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Mom ousted for taping gay acceptance `lies' (Forced off property at High School Gay Awareness Day)
The Boston Herald ^ | Thursday, December 16, 2004 | Jessica Fargen

Posted on 12/16/2004 10:05:07 AM PST by presidio9

Two parents, shocked at frank talk during a gay and lesbian awareness day at Newton North High, were forced off the property after one parent whipped out a video camera and started taping.

``This does not belong in curriculum,'' said Kim Cariani, who said four police officers and the principal told them they would be charged with trespassing if they did not leave.

``It's against my religion. It's morally wrong and forced in a child's face.''

Each year, some students at Newton North forgo classes during To BGLAD: Transgender, Bisexual, Gay and Lesbian Awareness Day with assembly-like sessions including ``Out at the Old Ballgame'' and ``Color Me Queer.'' Students are not required to attend.

Cariani kept her two kids home during the day, but she was curious.

Cariani and another parent, Brian Camenker, were in the audience when adults in a panel discussion talked about being gay. When one man told the students he was attracted to his sister's husband, Cariani said she started to record the ``propaganda, false information and lies.''

The principal demanded Cariani turn over the videotape or leave, Camenker said.

``They took the two of us and pulled us out and gave us one minute to leave and if we came back on the property we would be arrested for trespassing,'' he said.

Tom Mountain, a columnist for the Newton Tab, was also barred from the assembly ``for the safety and security of the children,'' he said he was told.

Newton schools Superintendent Jeff Young said it is a violation of school policy to tape or photograph students without parental permission. Cariani refused to give up the tape, so they were asked to decamp, he said.

The awareness day, held for the past 10 years, is one of several ways the schools highlight diversity, Young said. Students who don't want to go can go to the library or computer lab.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: article8; briancamenker; diversity; education; educrats; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; pc; pedophilia; recruitment; sexliesand; students; thegaystate; tolerance; videotape
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To: MineralMan

Lets see...going to a place built with your tax dollars to see what is happening and its ok to run them off??

Wonder if she was filming a basketball game in the gym if that would be different??


101 posted on 12/16/2004 10:45:19 AM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Modernman
I'm curious as to how the people running this event could have known she was opposed to the program?

Probably a lot, I'll bet she's made a number of stinks before.

102 posted on 12/16/2004 10:45:48 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along)
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To: Travis McGee

A gay day at school? Kids took class time to do this? Yeah, I'm really surprised why some parents might be upset about this.

If the story is accurate, then clearly the parents were treated badly.

However, there could be much more to this story (and I suspect there is). Brian Camenker...is that the same Brian Camenker of the Parents Rights Coalition? He is an anti-gay activist. I would love to see the video they took...anyone have a link?


103 posted on 12/16/2004 10:46:26 AM PST by Electrowoman
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To: nothingnew

"MineralMan (godless atheist) is not goimg to listen to reason. I would guess he is an uber-libertarian.
Am I right, MineralMan?

"

Nope. Not right. Reason requires information. The parents in this case were in attendance. Had they stayed through the entire program, we might have some information to work with.

The single thing that was said in the article as an example is that some gay man said that he was attracted to his sister's husband. I'm sure that happens. Did he make advances toward him? I don't know, because there's no information. The fact that there was an attraction is meaningless. It's what's not in the article that is real information.

Give me information and I'll reason with it. Without information about this particular program, I don't have a solid opinion about whether it was good or bad.


104 posted on 12/16/2004 10:48:53 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Ellesu
...will make students feel good about homosexuality, bisexuality and transgenderism.

What a stomach-turning, vomit-erupting pile of filthy garbage this is!

How can these weasels be allowed to push their evil, satan-inspired lifestyle on innocents?

Their homosexual agenda is all about buggery, ingesting feces and never having to explain that the vast majority of serial killers are homosexuals and some eat their bunkmates after they've completed what they call sexual relations.

They die young and, unless they've truly repented, without being in a state of grace and destined to a fiery eternity.

How these degenerates can look themselves in a mirror without barfing is beyond most of us.

105 posted on 12/16/2004 10:49:20 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: Rodney King
Probably a lot, I'll bet she's made a number of stinks before.

Or she got disruptive at this event.

This article leaves a lot of blanks, IMHO.

106 posted on 12/16/2004 10:49:29 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: presidio9

They need to quit pissing and moaning at the socialist curriculum of the school and withdraw their kids into a private school. Let the damn government schools self-destruct.


