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Blog-GateYes, CBS screwed up badly in ‘Memogate’ — but so did those who covered the affair
Columbia Journalism Review ^ | January 3, 2005 | Corey Pein

Posted on 01/03/2005 3:13:27 PM PST by TankerKC

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To: Buckhead
And how did I know? I'm 46 years old and I am not a blithering idiot.

As for myself, I am 65 yrs old. And, having worked in the advertising business during the 60's, 70's and 80's, bought and handled a lot of lithographic typesetting.

I'm thus old enough to know what typewriter type looks like. And professionally experienced enough to know what computer typeset type looks like.

And those memos were not written on any typewriter. And anybody of my age and experience would know that -- by inspection. The rest of the proof is merely demonstration.

101 posted on 01/03/2005 6:09:17 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: APFel
Frankly, I didn't think the "forgery" angle was going to have any legs (due to my cynicism towards the MSM) but the process in and of itself was glorious to behold

I felt the exact same way. I was completely psyched, but felt that, once again, our "work," if you will, would fall by the wayside.

You cannot believe how surprised I was the following morning when I started getting email through my Howlin@FreeRepublic.com and my hotmail account from REPORTERS and/or politicos, trying to pick my brain and wanting me to comment. I get like 3 emails at hotmail a week; I got over 100 that first day.

I just sat here wondering what in the world was going on!

102 posted on 01/03/2005 6:12:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: steveyp

Well, he's just as vacuous on his blog as he is in this article, isn't he?


103 posted on 01/03/2005 6:14:23 PM PST by Howlin
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To: steveyp
Voted "most likely to bring down a presidential administration" by Columbia classmates.

*Sneer*

104 posted on 01/03/2005 6:16:13 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Congressman Billybob

John, you took the words right out of my mouth.

NOT! I could never come close to addressing this little punk as eloquently as you did!

Shall I go buy us some Valentine cards while we wait? We can busy ourselves addressing them while we pass the time.


105 posted on 01/03/2005 6:17:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TankerKC
Among them, that CBS’s producer, Mary Mapes, was a liberal stooge; that her source, Bill Burkett, was a lefty moonbat with an ax to grind.

I read this POS twice looking for evidence to the contradicting this assertion, and found none.

106 posted on 01/03/2005 6:41:42 PM PST by j_tull (End Freepathons, give monthly!)
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To: Howlin; Congressman Billybob; TankerKC
Howlin: Oh, great find! Thank you for the ping!

My pleasure, in fact, it just gets better.

From Corey Pein's resume:

The Evergreen State College
Olympia, WA
B.A., liberal arts -- September 2003
* Studied economics, politics and philosophy. Thesis on domestic propaganda in the war on terrorism.

Evergreen? Hmmmm ...

107 posted on 01/03/2005 7:18:40 PM PST by optimistically_conservative (The soldier, be he friend or foe, is charged with the protection of the weak and the unarmed.)
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To: optimistically_conservative

Oh.......freaky!


108 posted on 01/03/2005 7:25:00 PM PST by Howlin
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To: okie01; Congressman Billybob

This guy graduated college in 2003, and J school at Columbia in 2004, so he is very young. His youth would incline me to charity towards this appalling tripe, but it is so tendentious and so manipulative and so patently false in so many particulars that maintaining a charitable attitude is more than I can muster. It also raises the question - do they have editors at the CJR? How can a functioning, literate adult who is in the flow of news and current events who calls himself an editor permit such transparent garbage to be printed?

The number of sources who vouched for the authenticity of these documents to CBS is exactly zero. The number of sources who warned CBS beforehand that the documents were problematic is five - Bill Burkett his own crazy self, their own two forensic document examiners, and the widow, and and the son. They had NOTHING - NOTHING to support going to air with these documents, and they did it anyway, and then claimed their sources were unimpeachable. But this pinhead, this pipsqueak, this pissant cannot muster the wits to even notice these things or to find anything wrong with them.

There is virtually no end to his errors, his sloppiness, his laziness, or his arrogance.


109 posted on 01/03/2005 7:26:07 PM PST by Buckhead (Family Motto: "Often wrong, but never in doubt.")
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To: Buckhead
There is virtually no end to his errors, his sloppiness, his laziness, or his arrogance.

It is more than mere youth.

It is liberalism...

