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NBC Says Marine Shot Dead Wounded Iraqi Prisoner
Rooters via Yahho!News ^ | November 15, 2004

Posted on 11/15/2004 3:56:58 PM PST by Kaslin

LONDON (Reuters) - A television pool report by U.S. network NBC said on Monday that a U.S. Marine had shot dead an unarmed and wounded Iraqi prisoner in a mosque in Falluja.

The Iraqi was one of five wounded prisoners left in the mosque after Marines had fought their way in on Friday and Saturday. There was no immediate comment from the Pentagon (news - web sites) on the report.

U.S. forces launched an offensive one week ago on Falluja, and have gained overall control of the formerly rebel-held city, although scattered resistance remains.

The pool report by NBC correspondent Kevin Sites said the mosque had been used by insurgents to attack U.S. forces, who stormed it and an adjacent building, killing 10 militants and wounding the five.

Sites said the wounded had been left in the mosque for others to pick up and move to the rear for treatment. No reason was given why that had not happened.

A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports it had been reoccupied. Footage from the embedded television crew showed the five still in the mosque, although several appeared to be already close to death, Sites said.

He said one Marine noticed one of the prisoners was still breathing.

A Marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters Television: "He's fucking faking he's dead. He faking he's fucking dead."

"The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The pictures are too graphic for us to broadcast," Sites said. No images of the shooting were shown in the footage provided to Reuters.

The report said the Marine, who had returned to duty after being shot in the face a day earlier, had been removed from the field and was being questioned by the U.S. military.

Sites said the shot prisoner "did not appear to be armed or threatening in any way."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fallujah; fallujahmarine; hanoijohnny; ichabodcrane; iraq; kerryssilverstar; lurch; mediawillburninhell; traitorousmedia
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To: Gunrunner2

I would withhold judgment until we find out the immediacy of the event and action, and all the facts.



I completely agree. I'm not going to jump on either bandwagon- the one that says our military can do no wrong- nor the one that says they are always wrong.

There ARE rules of warfare- our soldiers and marines are highly trained in following them.


221 posted on 11/15/2004 4:39:23 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: Neets
Those bastards in the MSM are going to play this for all it's

worth. I hope Rush can counter this asap. I can hardly wait

to see how Hannity deals with it. Than God we have FR.
222 posted on 11/15/2004 4:39:25 PM PST by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: Rik0Shay

Sigh.


223 posted on 11/15/2004 4:39:55 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: PLK
"Also, the FOX News Channel report included the fact that insurgents have been known to fake being injured, and then attack U.S. troops as they moved in closer to assist."

Yes, many of our troops have been killed by men faking surrender, driving ambulances, dressed as Iraqi policemen, shooting from mosques, etc. They violate every principle of warfare, and Chrissy doesn't give a rip.
224 posted on 11/15/2004 4:40:07 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: unspun
Well... our Marines aren't trained as policemen. If the terrorists wanted policemen instead of Marines, they wouldn't murder Iraqi security force recruits. It's their choice.

exactly
225 posted on 11/15/2004 4:40:23 PM PST by boxerblues
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To: PLK

Fox is getting as bad as the rest of the MSM, and I'm furious too. The MSM is as much our enemy as the terrorists.


226 posted on 11/15/2004 4:40:33 PM PST by Texas Deb
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To: PLK

Wel, some have pointed out here, that such summary executions are lawful so why get so exercised about their calling a spade a spade?


227 posted on 11/15/2004 4:40:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: MMkennedy

I saw the video.

The guy looked like he was playing possum. No indication he was wounded. He wasn't a prisoner. He was playing dead among the dead. He could have been hiding a weapon or a bomb waiting for the right moment. As soon as the marines turned their back, who knows what would have happened.

The guy could have surrendered but he decided to play dead....now he is dead.


228 posted on 11/15/2004 4:41:23 PM PST by Galroc
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To: Kaslin

Lets keep this thread alive to make sure they don't burn this warrior in the name of political correctness.


