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Another twist in Chai Vang killing spree

Posted on 11/24/2004 7:45:29 AM PST by whodeani

Homicide connection explored Sunday's shooting has similarities to a 2001 killing 80 miles away

By JOHN DIEDRICH jdiedrich@journalsentinel.com Posted: Nov. 23, 2004

Law enforcement agencies are investigating if the man suspected of killing six deer hunters and injuring two others was involved in the unsolved slaying of a deer hunter three years ago in a nearby Wisconsin county, a detective said Tuesday.

Clark County Sheriff's Department Detective Kerry Kirn said he has exchanged frequent calls with investigators in Sawyer County since Monday morning.

"I can tell you we have been in contact with authorities from Sawyer County to address that," Kirn said. "It is premature to speculate if there is a connection."

On Nov. 23, 2001, Jim Southworth was shot to death as he hunted on family land 10 miles east of Neillsville in one of the only other homicides ever to be linked to Wisconsin's deer hunting season.

Southworth was shot twice in the back and both bullets exited his chest, an autopsy found.

Witnesses reported a pickup truck with three men inside on a road near where Southworth's body was found, about 80 miles south of Sunday's shooting.

The three men were described as Asian from 5-foot-4-inches to 6-feet. They were driving a silver or gray Nissan or Chevrolet pickup truck, possibly a late 1980s model with a light-colored fiberglass topper.

Chai Soua Vang, 36, of St. Paul, Minn., who is suspected of shooting eight hunters Sunday, is 5-foot-4-inches, according to a court document. Vang has owned a 1987 Nissan pickup, according to an online search service. According to court records, Vang allegedly shot several of Sunday's victims in the back.

The Sawyer County rampage was allegedly sparked by a dispute over Vang using a deer stand on private property. One of the theories Clark County authorities have been pursuing is that Southworth was shot after confronting a trespasser.

Officials said that Vang was hunting with two other people on Sunday, before he became lost and wandered onto the private property. Police are looking for those other people.

Vang did have an out-of-state license to hunt in Wisconsin in 2001, said Mike Bartz, a Department of Natural Resources warden manager. He also had a license in 2000, 2002 and this year, he said.

Kirn called the three people being sought in Southworth's murder "persons of interest."

"To our knowledge, those are the only three people who we haven't identified who were in that area that day," Kirn said.

Kirn said he could not comment on whether Vang has been or will be questioned in the Southworth case. Investigators from the state Department of Justice are investigating both cases, he said.

"They need to do their investigation and when all facts come out, and they will relay that to me, and we'll make the comparison," Kirn said.

The Sawyer County Sheriff's Department, the first to respond to Sunday's shooting, referred questions to the Department of Justice. A spokesman there declined to comment on whether a connection was being investigated between the two cases.

Told of the two cases, a retired FBI agent said his experience tells him that they could very well be related.

"The odds of the two being unrelated are astronomical, I would say," said Bob Dwyer, who now works as a private investigator in Florida.

But an absence of physical evidence in the 2001 case could make it difficult to prove such a connection, Dwyer said. The best way to tie two crimes together is to match weapons or bullets, he said.

Kirn declined to comment on what kind of gun was used to kill Southworth or if they recovered bullets in the woods where he was shot. A warden said last year that investigators were looking for casings.

The hunting rifle Southworth was carrying - a Ruger model 77 bolt action .03-06-caliber - was missing.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/nov04/278124.asp


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hmong; hunters; murderedhunters; murderer; ricelake; vang; wihunters; wisconsin
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1 posted on 11/24/2004 7:45:29 AM PST by whodeani
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To: whodeani
Another twist in Chai Vang killing spree

Let me guess. One of the hunters threw a cup of beer in his face.

2 posted on 11/24/2004 7:48:06 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: whodeani

Truly stunning. And I'm not joking.


3 posted on 11/24/2004 7:48:21 AM PST by rabidralph (That melon is for display purposes only.)
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To: whodeani

Nail the murderous SOB, LEOs!


4 posted on 11/24/2004 7:49:15 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: whodeani
Probably.

Guy is a psycho. Hopefully "is" will soon be "was".

Does WI have the death penalty?

5 posted on 11/24/2004 7:49:50 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: whodeani
The three men were described as Asian from 5-foot-4-inches to 6-feet. They were driving a silver or gray Nissan or Chevrolet pickup truck, possibly a late 1980s model with a light-colored fiberglass topper.

Chai Soua Vang, 36, of St. Paul, Minn., who is suspected of shooting eight hunters Sunday, is 5-foot-4-inches, according to a court document. Vang has owned a 1987 Nissan pickup, according to an online search service. According to court records, Vang allegedly shot several of Sunday's victims in the back.

All I can say is wow.

6 posted on 11/24/2004 7:50:07 AM PST by Petronski (New York London Paris Munich Ev'rybody Talk About Mmm Pop Music)
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To: whodeani

Forget morons like Scott Peterson and Hacking. This is one murder investigation and trial I'll be following. Promises to be a racially tinged circus.


7 posted on 11/24/2004 7:50:22 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Iowa Granny; Northern Yankee

ping


8 posted on 11/24/2004 7:51:36 AM PST by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: whodeani

His family are insisting the hunters must have been at fault, the media chanting "assault weapon, assault weapon", the left in general says our society did it...the reaction is as sickening and sensless as the crimes.


9 posted on 11/24/2004 7:51:36 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: whodeani

This guy is a cold blooded murderer. If it's true that he shot some of them in the back he should be hanging already.


10 posted on 11/24/2004 7:51:46 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: tallhappy
Does WI have the death penalty?

No death penalty.

11 posted on 11/24/2004 7:52:32 AM PST by sistergoldenhair
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To: whodeani

Hey, Violence Policy Center, Soros, Brady Bunch, et al., don't forget to blame the gun.


12 posted on 11/24/2004 7:53:22 AM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: dennisw

Greta will have another good year of ra(n)tings.......


13 posted on 11/24/2004 7:53:49 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: tallhappy
Does WI have the death penalty?

Negatory, good buddy. I get to feed and house this piece of crap (from Minnesota, nonetheless) for the rest of his life.

14 posted on 11/24/2004 7:54:20 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: sistergoldenhair

Yes, it does. You are forced to eat cheese until your arteries solidify......


15 posted on 11/24/2004 7:55:03 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: whodeani

bump


16 posted on 11/24/2004 7:55:23 AM PST by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: Red Badger

Let me guess; no hate crime enhancer talk from our friends on the left for this guy.


17 posted on 11/24/2004 7:55:47 AM PST by whodeani
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To: whodeani

I wonder where he went in 2002 and 2003.


18 posted on 11/24/2004 7:56:20 AM PST by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: whodeani

bump for later


20 posted on 11/24/2004 7:57:26 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT (From the Land of Liberalty. All we are saying is give pizza chants.)
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