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The Last Crusade Of The Templars
Times Of London ^ | 11-29-2004 | Ruth Gledhill

Posted on 11/29/2004 2:57:11 PM PST by blam

The last crusade of the Templars

By Ruth Gledhill

The knights want a Papal apology nearly 700 years after they were disbanded and hounded into exile

THE VATICAN is giving “serious consideration” to apologising for the persecution that led to the suppression of the Knights Templar.

The suppression, which began on Friday , October 13, 1307, gave Friday the Thirteenth its superstitious legacy.

A Templar Order in Britain that claims to be descended from the original Knights Templar has asked that the Pope should make the apology.

The Templars, based in Hertford, are hoping for an apology by 2007, the 700th anniversary of the start of the persecution, which culminated with the torture and burning at the stake of the Grand Master Jacques de Molay for heresy and the dissolution of the Order by apostolic decree in 1312.

The letter, signed by the Secretary of the Council of Chaplains on behalf of the Grand Master of the Poor Fellow Soldiers of Jesus Christ and the Temple of Solomon Grand Preceptory, with a PO box address in Hertford, formally requests an apology “for the torture and murder of our leadership”, instigated by Pope Clement V.

“We shall witness the 700th anniversary of the persecution of our order on 13th October 2007,” the letter says. “It would be just and fitting for the Vatican to acknowledge our grievance in advance of this day of mourning.”

Apologies have already been made by the Roman Catholic Church for the persecution of Galileo and for the Crusades. The Templars hope that these precedents will make their suit more likely to succeed.

Hertford Templar Tim Acheson, who is descended from the Scottish Acheson family that has established Templar links and whose family lived until recently in Bailey Hall, Hertford, said: “This letter is a serious attempt by a Templar group which traces its roots back to the medieval Order to solicit an apology from the Papacy.”

He added: “The Papacy and the Kingdom of France conspired to destroy the Order for reasons which modern historians judge to be primarily political. Their methods and motives are now universally regarded as brutal, unfair and unjustified.

“The Knights Templar officially ceased to exist in the early 1300s, but the order continued underground. It was a huge organisation and the vast majority of Templars survived the persecution, including most of their leaders, along with much of their treasure and, most importantly, their original values and traditions.”

The Hertford Mercury newspaper has reported newly discovered Templar links with Hertford, including a warren of tunnels beneath the town. At the heart of the maze of tunnels is Hertford Castle, where in 1309 four Templars from Temple Dinsley near Hitchin were imprisoned after their arrest by Edward II, who believed that they were holding a lost treasure. The treasure was never found.

When Subterranea Britannica, a group of amateur archaeologists, expressed an interest in investigating Hertford’s tunnels last month, they received anonymous threats telling them not to.

The Templars captured Jerusalem during the Crusades and were known as “keepers of the Holy Grail”, said to be the cup used at the Last Supper or as the receptacle used by Joseph of Arimathea to catch Christ’s blood as he bled on the Cross, or both.

Interest in the Templars and the Holy Grail is at an unprecedented high after the success of books such as The Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown, and the earlier Holy Blood Holy Grail, by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln, which claimed that Jesus survived the crucifixion and settled in France.

The Knights Templar were founded by Hugh de Payens, a French knight from the Champagne area of Burgundy, and eight companions in 1118 during the reign of Baldwin II of Jerusalem, when they took a perpetual vow to defend the Christian kingdom. They were assigned quarters next to the Temple. In 1128, they took up the white habit of the Cistercians, adding a red cross. The order knights, sergeants, farmers and chaplains amassed enormous wealth.

In Rome, a Vatican spokesman said that the demand for an apology would be given “serious consideration”. However, Vatican insiders said that the Pope, 84, was under pressure from conservative cardinals to “stop saying sorry” for the errors of the past, after a series of papal apologies for the Crusades, the Inquisition, Christian anti-Semitism and the persecution of scientists and “heretics” such as Galileo.