229 posted on 11/15/2004 4:41:26 PM PST by Pointblank
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To: rodguy911

I don't think the media is going to get anywhere with beating this dead horse, no matter how hard they try. The election is over and the peoples have spoken that they support our troops. Just ask the Malboro Marine. LOL


230 posted on 11/15/2004 4:41:34 PM PST by Conservababe (Liberal...One whose mind is so open the brains are spilling out.)
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To: mystery-ak
Watch the video here.
231 posted on 11/15/2004 4:41:37 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Kaslin
If the prisoner fakes being dead, then he has not submitted himself as a prisoner of war--he could be biding his time to strike out at the marines. As such, I suppose he could be considered an active enemy combatant.

I suppose the question becomes whether the insurgent in question was actually seriously wounded to the point that he could not speak up and identify himself as being alive (which would get him medical care from the marines) or whether he was in fact "faking" in order to carry out an attack on the unsuspecting marines.

232 posted on 11/15/2004 4:41:41 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah. So?

Maybe, if German troops had followed the Marine's SOP in the WWII Pacific Island campaigns of shooting every "dead" Jap they found to make sure, Stalingrad would have had a different outcome, too.

No mercy. No prisoners. No more live "insurgents".

Screw the UN; screw Geneva; screw all ideas of "civilized" warfare against the uncivilized.


233 posted on 11/15/2004 4:41:51 PM PST by ApplegateRanch
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To: Kaslin

One shot, one kill. Sounds like an efficient Marine.

These terrorists are killing machines. You stop a killing maching by killing it.

Say hello to Allah, scumbag.


234 posted on 11/15/2004 4:41:51 PM PST by Bryan24
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To: 76834
>>>For all he knew the enemy could have a gun, grenade etc etc.<<<

Remember the first guy to die fighting terrorism in Afghanistan after 9/11? It was Johnny "Mike" Spann. (think I got name right - corrections appreciated).

He died because a wounded Taliban detainees grabbed a grenade off a Northern Alliance soldier and blew himself and Spann up. The Taliban were then able to retake to fort and a 10 day long battle ensued with many good guys killed.

In war - if you are in pitched battle, and there is not a way to neutralize a wounded enemy, you have to terminate with extreme prejudice to protect yourself and your fellow soldiers.

235 posted on 11/15/2004 4:42:03 PM PST by HardStarboard (Surrounded by Kerry/Edwards Signs in Washington State)
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To: rodguy911

It's a bunch of sheeeeeeeet.....these charges need to be countered by the TOP......IMMEDIATELY....


236 posted on 11/15/2004 4:42:19 PM PST by Neets
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To: Alouette
Probably during a similar situation.

Bullets fly all the time over there. How do you know where he got the wound (which must have been superficial or he wouldn't be there, he would be in military hospital)

237 posted on 11/15/2004 4:42:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: ironman
Hardball Outrage: Chris Mathews just said the insurgents weren't the "Bad Guys", they were just "defending their country."

Defend it from free elections - yeah right.

238 posted on 11/15/2004 4:43:05 PM PST by PMCarey
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To: ironman
Hardball Outrage: Chris Mathews just said the insurgents weren't the "Bad Guys", they were just "defending their country."

Barfing over Crissy Matthews' horsesh!t.

The "insurgents" are BAD GUYS. They have kidnapped civilians and murdered them (included a gruesome attack on a blonde woman, suspected of being one of two known kidnapped women). The Geneva Conventions prohibit such practices.

If the men are "defending their country" they why did they come from Sudan and elsewhere? They are striking out territory in Iraq, not speaking out FOR Iraqis.

Iraqis are fighting with us against the terrorists.

If democracy is so wonderful, why doesn't the MSM stand WITH us to ensure that Iraqis can vote for the candidates of their choice? If the "insurgents" are Iraqis, they should be eligible candidates.

These are brutes and thugs and killing is what they deserve as their Satanic death cult prohibits them from converting to another faith.

239 posted on 11/15/2004 4:43:06 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Galroc
Screen shot here:


240 posted on 11/15/2004 4:43:40 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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