey78O (Hillary Clinton + Fertility pills + Scott Peterson + rowboat = Success)
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To: TankerKC

This is how I found Free Republic--you've been mentioned so many times in connection with the Rather story. After wondering just what a "freeper" did, I've finally come to the site to be one!


7 posted on 01/03/2005 3:22:23 PM PST by VRWCisme (I'm new around here. It's nice to meet y'all!)
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To: TankerKC

"thinly supported theories and flawed critiques"

Like the idea that the memos could have been "copies?" Copies? If they were copies someone would have merely photocopied the originals. Why "re"-type them in a modern font?

Silly abuse of the word "copy". Shows what ignorance wanted to believe in Operation Fortunate Son.


8 posted on 01/03/2005 3:22:45 PM PST by Shermy
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To: TankerKC

FGS

I couldn't even get half way through this tortured "logic" and erroneous equivalencies this guy tries (and naturally fails) to make.


9 posted on 01/03/2005 3:22:47 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: TankerKC
Wow, what a stunningly clumsy, inept, poorly researched and overall, childish overview of this incident.
10 posted on 01/03/2005 3:22:48 PM PST by DGray (http://nicanfhilidh.blogspot.com)
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To: TankerKC
The initial probe included an allegation of illegal arms shipment to Honduras, but the charge came up dry.

That ought to be enough to discredit him. If you are for Bush and from Texas you are not to be beileved. Columbia?

11 posted on 01/03/2005 3:23:17 PM PST by andyandval
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To: TankerKC
We don’t know whether the memos were forged, authentic, or some combination thereof.

This is correct, assuming that Killian had access to a time machine that could have transported him to 2002, where he could use Microsoft Word to produce the documents, then zip back to the sixties to file them.

Indeed, they could be fake but accurate, as Killian’s secretary, Marian Carr Knox, told CBS on September 15.

Yes, and if my aunt had any balls, she’d be my uncle.

Solid reporting, this.

12 posted on 01/03/2005 3:23:45 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


13 posted on 01/03/2005 3:24:18 PM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: Drango
I didn't bother to read the rest.

Then you missed how easily the author dismissed the fact that it was a Microsoft Word document.

-PJ

14 posted on 01/03/2005 3:25:04 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

Bloogers win, Mass Media loses.

I suppose that there are no meetings to discuss what is known about a story before running with it? Imagine if we could tune in at 2PM and see their roundtable chatter.

It would be good to hear how they justified running with this story that was coordinated together with the DNC.

15 posted on 01/03/2005 3:25:09 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: TankerKC

What a lot of hot air.

Rather tried to use fake documents to take down the President. He got caught and he lost his job over it.


16 posted on 01/03/2005 3:25:59 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: TankerKC
The first, typography, took many detours before winding up at inconclusive...

The documents were produced using letter spacing and formatting conventions that were not devised until the 1980's and 1990's. Someone with a list of all the letterspacings and formatting conventions required could have produced such a document in 1972 using a pantograph engraver, but that someone would happen to hit upon the right formatting conventions or letter spacing by chance is absurd. The notion that someone would use a pantograph engraver for a memo-to-file is also absurd.

How is that "inconclusive"?

17 posted on 01/03/2005 3:26:11 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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To: dead

Why didn't anyone suggest that the Hitler Diaries "may be forged by accurate"?


18 posted on 01/03/2005 3:26:19 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: TankerKC

What an incredibly crock. When I read this line " We don’t know whether the memos were forged, authentic, or some combination thereof." I thought this must be an old article from the first few days of the affair. But lo, that is not the case. And the author goes on to further embarrass himself with equally disengenuous remarks (the superscript WAS possible on an old typewriter, so some source claims).

The great thing about the blog is you get to actually see the sausage being made. I was even a part of it when I asked, less than 24 hours after Buckhead started this, why the superscript was not at the right level on my computer. Another freeper told me to print it, and that the printout would match the forged documents exactly even though what I saw on my screen didn't. He was spot on.

The collective conscience of the blogosphere milled it over for all to see as the only logical conclusion availed itself for everyone to see. It was marvelous.


19 posted on 01/03/2005 3:26:44 PM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: dandelion

"If only they had applied the same throrough analysis to Rather's memos, we might not be having this conversation right now."

Good point.


20 posted on 01/03/2005 3:26:48 PM PST by Max Combined
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