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POLL: Democrat Voters LIKE Bush's Social Security PLAN!
WMCA - New York ^ | 12.17.2004

Posted on 12/17/2004 8:06:02 AM PST by KMC1

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VITRIOL, VENOM, AND VOTERS: When you visit far left bloggers like TalkingPointsMemo and DailyKos you can get the impression that democrats across the board violently disagree with the President on setting aside a small portion of Social Security taxes for the individual taxpayer to be able to privately invest/save/plan with.

A brand new (Opinion Dynamics
) poll debunks that...

The poll asked:
"Should people have the choice to invest a small amount privately?"
YES - 60%, NO - 27%

"Would you privately invest some of your Social Security money?"
Total Population - 55%
30 and Younger - 71%
30-45 Years of Age - 69%
46-55 Years of Age - 51%
56-64 Years of Age - 48%
65 and Older - 33%

"Should people have the choice to invest a small amount privately?"
Democrats - 53% Yes/37% No
Republicans - 71% Yes/12% No
Independents - 55% Yes/34% No

Certainly looks like a winning issue in the public's eye...I hope the President attempts to make it happen.

This is an excerpt, to read more  click here...


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KEYWORDS: democrats; poll; privateinvestment; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 12/17/2004 8:06:02 AM PST by KMC1
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To: KMC1

The younger they are the more they like it!!!


2 posted on 12/17/2004 8:10:06 AM PST by Mikey_1962
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To: KMC1
Obviously these polls are wrong, especially for the democrats.

The word has not filtered down yet

Bush is evil, Bush is a corporate puppet, Bush is too stupid to fix SS, etc, etc, etc.

Only democrats are compassion enough to really fix SS. Evil republicans are at it again trying to steal your money.

3 posted on 12/17/2004 8:11:05 AM PST by Popman
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To: KMC1

It would be a political coup if W can make SS reform a wedge issue against the 'rats.


4 posted on 12/17/2004 8:11:22 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Mikey_1962
The younger they are the more they like it!!!

Yes, and that's one of the reasons liberals in the Democratic Party and the legacy media will pull out all the stops to defeat it. It has the potential to bind a whole generation to the GOP for their lifetimes, just as FDR bound a generation with the advent of Social Security.

5 posted on 12/17/2004 8:13:16 AM PST by Joe Bonforte
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To: KMC1
New poll options:


6 posted on 12/17/2004 8:13:27 AM PST by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: Popman
Obviously these polls are wrong, especially for the democrats.

Except when polls show sKerry winning the election! =P
7 posted on 12/17/2004 8:14:37 AM PST by TheRatHunter
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To: KMC1

Just give the media a few months, they will have Democrats convinced that this is an evil plan by Bush to force elderly to eat dog food.


8 posted on 12/17/2004 8:15:44 AM PST by Always Right
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To: KMC1

This is great! Now, if we can get them on board for changing the the tax code.


9 posted on 12/17/2004 8:17:20 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Mikey_1962
The younger they are the more they like it!!!

The 29% of those under 30 who say no have me worried. Are there that many stupid young people? It's a no-brainer for anyone under 45 years of age.

10 posted on 12/17/2004 8:17:32 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: KMC1
The way I see the program explained around here, I don't see a downside.

People have their private retirement accounts, but if the accounts fail to generate the income that a person would otherwise get under social security, the government will make up the difference.

As everyone is counting on the accounts to at least generate the paulty income that SS would deliver, no one is expecting that SS will have to step in for those people with the accounts (or something like that).
11 posted on 12/17/2004 8:17:33 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: Always Right

Don't forget Bush's plans to hold all seniors' medications on strings over their heads just high enough so they can't reach.

That stupid bas-no, wait, that evil gen-dammit..what are the Dims calling him this week? Stupid or evil genius? I can't keep track.


12 posted on 12/17/2004 8:17:51 AM PST by TheRatHunter
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To: Mikey_1962

not me! I'd prefer that whopping 2% return on my confiscated money.


13 posted on 12/17/2004 8:19:18 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: KMC1

Are you really serious??? This is a FOX News poll, do you really believe, based on a FOX News poll, that Democrats favor privatizing social security??? Holy NIGHT!!!


14 posted on 12/17/2004 8:23:21 AM PST by mapleboard
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To: Rakkasan1

I just found out yesterday that you can opt out of Social Security if you want but you are not eligible for any benefits ever.

The company still has to pay the other 7.5% to the IRS.

I am working out the spreadsheet now.


15 posted on 12/17/2004 8:23:33 AM PST by Mikey_1962
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To: KMC1

Also, exit polls showed Kerry won Ohio...that's how much integrity I have in polls...


16 posted on 12/17/2004 8:24:49 AM PST by mapleboard
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To: KMC1
The biggest problem facing SS reform is AARP and their power, blue hairs voting power combined with the young not voting.

The young can be for SS reform 100%, but if they continue to sit on the couch instead of going to the polls it won't matter.

17 posted on 12/17/2004 8:43:20 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Mikey_1962
That is not true. You have to be employed with a governmental entity that opted out of SS prior to 1984 if memory serves me right.

If you have different information and a rock solid, legal, and indisputable way for me to opt out of SS I will do so tomorrow.

18 posted on 12/17/2004 8:45:47 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Ditto
The 29% of those under 30 who say no have me worried. Are there that many stupid young people? It's a no-brainer for anyone under 45 years of age.

I would guess that's from people who don't understand how SS works. I'd imagine that it's from folks who think that the money they pay into SS is *theirs,* rather than being used to pay current SS recipients.

Just a guess.

19 posted on 12/17/2004 8:46:05 AM PST by Terabitten (Proud member of the Free Republic wolfpack)
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To: Phantom Lord
"The biggest problem facing SS reform is AARP"

AARP was bought and sold years ago. The sooner their members realize that, the sooner we can get a huge block of voters back on board with the common sense train.
20 posted on 12/17/2004 8:46:54 AM PST by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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