Posted on 11/22/2004 3:06:00 PM PST by Houmatt
(A Letter to The Editor that I read yesterday:)
I am very sympathetic with Buffalo school teachers' concerns for their safety. However, I am concerned about the way in which school violence is described. In describing recent incidents at Lafayette High, the teachers, school officials and BTF President Phil Rumore all appeared to suggest that the cause of the problem of school violence resided entirely with the students involved in incidents or in disciplinary measures that are inadequately punitive and exclusionary. While students who act out aggressively are often troubled youths, research suggests that the "answers" sought by school officials regarding student violence must also include an examination of school environmental factors and problems in teacher, administrator and student relationships. Research also suggests that punitive responses to student misbehaviors are associated with worsening behavior, not its deterrence.
I agree that some students would benefit from counseling, but perhaps schools need a sort of counseling as well. Schools' over-reliance on punitive and exclusionary discipline is a simplistic solution that often creates oppositional "anti-heroes" of students, making teachers, other students and schools less safe. Effective alternative approaches to traditional disciplinary practices should be tried in schools with severe student misconduct.
Mark Cameron
Assistant Professor, University
at Buffalo School of Social Work
Anybody got a pic of the Columbine boys, a glaring example of what really happens when you remove proper discipline from public schools?
Yeah right. Maybe we should throw people a party as a punishment. That'll stop 'em.
This is the same approach the Leftists want us to take with the terrorists - don't rattle their cages or they'll really get nasty.
This guy is a prime example of the crap (I'm sorry, that's what it is) being taught in our universities. I work for a major university, so I know of what I speak. Fortunately, I'm in the hard sciences.
pingarooni
I was half-way through this letter when I realized someone was using $64,000 words, got paid by the word, and was saying absolutely nothing except, "something else needs to be done, but don't look to me for answers." Ahhhhh, professor of social work! Whoda thunk?!
When God was taken out of schools, then so was discipline!!
Maybe if these discipline problems had "effective" parents the schools wouldn't need to find alternative methods.
My suggestion for violent youth: Enlist them in the Marines and let them enjoy some real discipline. If that doesn't work, send them off to a"military" youth camp in the desert for about a year. That experience might alter their minds for the better. Rush thinks that much of the problem with the NBA and the young people that are violent is the hip hop culture gone mad.
They should issue these to teachers.
This person lives in a fantasyland.
Bingo. My boys knew that if they got into trouble at school that whatever discipline they received there WAS the sweet an sensitive alternative punishment.
Gee, I thought zero-tolerance was supposed to take care of everything.
Oh my God! Who would have thought the students were the problem??? Apparently personal responsibility isn't something this over educated dweeb seems to value. I think he has read one too many "studies" to know what the hell he's talking about.
So, not only should we blame Usher for the kids actions, we should train them to kill as a form of dicipline?
Standard Lefty "not my faultism."
This is to good to pass up.
Esmonde has been on a roll against albany..
COMMENTARY
Albany 'zoo' best place for our animals
11/22/2004
By DONN ESMONDE
The zoo is in trouble. It needs our help.
Porcupines and pythons are caught in the vise between the red budget and the green. Backed into their pens by politics, wildlife from big cats to small otters are prepping for moving day.
A red-budget red alert was sent by Buffalo Zoo head Donna Fernandes. County Executive Joel Giambra's proposed scorched-earth, worst-case county budget proposal takes $1.4 million out of their food dish. The four-legged creatures can't wait until the two-legged political animals settle their turf wars. A Noah's Ark of beasts may soon be departing.
Forget about sending the creatures to other zoos. Ship them instead to the biggest "zoo" in the state: Albany. Let them mark their territory where it will do some good, where every steaming pile sends a message.
The exotic animals are victims of Albany's failure to clean its cage. The budget crisis was spawned by huge hikes in Medicaid, health care for the poor. Its costs are set by the state but partly paid by the county. The chickens are coming home to roost. The state Capitol is the perfect nest.
The beasts can replace the bureaucrats. It costs $1 million a year for the care and feeding of a single state lawmaker. In return, an all-but-powerless human herd follows their party leader. Replace them with a real herd. It would cost us less and deliver more.
The prowling tigers and loping giraffes would make state government suitable for family viewing. No longer would we have to shield the eyes of impressionable children from the horrific spectacle of unrepresentative government. It would be like a day at the zoo.
Instead of numerous staffers catering to each lawmaker, a single keeper could maintain a dozen beasts. The chimps and gorillas could perform all the functions of state legislators: Sit erect, scratch themselves and emit an occasional grunt or screech.
Like human lawmakers, the animals needn't be present to have their votes counted - thus sparing them the trouble of interrupting feeding time to raise an assenting paw. They are more likely than their two-legged counterparts to get the state budget in on time, lest deliberations interfere with mating season.
The charade of do-nothing committees would be replaced by the symbolism of big cats snoozing in the sun. Instead of do-little lawmakers feeding on perks and paychecks like pigs at the trough, there would actually be pigs at the trough. Lawmakers wouldn't have to carve themselves competition-free districts stuffed with friendly voters; the bucks and hyenas would simply mark and dominate turf.
Assemblyman Robin Schimminger, a Town of Tonawanda Democrat, has said people in his district are so loyally Democratic they will "vote for a monkey." Now they'll get the chance.
The arrival of the menagerie might awaken the three-men-in-a-room who run the state. Democratic boss Shelly Silver would better understand the mess we're in when he steps in a pile of buffalo chips in the legislative parking lot. The sight of mountain goats procreating in Empire State Plaza might prompt Republican honcho Joe Bruno to reach for the Medicaid scalpel. Gov. George E. Pataki might stop nibbling at the Medicaid edges when a llama wanders into the executive lunchroom and grazes on his salad.
Best of all, the replacement creatures wouldn't knock on your door come campaign time pretending that they actually do something. Instead of dropping off a pamphlet, they would leave a dropping of a different sort, a pithy reminder of the odoriferous nature of Albany politics.
A herd is a herd, whether it's the two-legged variety or the four-legged. If we have to clear the cages, we ought to send the animals to the proper zoo.
e-mail: desmonde@buffnews.com
"Buffalo School of Social Work"
That says all you need to know!
But I will nonetheless add that the letter-writer is very vague about what would actually work to correct the behavior of the perps.
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