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What a maroon.

Anybody got a pic of the Columbine boys, a glaring example of what really happens when you remove proper discipline from public schools?

1 posted on 11/22/2004 3:06:01 PM PST by Houmatt
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To: Houmatt
Research also suggests that punitive responses to student misbehaviors are associated with worsening behavior, not its deterrence.

Yeah right. Maybe we should throw people a party as a punishment. That'll stop 'em.

2 posted on 11/22/2004 3:08:35 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along)
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To: Houmatt

This is the same approach the Leftists want us to take with the terrorists - don't rattle their cages or they'll really get nasty.

This guy is a prime example of the crap (I'm sorry, that's what it is) being taught in our universities. I work for a major university, so I know of what I speak. Fortunately, I'm in the hard sciences.


3 posted on 11/22/2004 3:10:42 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: The Mayor

pingarooni


4 posted on 11/22/2004 3:11:33 PM PST by Houmatt (May all of you Freepers have a happy and safe Thanksgiving. Much love to all of you.)
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Assistant Professor, University at Buffalo School of Social Work

I was half-way through this letter when I realized someone was using $64,000 words, got paid by the word, and was saying absolutely nothing except, "something else needs to be done, but don't look to me for answers." Ahhhhh, professor of social work! Whoda thunk?!

5 posted on 11/22/2004 3:11:37 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Houmatt

When God was taken out of schools, then so was discipline!!


6 posted on 11/22/2004 3:11:47 PM PST by GOPologist
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Maybe if these discipline problems had "effective" parents the schools wouldn't need to find alternative methods.


7 posted on 11/22/2004 3:15:10 PM PST by finallyatexan
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To: Houmatt

My suggestion for violent youth: Enlist them in the Marines and let them enjoy some real discipline. If that doesn't work, send them off to a"military" youth camp in the desert for about a year. That experience might alter their minds for the better. Rush thinks that much of the problem with the NBA and the young people that are violent is the hip hop culture gone mad.


8 posted on 11/22/2004 3:17:41 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: Houmatt

They should issue these to teachers.

9 posted on 11/22/2004 3:19:31 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Houmatt

This person lives in a fantasyland.


10 posted on 11/22/2004 3:22:18 PM PST by technomage
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Gee, I thought zero-tolerance was supposed to take care of everything.


12 posted on 11/22/2004 3:31:01 PM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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This guy doesn't think "the cause of the problem of school violence resided entirely with the students"

Oh my God! Who would have thought the students were the problem??? Apparently personal responsibility isn't something this over educated dweeb seems to value. I think he has read one too many "studies" to know what the hell he's talking about.

13 posted on 11/22/2004 3:32:50 PM PST by Wonderama ("America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy"....John Updike)
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To: Houmatt; BfloGuy; Bob Eimiller; bc2; bauerle; brownie; birdsman; Bonneville; commish; crosdaddy; ...
YUP! More brilliance from the barffalo educated elite.
15 posted on 11/22/2004 3:37:46 PM PST by The Mayor (Salvation is not turning over a new leaf, but receiving a new life.)
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To: Houmatt

Standard Lefty "not my faultism."


17 posted on 11/22/2004 3:40:59 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Democrat credo: If we win, we win: if we lose it is theft!)
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"Buffalo School of Social Work"

That says all you need to know!

But I will nonetheless add that the letter-writer is very vague about what would actually work to correct the behavior of the perps.


19 posted on 11/22/2004 3:50:07 PM PST by docbnj
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I would suggest that the discipline was not only missing in the school, but also in the homes of those Columbine students. Alot of parents seem to think that society should raise their children for them.
20 posted on 11/22/2004 4:20:19 PM PST by brooklin
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To: Houmatt

I agree that this guy resides in the clouds of the school of social work and has next to zero knowledge of what really goes on in the classroom. He is coming at the problem from the left and does not address the role of screwy teachers and administrators...and let's not forget the parents who for the most part are non existent or less than quality parental material.

BUT...

Teachers and administrators are also responsible for this out of control behavior. They award passing grades and other goodies for barely tolerable behavior. They regularly provide positive feedback for less than adequate academic performance and they expect less than mediocre work from kids who do have the ability to perform better.

The unions and the leftist educationist establishment have made a mess of public schools and no amount of punishment is going to fix that!


21 posted on 11/22/2004 5:22:19 PM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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Beat their @sses!

Bring back the REAL "Board of Education"!

"Time-outs" are a joke, and getting sent to the principal's office to sit by yourself for an hour or two means NOTHING.

My kids (11, 9, 7, and 4) know that if they get in trouble at school (no such thing as a "paddling" around here), the fur is going to fly at the house. So, they almost never (once a school year each, at most) cause trouble during class, lunch, or recess.

Something about "Spare the rod and spoil the child" in there somewhere.

22 posted on 11/22/2004 7:49:55 PM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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