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Oliver Stone laments 'Alexander the gay'
World Net Daily ^ | Jan 1, 2005 | (none)

Posted on 01/01/2005 8:03:33 AM PST by BobL

Oliver Stone laments 'Alexander the gay'

Director admits: 'There was clear resistance to his homosexuality'

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Hollywood director Oliver Stone is lamenting the poor box-office performance of his latest film "Alexander," citing the homosexuality of the lead character as one of the detrimental factors.

Colin Farrell, right, stars as Alexander the Great, with Angelina Jolie and Val Kilmer as his parents. (Courtesy Warner Bros.)

"I still think it's a beautiful movie, but Alexander deserves better than I gave him," Stone said, according to the London Telegraph. "There was clear resistance to his homosexuality. It became the headline to the movie. They called him Alexander the gay. That's horribly discriminatory, but the film simply didn't open in the Bible Belt."

Stone, who also directed films including "Nixon" and "JFK," said he should have sliced the length of his latest movie from three hours down to 2 and a half, "and taken out the homosexuality for the U.S. market and for countries sensitive to such things, like Korea or Greece."

"Kids weren't comfortable with men who hugged, a king who cries and expresses tenderness," he added.

"Alexander," which recounts the life and times of the famed Macedonian conqueror, has been unable to slay the public despite a $195 million budget and well-known stars including Colin Farrell, Angelina Jolie and Val Kilmer.

The film has raked in $33.9 million in its sixth week, grossing just $41,000 on only 232 screens over the Christmas holiday weekend, translating into $177 per show.

As WorldNetDaily previously reported, reviews for the film have been harsh to say the least.

Reviewer Jeffery Westfoff of the Northwest Herald in Crystal Lake, Ill., wrote "'Alexander' often seems a couple of heartbeats away from turning into a gay porno film."

Philip Wuntch of the Dallas Morning News said, "'Alexander' has aspirations of greatness, hoping to be christened an intellectual super-spectacle for brainy moviegoers. The sad truth is that it will probably numb more brain cells than it will stimulate."

Wuntch notes that in the film, "Alexander prefers the after-hours company of men, considering women to be necessary primarily for reproductive reasons. His true soul mate is boyhood companion Hephaistion [Jared Leto], to whom he says softly, 'I'm nothing without you.' They never exchange an onscreen kiss, but their eyes constantly caress each other."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alexander; alexanderthegreat; movies; olivernitwit; olivernutcase; oliverstone; stonethecommie; stonetheloser
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To: BobL
"Kids weren't comfortable with men who hugged, a king who cries and expresses tenderness," he added.

Perhaps there's hope after all. There's zero evidence that Al was a queer. Rot in hell Stone, serves you right.
21 posted on 01/01/2005 8:26:24 AM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: evenstar_04
"I disagree with the idea that the gay stuff ruined the movie..."

You may well be right, as I'm only speaking for myself (although Oliver is also confirming it) - but I was totally hooked into seeing this movie, especially after the History Channel did their own show on it. Then I heard this gay stuff, and I was through.
22 posted on 01/01/2005 8:26:59 AM PST by BobL
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To: Always Right

Alexander was a bisexual - history talks about his life-long "friend" and his relative lack of interest in women and his "effeminate" speaking style. He was more or less gay up until he reached a city I'm too lazy to google, where he engaged in a year or two of hetero-hedonism. I don't mind that he's gay or bi or whatever - there's enough circumstancial evidence that I can live with it. However, none of this excuses Stone from making a bad movie which focussed way too much on something as unimportant as who Alexander liked to kiss. It also made Alexander look like a good ruler - he wasn't. He was flighty, he only cared about proving to himself that he was the son of a god, he killed any advisors who suggested that he "turn back", he set fire to one city (which I'm too lazy to google) in a fit of drunken inspiration, and there's no talk that I can remember of him not stopping his armies from raping, looting etc. There's just more to the story than Stone will admit - he'd rather blame it on "homophobic America".


23 posted on 01/01/2005 8:28:55 AM PST by mudblood
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To: Aetius

Alexander probably had sex with men or boys, as most upper-class men of his time did, but it was an aspect of his life that was of little importance to Alexander or his contemporaries. As you point out, VDH does an outstanding job of showing how greatly our attitudes towards sexuality diverge from those of the ancients.


24 posted on 01/01/2005 8:31:58 AM PST by Restorer
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To: BobL

Kids weren't comfortable with men who hugged, a king who cries and expresses tenderness," he added.


Once again StoneD piles on the lies for his benefit.
Many kids(boys included) grew up watching tender moments from such movies as Old Yeller, My Friend Flicka, Lassie Come Home and yes, even John Waynes True Grit "tender" moments and enjoyed every moment of it, tears included. There are movies today that have the same effect. Maybe Oliver StoneD is in denial about "his" appeal.


25 posted on 01/01/2005 8:32:15 AM PST by SunnySide
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To: BobL

Yeah, he is such a great subject! And then to see how Stone just had to focus on his sexuality was such a terrible mistake. But even without that part, the movie was still poorly done.


26 posted on 01/01/2005 8:34:53 AM PST by SpartacusII
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To: BobL

How infuriating and egocentric that this creep Stone dared make this film. That Stone though he could make such a film demonstrates his brutish arrogance.

To take a fascinating figure and epoch and turn it into a gay agenda film is so disgusting it's revolting.


