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Oil prices continue to fall
AP and Reuters ^ | 2 December 2004 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 12/02/2004 5:58:03 AM PST by roaddog727

LONDON - Crude oil futures fell below $45 a barrel Thursday, after surprisingly healthy U.S. inventory data eased fears about a supply crunch over the Northern Hemisphere winter.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: commoditiesmarket; economy; energyprices; oil; stockmarket; thebusheconomy
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Drop oil, drop.........
1 posted on 12/02/2004 5:58:03 AM PST by roaddog727
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To: roaddog727

Should co-post to the "Just Damn" thread.


2 posted on 12/02/2004 6:02:19 AM PST by Semper Paratus (Michael)
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To: Semper Paratus

Good point, and accurate sentiment.

JUST DAMN!


3 posted on 12/02/2004 6:04:42 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: roaddog727

" after surprisingly healthy U.S. inventory data eased fears"

I wonder how the inventory turned out to be "suprisingly healthy"? Could it be because G.W. ignored calls by certian democRATS to tap into the reserves?


4 posted on 12/02/2004 6:08:39 AM PST by zygoat
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To: zygoat

I suspect the old Price/Quantity demanded graph would be in order to explain part of our current oil stocks.


5 posted on 12/02/2004 6:10:22 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: roaddog727; BOBTHENAILER; SierraWasp; Southack; Liz; Shermy; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for posting this.



"LONDON - Crude oil futures fell below $45 a barrel Thursday, after surprisingly healthy U.S. inventory data eased fears about a supply crunch over the Northern Hemisphere winter."

Typical AP and Reuters reporting. We never had a shortage of oil in the US during the George $oreA$$ hijacking of the oil price.

Also, there is no shortage of oil in the world. There is a glut of enviral whackos, left wingers, and vile Opecker Princes/Thugs.


6 posted on 12/02/2004 6:18:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans Articles = GIM=GAY INFECTED MEDIOTS!)
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To: zygoat

So prices rose, and consumption dropped;

imagine that!

Suppose we could base some sort of economic theory on this sort of behavior?


7 posted on 12/02/2004 6:19:28 AM PST by McClintock
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To: McClintock

Naw...


8 posted on 12/02/2004 6:21:43 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: roaddog727

I seriously hope that the DOJ, the SEC, and Interpol are conducting investigations into how the price of oil was manipulated before the election and by whom. The name George Soros comes to mind. A long prison term plus government confiscation of his massive ill gotten gains (ask Koreans or Indonesians about his calculated destruction of their currencies and economies back in '97) are entirely warranted.


9 posted on 12/02/2004 6:25:14 AM PST by katana
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To: roaddog727

C'mon, see that 35 down there, oil? Keep heading in the same direction...


10 posted on 12/02/2004 6:36:57 AM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: zygoat

Supply and demand. Price was up so people used less. Inventories are published every Wednesday by the DOE and this week's build was big.


11 posted on 12/02/2004 6:55:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: zygoat
"I wonder how the inventory turned out to be "suprisingly healthy"? Could it be because G.W. ignored calls by certian democRATS to tap into the reserves?"

"Inventory" is different from "reserves". Inventory is what is held by distributors. Reserves refers to the strategic oil reserve. They have nothing in common and Bushes refusal to tap into the reserves would not affect distributors inventories.
12 posted on 12/02/2004 7:54:17 AM PST by monday
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The real trigger is likely to be found in China. Like with China Aviation Oil lost millions in derivatives :
Singapore financial markets were jolted yesterday after a Chinese jet-fuel supplier listed in the city-state said it had racked up US$550 million in losses on derivative trades and was seeking protection from its creditors.

China Aviation Oil, whose shares have been suspended since Monday, said late Tuesday it was facing a "financial crisis," and had suspended chief executive Chen Jiulin while accountants PricewaterhouseCoopers investigated what went wrong.

In other news, the CEO has fled to mainland China

It looks strongly like Chinese interests were behind the pre-electione runup in oil prices, and could no longer maintain the upward price pressure

13 posted on 12/02/2004 8:22:11 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: RockinRight

"C'mon, see that 35 down there, oil? Keep heading in the same direction..."

Personally, I'de like to see it stay around $29 +/-.

Expensive enough to continue research, cheap enough to provide for affordable fuel - IMHO


14 posted on 12/02/2004 9:09:27 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: roaddog727

I'm with you but a NYT story said world incomes have increased by 6% in past year, this alone will increase oil sales and keep them around 35. my opinion as a reader not a trader


15 posted on 12/02/2004 9:25:03 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a

Only time will tell......


16 posted on 12/02/2004 9:49:17 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Below $43 now.


17 posted on 12/02/2004 10:51:19 AM PST by Shermy
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To: SauronOfMordor
"China Aviation Oil lost millions in derivatives"

Typically, aviation firms are in danger from oil prices going higher, so they purchase derivative hedges. Should oil go up, those hedges make very, very large profits. Those profits then offset the firm's more expensive oil purchases.

But, China Aviation lost enormous amounts of money on hedges while oil went up, indicating that whatever they were doing, it wasn't the typical anti-oil hedge in use by normal aviation firms.

That's a red flag.

18 posted on 12/02/2004 10:54:31 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: roaddog727

Great... but I just paid $1.94 at the QT last night for Plus Unleaded. Oh well....


19 posted on 12/02/2004 10:57:08 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: roaddog727

I enjoyed paying 79 cents a gallon in 1998. Is that like $20 a barrel? If so, I'll put my vote in for that.


20 posted on 12/02/2004 11:02:41 AM PST by mysterio
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