107 posted on 12/16/2004 10:49:39 AM PST by hardhead ("Curly, if you say it's a fine morning, I'll shoot you!" - John Wayne, McLintock 1963)
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To: Gabz

I pray that this crap doesn't find its way here. I love our schools and the people that run them and teach in them. There are a few, very few, liberals who spout the liberal mantra from time to time but even the students here, some as young as my own daughter, and, she has been one of them tp to do so, lol. My 11 year old daughter debated her liberal art teacher during the election after a discussion developed and she won hands down or so I have been told. Then again my daughter DOES have those debating skills (read arguing) perfected to a tee. As her mother I can vouch for that. I can picture her (young & childless) art teacher standing there with her mouth hanging open as Katie ripped into her because I know my daughter and know that she can be mercilessly unrelenting when she has a point to prove. The funniest part of Katie relaying the event to me was her saying that she told all of her friends that they could know what was going on in the world if they would "just think for themselves and watch FOX news instead of CNN".


108 posted on 12/16/2004 10:49:59 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: TheBigB

My taxes fund the girls locker room, and I have every right to be there dammit!


109 posted on 12/16/2004 10:50:17 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Semper Paratus

You know, at a University level, there is a lot more latitude in my opinion. I am a devout Conservative Christian who believes that free will means the right to make bad moral choices.

However, in this circumstance the final responsibility of what children hear and are taught should be the parents. If the parents, and taxpayers of the school district, do not want their children taught what is being taught, then they should have every right to examine the curriculum and make their informed opinions known. What offends me most isn't that this "assembly" went on, but that the school officials have determined to not allow parents and taxpayers the information to make an informed decision on what is being taught.


110 posted on 12/16/2004 10:50:25 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Modernman
Presumably, the kids who were there had their parents' permission to attend, so I'm not sure why she thinks she should be butting in.

Maybe she was concerned that the kids might be lead in a prayer. That would change your mind on this issue in a nanosecond.

111 posted on 12/16/2004 10:50:46 AM PST by Skooz (The "holiday" has a name.)
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To: TheBigB

National security vs. visiting a school assembly, not classes, to learn about what kids are being taught in her district. Good argument. [SAR. off] I suppose this assembly included detailed analysis of what information was being supplied to the children of paying customers.


112 posted on 12/16/2004 10:50:48 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: presidio9
Newton North High

No Christmas pageant in this hell-hole!

113 posted on 12/16/2004 10:51:15 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: Rodney King

Of course not but, you can have 25 or even more parents volunteering in different capacities daily making their presence known. In my daughter's school this is not uncommon.


114 posted on 12/16/2004 10:51:49 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Skooz
Maybe she was concerned that the kids might be lead in a prayer. That would change your mind on this issue in a nanosecond.

If school officials were leading the prayer? Sure, I'd be opposed to tax dollars being used for that.

115 posted on 12/16/2004 10:52:11 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: MineralMan
Give me information and I'll reason with it.

The information is that children are being taught that doing the bonedance with mr.sphincter is OK. What more frikkin information do you need, oh godless one?

FMCDH(BITS)

116 posted on 12/16/2004 10:52:39 AM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: cvq3842
I wonder what would happen if they had a "be proud of your heterosexuality day"

At my high school, we called it "the Prom."
117 posted on 12/16/2004 10:52:41 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: MineralMan
Her kids weren't even there.

But, her tax dollars were. We all have a right to see how our money is being spent.

118 posted on 12/16/2004 10:53:09 AM PST by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Modernman
If school officials were leading the prayer? Sure, I'd be opposed to tax dollars being used for that.

But using our tax dollars to teach children the virtues of butt sex and fisting is a-ok.

119 posted on 12/16/2004 10:53:27 AM PST by Skooz (The "holiday" has a name.)
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To: MineralMan
If it went beyond the line, then I'd have made my unhappiness heard, with the support of my notes.

What if they had ejected you for taking notes and threatened to bring trespassing charges against you? What if you had shook your head in disagreement and they had done likewise? What if you were unable to attend due to prior responsibilities and had wanted to know what it was all about?

The closing of information to parents and taxpayers while allowing minors to attend is unacceptable. The forbidding of videotaping a public meeting on public property is unacceptable.

120 posted on 12/16/2004 10:53:57 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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