27 posted on 01/01/2005 8:35:52 AM PST by eleni121 (Xronia polla! 4 more years and then 4 more again.)
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To: BobL

"There was clear resistance to his homosexuality. It became the headline to the movie. They called him Alexander the gay. That's horribly discriminatory, but the film simply didn't open in the Bible Belt." -- Oliver Stone

That reveals his true agenda. Stone is complaining that his film is going into the toilet because of all the redneck rube homophobes in Red State "Jesusland". It's just thinly veiled prejudice.


28 posted on 01/01/2005 8:36:05 AM PST by Pembleton Bayliss
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To: BobL

Stone blames the failure of Alexander on the Bible Belt?
What a spineless slug.


29 posted on 01/01/2005 8:37:44 AM PST by TET1968
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To: BobL

This is BS! The movie plain SUCKED. This is just another "Blame to Red States" thing. There are plenty of left wingers who would love this sort of movie, but Alexander made less than 1/3 of what F911 did...


30 posted on 01/01/2005 8:38:20 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: BobL
I doubt it.

From what I understand from the people who did see it, it is boring. How a film on one of the most fascinating historical figures ever could be boring is amazing but that is what they said. They were cheering for Alexander to die just so it would end.

And the battle scenes were, in their words, the most awful mess. And these were people who liked "Troy" and even "Helen of Troy". For them to say it was bad it must have stunk like rotting shrimp.

31 posted on 01/01/2005 8:38:43 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum (V minus 15 and counting))
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To: Always Right

I was thinking the same.

I am skeptical of which movies I see. I probably won't ever see a movie directed by Oliver Stone.


32 posted on 01/01/2005 8:39:04 AM PST by msjhall
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To: BobL
The film has raked in $33.9 million in its sixth week, grossing just $41,000 on only 232 screens over the Christmas holiday weekend, translating into $177 per show.

What's that, about twenty to twenty-five people per show? I'm surpirsed it's even drawing that many viewers! This film is such a bomb and a lemon, it gets press for being a bomb and a lemon!!!!

33 posted on 01/01/2005 8:41:10 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Drango

What a shame. I actually admired Scorsese's early work and now he has sunk to these depths...Hollyweird is at a crossroads: either reform and cleanse itself or go down in the dustbins of you know what.

Fortunately we have the classics to watch for the first time or rewatch.


34 posted on 01/01/2005 8:41:16 AM PST by eleni121 (Xronia polla! 4 more years and then 4 more again.)
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To: Drango
Mrs Drango and I saw Aviator yesterday. Almost walked out, but we were to numb with sleep. Worst movie of the decade.

Really? I'm surprised as it has gotten such good reviews. Saw SIDEWAYS on Thursday, it was hilarious although also disturbing.

35 posted on 01/01/2005 8:45:55 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: BobL
"Kids weren't comfortable with men who hugged, a king who cries and expresses tenderness," he added.

No, Stone, that's not it. People don't accept homos as normal and we don't want to pay money to see it. We don't like history rewritten in your own politically correct image. We like stories and plots and characters we care about, and a little acting wouldn't hurt either. We are tired of bodies and famous faces running from special effect to special effect. Get over it Oliver, your career is in the toilet. And if the kids are uncomfortable with anything its the fact that homosexuality is wrong and the tenderness expressed in your movie was caused by pushing objects where they don't belong.
36 posted on 01/01/2005 8:47:07 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: BobL
"Kids weren't comfortable with men who hugged, a king who cries and expresses tenderness," he added.

Uh no that ain't it Oliver. Both the kiddies and the adults were just fine with LOTR's Sam and Frodo hugging, crying and expressing tenderness because they weren't perverted hobbits. They were revolted by your perversion of male relationships in your queer porn video.

37 posted on 01/01/2005 8:51:35 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: SkyPilot
Anyone see the jumbled, confusing, and horrible "The Doors?"

No, but I saw "Born on the Fourth of July" and it was a very ugly movie. It wasn't even entertaining. Just ugly.

38 posted on 01/01/2005 8:51:50 AM PST by alnick
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To: Tom Bombadil

Huh? Help me make sense of what you just wrote!


39 posted on 01/01/2005 8:51:51 AM PST by old school
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To: BobL
......... I was planning to go to this one, until finding out there there was a political agenda behind it.................

Oliver Stone made the movie for an audience composed of atheists and Christian-haters, loaded it up with gratuitous sex and violence, then he gets very thoughtful and starts talking about "artistic (gag) meaning."

Stone and the Moral Relativist Shock Troops better mend their ways. The usual suspects include:

abortion-worshipping Feminazis

the fully fornicating Playboy-Cosmo faction

secular humanists who despise Christians

the ACLU-Christian baiters

Planned Parenthood and the population control cabal

the gay-transgender anti-family element

All of them aided and abetted by a compliant liberal media, agenda-driven academia which inculcates the Nation's youth with the idealogy along with Hollywarped---stealth Christian-haters---who proselytize audiences 24/7 without their knowledge or consent.

We, the people, have had it with Hollywarped's endless poselytizing, the continuous brainwashing of audiences into Christian-hating and American-hating, without the audiences' knowledge or consent. They've chipped away at Western civilzation under the guise of "artistic expression."

Follywood firmly believes that 24/7 of their sexually salacious and violent TV, movies and music are not harming kids and the culture.

OTOH, Hollywarped also believes----with the religious fervor of Tammy Faye Baker---- that a single 15-sec commercial will compel tens of millions of Americans into thousands of stores to buy billions of dollars worth of soap, soup, breakfast cereal and cars.

They can't have it both ways.

The Secular Taliban left the building Nov 2, 2004. Follywood better live with it.

40 posted on 01/01/2005 8:51:53 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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