110 posted on 01/03/2005 7:33:48 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Buckhead; okie01
I looked at the list of recent articles published by this wet-behind-the-ears "reporter." He has had several in the CJR. We may be looking at nothing more than shamefully dishonest resume enhancement.

He knows that CJK looks good on his resume. He knows how to provide what the Editor at CJR wants. So he provides what he wants, both sides get their backs scratched. Columbia is still best friends with the biggies in the MSM. The published article is cr*p, of course, but that doesn't matter.

Does that seem logical?

John / Billybob

111 posted on 01/03/2005 7:36:45 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: TankerKC

CJR shows why the old media is going to die soon.


112 posted on 01/03/2005 7:38:49 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Buckhead
It also raises the question - do they have editors at the CJR?

According to their masthead, Corey Pein is an editor -- with the title of Ass't Editor.

Which, of course, raises the question of who edits the editors?

Given the demonstrated standards, it also tends to suggest that CJR is probably not as serious a publication as they would want you to think it is.

Given Pein's age and experience, I'm now less inclined to ridicule him than to blame the institution that took his tuition money and gave him...what?

113 posted on 01/03/2005 7:42:53 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Congressman Billybob
But, would they (the CJR) and the MSM lie so blatantly, so deliberately covering each other to put an FCC censorship on the web ...

Would they really think they (CBS, MSM, and the democrats) do this in order that MSM keeps its "professional" appearance and "high standards" of journalism?

(I'm trying not to be sarcastic, but, again, do they really think that the democrats (covered by the MSM) think they can censor the web/FreeRepublic/bloggers/free press and nobody notice?)
114 posted on 01/03/2005 7:43:10 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: TankerKC
Please, please listen to me, I'm Corey Pein.

Columbia Journalism Review? Is that pronounced PAIN? As in pain in the a$$?

Columbia Journalism Review? ROFLMAO!

5.56mm

115 posted on 01/03/2005 7:43:27 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Congressman Billybob
Does that seem logical?

Yes, it does. See #113, which should have been addressed to you, as well.

116 posted on 01/03/2005 7:45:07 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: TankerKC
Nearly four hours later it was followed by postings from “Buckhead,” whom the Los Angeles Times later identified as Harry MacDougald, a Republican lawyer in Atlanta.

The adjective 'Republican' is both irrelevant and ambiguous here. Is the author saying Buckhead works for the Republican party, or is a lawyer who happens to be Republican? (The answer is not important, the point is the inclusion of information intended to bias the reader.)

...Other blogs quickly picked up the charges. One of the story’s top blogs, Rathergate.com, is registered to a firm run by Richard Viguerie, the legendary conservative fund-raiser. Some were fed by the conservative Media Research Center and by Creative Response Concepts, the same p.r. firm that promoted the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

I'm shocked, as are you I'm sure, that those discrediting a story critical of a Republican politician are...*gasp*...CONSERVATIVE! Who woulda thought? People with an incentive to defend fellow conservatives? Why aren't Camille Paglia and Noam Chomsky on the case?

This part is so naive it insults our intelligence.

CRC’s executives bragged to PR Week that they helped legitimize the documents-are-fake story by supplying quotes from document experts as early as the day after the report, September 9.

This reporter obviously hasn't heard of email and the telephone. Any reputable 'document expert' would have had researchers burning up their answering machines the morning after. It doesn't take days and days, if you're an expert, to form an opinion and then disseminate it.

This writer is an idiot, or thinks we are.

117 posted on 01/03/2005 7:50:34 PM PST by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: TankerKC
But on close examination the scene looks less like a victory for democracy than a case of mob rule.

That's what democracy is - rule of the people. That's why the Constitution contains radical limitations on democracy, so that 'the people' can't outlaw unpopular ideas or religions.

These self-dubbed 'journalists' are such paper tigers for their own agendas.

118 posted on 01/03/2005 7:55:12 PM PST by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: TankerKC

Hmm look at the source, a school that purportedly gets paid to turn students into journalists. Seems like a turf war. This "journal" is just as guilty as Dan Rather.


119 posted on 01/03/2005 8:02:12 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: DGray

what a stunningly clumsy, inept, poorly researched and overall, childish overview of this incident




That is basically a job description for a reporter, is it not?


120 posted on 01/03/2005 8:12:03 PM PST by rollin
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