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1 posted on 11/29/2004 2:57:12 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 11/29/2004 2:57:41 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The Never Ending Search (For the Holy Grail)


3 posted on 11/29/2004 3:01:06 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

ping


4 posted on 11/29/2004 3:01:29 PM PST by investigateworld (( . ))
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To: blam
The Never Ending Search (For the Holy Grail)


5 posted on 11/29/2004 3:01:32 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Puhleeze. The Templars were initially a very good, completely orthodox order. Some of them - not all, by any means - seem to have started dabbling in things ranging from the occult to homosexuality. It's unfortunate that the whole order had to be suppressed, but many orders have been suppressed in the life of the Church, some for heterodoxy and some simply because they had outlived their usefulness. With the Templars, it was a bit of both.

In any case, the Templars gave rise to a whole Masonic wing and to lots of New Age books, so why should their self-proclaimed heirs complain? Nowadays, the Templars are more popular than orthodox Catholicism.


6 posted on 11/29/2004 3:04:15 PM PST by livius
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


7 posted on 11/29/2004 3:04:17 PM PST by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: blam; humblegunner; SeaDragon

Templar ping


8 posted on 11/29/2004 3:05:37 PM PST by RikaStrom
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To: NYer; Aquinasfan; Land of the Irish; narses; thor76; maryz; Salvation; saradippity; ELS; dsc; ...

Church article ping.


9 posted on 11/29/2004 3:05:44 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: blam

The article, however, does not say they are asking for an apology for the disbanding of the order due to heresy, but “for the torture and murder of our leadership” . . .

In any case: Praise is due to the early Crusader Templars. PC or not. ;)


10 posted on 11/29/2004 3:07:22 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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I think most Templar descendants would argue that the church spread rumors about their participation in the occult or homosexuality to justify their cruel treatment.
11 posted on 11/29/2004 3:07:50 PM PST by Galena Nevada
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To: livius

"Templars are more popular than orthodox Catholicism"

agree with everything but the above from your comment.

There is a Romance assoc. with the Templars, because of the Grail and Arthurian legends. But I see no sign that they are about to overcome the Holy Roman Catholic Church. ;)


12 posted on 11/29/2004 3:09:27 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: livius
Since neither Pope John Paul II, a native of Poland, nor any of the living Catholic heirs of the Bourbon or Capetian dynasties had anything to do with the trials and executions in the 14th-century, asking them to offer an "apology" is a little absurd. It would be like asking Prince Charles, Queen Elizabeth, or Tony Blair to "apologize" for the outrages and terrorism of Henry VIII and Oliver Cromwell.

Interesting article though...

13 posted on 11/29/2004 3:10:42 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: blam

"settled in France"....Dang....


14 posted on 11/29/2004 3:11:13 PM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: Galena Nevada

"I think most Templar descendants would argue that the church spread rumors about their participation in the occult or homosexuality"

well, they can argue that . . .

but when there is truth to the charge, it is not merely "rumor."


15 posted on 11/29/2004 3:11:55 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: blam

700 YEARS! Get over it, already...and get a real life - preferably not one that requires KKK costumes.


16 posted on 11/29/2004 3:13:00 PM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: livius

Double Puhleeze. The Templar founders were adventurers and opportunists. The Church and Crusades were where the action was. They were "suppressed", as you put, it because the Pope and certain European royalty were afraid of the financial empire the Templars were creating.


17 posted on 11/29/2004 3:13:18 PM PST by MagnumRancid
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To: blam
A Templar Order in Britain that claims to be descended from the original Knights Templar has asked that the Pope should make the apology.

LOL!

There are no Templars.

These whack-jobs are just playing dress-up.

18 posted on 11/29/2004 3:13:28 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

" It would be like asking Prince Charles, Queen Elizabeth, or Tony Blair to "apologize" for the outrages and terrorism of Henry VIII and Oliver Cromwell. "

EXCELLENT idea! Or if not apologize, at least allow the appropriate tarnishing of their images in history lessons . . . ;)


19 posted on 11/29/2004 3:13:35 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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"...The Knights Templar were founded by Hugh de Payens, a French knight from the Champagne area of Burgundy ..."


This is hugh! The Knights were getting stuned on champagne and burgundy...


20 posted on 11/29/2004 3:13:45 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Sentimentality is loving people more than God would." --Oscar Wilde)
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