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1 posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:58 AM PST by qam1
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Being childless and having abortions are from the same root: selfishness. Period, end of story. If you could have, but do not have, kids, why waste the oxygen? I know this is harsh, but...


74 posted on 01/03/2005 9:01:39 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable hints that God exists)
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My personal recommendation is if you want kids, do it young. My wife passed when I was 45, she had a son by a previous marriage, but we never had any together, and I'm not close with her son at all.

Now, at 50, I very much regret not having any.


And still deeply miss her.


76 posted on 01/03/2005 9:02:00 AM PST by djf
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My wife and I have been married for 6 years now and do not have children because we are trying to finish college.

Meanwhile our siblings have children but are uneducated and struggle to provide for them. We are both 28 and feel that we still have time however we do find ourselves isolated at times by our parents who think we are weird for being married so long without children.

I can relate to this article. We often ponder about having children but have zero desire to do so right now.

If we do have children we want to be able to provide the best for them that we can therefore finishing college is a must!


78 posted on 01/03/2005 9:02:44 AM PST by TSgt (Brunettes, Guns and FR: These are a few of my favorite things...)
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Some couples feel happy being with each other and finding their mutual company fulfilling. Have kids changes everything and you have to always put them ahead of each other. For some husbands and wives its too big a hassle.


82 posted on 01/03/2005 9:04:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"Child-rearing in modern times is expensive and can be onerous, especially after you've been living as a single person or a couple without children for a while"

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My mom used to always say that having children is like taking vacations. If you wait until you can afford them you'll never have them.
87 posted on 01/03/2005 9:05:19 AM PST by Mase
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This fits right in with the ABA model divorce code which evisions children as a MERE ACCESSORY to marriage. In other words marriage is only a means of ADULT behavior.

Why is this important? Because this fits in with homosexual marriage advocated by the ABA and other groups. As long as marriage is tied as an institution raising children then there will never be viability to homosexual marriage.

This article is nothing but propaganda since the childless couple described is acting as AUNT AND UNCLE and at any time could subsitute for mother and father without being notice.

Homosexuals deride normal people as "breeders", a check of the author of this article would probably reveal support for the homo-agenda.

Goebles would be proud.


91 posted on 01/03/2005 9:06:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To all the people calling these folks "selfish":

Do you think married people who don't want children should have them???

Stop and think for a moment.


106 posted on 01/03/2005 9:10:43 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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Wow--I would do anything, including having a kid, to avoid being a self-centered leftist a-hole like those people.

To do:
1. knock up girlfriend....

120 posted on 01/03/2005 9:14:20 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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The most "fulfilled" DINKS I know are those who pursue equestrian hobbies. Horses take the place of kids both for having something to love and at the same time having something to take your money.
150 posted on 01/03/2005 9:26:02 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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I want to take part in this discussion somehow, but I don't like the tone of these childless people in this article that think they are somehow special or left out of life and need a support group. It's just one of many choices in life, and whether you are the odd-man out because of your child-status depends on the age and your circle of friends.

My new husband and I are in no hurry to have children. We like children, but aren't sure right now that we should have them now... we married late, I am the 'she' and I am 37. We have much we'd like to do in life, for the next year or two we'd like to spend our summers horseback riding and for now, children would interfere with much of it. It's more complicated than that, certainly, but we just aren't drawn to parenthood, and don't know if we ever will be.

My best childhood friend, same age, just had her first baby. In our circle of friends, she is more the odd man out right now if anyone, because most of our friends with children did babies years ago and theirs are half-grown. I can see that for the next several years, we may not have a lot in common. But most of my other friendships adapted to new children, and if this one also can, it will.


159 posted on 01/03/2005 9:29:35 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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Not having children is a definite sign of immaturity. It never occurred to me to have kids, even after I married, until a grew up some. And then the kids came and I found out I only thought I was a grownup.

I was frustrated for a while that I had no time for all my little projects and hobbies. After a while, it dawned on me that the kids are more challenging and rewarding than anything else I will ever do.

Most people without kids simply can't relate. They see the time demands and constraints of children to be heinous, even on people other than themselves.

But the older I get, the more I feel my own mortality, the more I realize that time spent on myself is more of a necessity than an entitlement or priviledge. And spending too much time on myself is just vanity, a waste that neither makes me nor anyone else happy.

183 posted on 01/03/2005 9:37:25 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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Not having children is a definite sign of immaturity. It never occurred to me to have kids, even after I married, until a grew up some. And then the kids came and I found out I only thought I was a grownup.

I was frustrated for a while that I had no time for all my little projects and hobbies. After a while, it dawned on me that the kids are more challenging and rewarding than anything else I will ever do.

Most people without kids simply can't relate. They see the time demands and constraints of children to be heinous, even on people other than themselves.

But the older I get, the more I feel my own mortality, the more I realize that time spent on myself is more of a necessity than an entitlement or priviledge. And spending too much time on myself is just vanity, a waste that neither makes me nor anyone else happy.

184 posted on 01/03/2005 9:37:26 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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I have a daughter who is 36 and childless. I think it is a very good decision. She does not have the temperament to be a GOOD mother. She's a pretty emotional person, and her hubby was adopted. Neither want children, each for their own reasons. They are not selfish. They know themselves well.


201 posted on 01/03/2005 9:43:36 AM PST by SnarlinCubBear (He's hairy, short, walks on 4 legs, cannot speak clearly....I have no problem with any of these.)
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I've never felt the desire to have children. It's not because of career or parties or money or anything like that, it's because I just plain don't like kids. If I ever did have one though I'd raise it right... homeschooled or private schooled, no TV, lots of outdoor play, etc.


203 posted on 01/03/2005 9:44:44 AM PST by Nataku X (There are no converts in Islam... only hostages.)
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Adoption...I imagine as wars and natural disasters increase there are and will be many young children in need of decent homes...and loving parents....


223 posted on 01/03/2005 9:52:16 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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I have no problem with people who want to be childless. Honestly, there are some people who should just not have children. I only get mad at people who assume that all children are little monsters. In one restaurant years ago a lady saw my 8 month old son at our table and loudly complained about "not another baby". Except for a few giggles from him that had other customers smiling he was very well behaved.


236 posted on 01/03/2005 9:56:04 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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The bride and I have been married for over 37 years and have no children, not by choice, rather by bad luck and heartache.

I feel sorry for these selfish people.

280 posted on 01/03/2005 10:12:29 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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And the beat goes on ...


294 posted on 01/03/2005 10:23:00 AM PST by ELS
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That's great that they aren't going to have children just to have children, but then the man assumes that the fathers he knows thinks he's the lucky one, and the woman wants a party for not investing herself in the next generation. Some greyhounds are better off, though, and that's to their credit.

I know a couple who choose to remain childless; they are politically conservative.


300 posted on 01/03/2005 10:25:02 AM PST by skr
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If you want life to always be "all about you," don't have kids. I am so glad my life is not all about me.


335 posted on 01/03/2005 10:43:07 AM PST by Yaelle
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