Agree 100%.
Me: >We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import.
You: With all respect, and in full agreement with your position on abortion, I would remind you that if we do not will the war against radical Islam, abortion will cease to be an issue for Christians, because all the Christians will be dead.
Abortion is a critically important issue. Survival of us as a people and US as a country is more important, right now!
My Response: With all due respect, no.
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world if he loses his soul?"
The US has to win the War on Terror, there is no doubt about that. Otherwise, a lot of innocent people will die. But 44 million Americans have already died in the Holocaust of Infants. If the Democrats had won and beat a retreat from the Middle East, and exposed us to more terrorist attacks, it would take 15,000 September 11ths to catch up with the death toll of the American Holocaust of Infants.
It would take 400 Hiroshimas to equal the death toll of the American Holocaust of Infants.
It would take 3 Nazi Holocausts, or 13 Auschwitzes, to equal the death toll of the American Holocaust of Infants.
Winning the War on Terror is of enormous importance.
Ending the American Holocaust of Infants is an even greater moral imperative.
Of course, these two necessary ends need not compete.
The Republican Party can lead us to victory in both.
But to win the War on Terror, they have to stay in power in America, and to stay in power in America, they have to use their judicial nominations to put pro-choice judges in the high courts, like they promised us.
The War on Terror will only be in jeopardy of being lost if the Republicans lose control of the American government.
The Republicans are only in danger of losing control of the American government if the pro-life religious vote stays home in the next elections, and the pro-life vote will only stay home if it has been betrayed by the Republicans on the issue of judges.
Therefore, if one is worried about the War on Terror, and believes that the Republicans need to stay in command in order to win it, as I am and do, then one must redouble one's efforts to make sure that the Republicans sweep aside Specter NOW, and that they either change the Senate rules or use the nuclear option to put through the pro-life judges nominated by the President, soon.
The War on Terror is not a negotiating chip on abortion. There is no issue more morally important than abortion.
Therefore, instead of trying to maneuver and find a bargaining chip when there is absolutely none, including the War, the Republicans need to just cave. Stop resisting and cave. Get Specter out of there, and then there will be no danger of loss of any of the rest of the agenda, including the War on Terror.
That's the way it is, and nothing is going to change it.
Are you sure that they wouldn't rather enslave us and force our conversions to Islam than kill us outright?
Survival of us as a people and US as a country is more important, right now!
I agree, but I see it differently. Since September 2001 less than 6,000 Americans lost their lives due to Islamic militantism while over 4,000,000 Americans lost their lives to abortionists during the same period. The most threatening weapon that the the Islamicists have against us isn't a WMD but rather our own self-inflicted low birth rate. Most of northern Europe has a negative native birthrate (only Muslim Albania is positive). France is almost 10% Muslim today and is projected to have a Muslim majority within the century, with the other European nations not far behind. The Islamicists don't need to destroy us, we are destroying ourselves. If we truly fear the clear threat that Islam poses, we need to think longer term.
"Survival of us as a people and US as a country is more important, right now!"
There will be no survival for countries that continue to murder their own children. 9/11 was just a warning - God will not be mocked.
He used the Arab nations to bring judgement upon Israel for its infidelities - He will do the same for the countries of the West which genuflect at the altar of Moloch.
Indeed.
Most of the one-issue voters represented by the pro-life advocates fail to recognize this.
Let's make it more plain.
IF RADICAL ISLAM IS ABLE TO CONTINUE ON THEIR PATH UNABATED, WE WILL ALL BE DEAD; "ABORTION ON DEMAND" WILL BE MOOT.
I doubt they'll listen to reason though -- they're working with blinders on.
Just damn.
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But can we not work on both (war against terrorism and war against abortion) at the same time?
Abortion is helping radical Islam. The birth rate in Europe has declined so much, their takeover is inevitable. Eventually, low birthrate will catch up with the U.S.
You can't put everything else on hold "till we win the war against radical Islam."
I'm sure you don't tell your wife, "I'm quitting my job because the most important thing - the only thing - right now is the war against radical Islam." Other priorities continue as well - such as earning a living, in your case, and fighting for the unborn, in the case of committed pro-lifers. And besides, even Bush has hinted that the war on terror will last our lifetimes - so if you're saying we can't push pro-life causes till that war is over, you're saying we can't push for pro-life, period. I'm not accepting such nonsense, sorry.
We have the guns to defend ourselves. If those we elect don't defend us, we can take it into our own hands.
Babies don't have guns. Defend them today against the terrorists that have been reigning for 30 years within our own country!
If we persist in genocide against infants, then that's what this nation will deserve.
You're correct, imo.
I was going to add that to my response, but you did it for me. This war must be won, and I don't know if people get this. Thanks.
Well spoken, but I fear it will fall upon as deaf a set of ears as those attached to the "Principled Libertarians" who "sent a message" on November 2nd.
Yes, I've noticed that a moratorium on congressional pork grabbing has even been declared.
(/sarcasm)
Survival of us as a people and US as a country is more important, right now!
Absolutely!
It's nothing versus everything.
If the terrorists win everyone they don't kill will be converted to Islamic fundamentalists. They live to die for God. If they win, everyone losses.
On the other hand, if the terrorists are defeated we gain everything. Research scientists will continue advancing human longevity research and development at ever increasing pace until youth rejuvenating biological immortality is achieved and mass marketed.
Human death will be cured. In a few generations living forever will be the mindset -- the norm. Younger people will never really understand that in the past every person died. As readily as human death is accepted today, living forever will be readily accepted.
As with the war on terror -- either your with us or against us -- as with living forever either a person is for human life or for human death.
In the intern, similar to the mainstream media disparaging most everything that is good, many people will argue against mass marketed cures for human death. They'll do that while rationalizing that they are for life and against death.