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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


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KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: MindBender26

Abortion is helping radical Islam. The birth rate in Europe has declined so much, their takeover is inevitable. Eventually, low birthrate will catch up with the U.S.


241 posted on 11/13/2004 9:17:08 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: buddyholly

The problem with the "gay marriage" vote is that 66 percent of the people polled believe in "civil unions" for gays, a state that I am sure the Evangelicals don't or won't accept either.

Thus we have the time honored tradition on FR of the religious right once again demanding that we "snatch" defeat from the jaws of victory by serving them first, or they will take their votes elsewhere.


242 posted on 11/13/2004 9:17:41 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Pro-life is the only reason I voted for Bush or any Republican, I agree with them on virtually nothing else.
243 posted on 11/13/2004 9:18:00 AM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: Howlin

Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; do you suppose they will demand something "or else?"

Well, is this statement true? It sounds implausible to me.


244 posted on 11/13/2004 9:18:13 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: EternalVigilance
Pro-life didn't turn up in the exit polls, EV.

Most of this country is pro-life, so I'm pretty sure some of them voted for John Kerry, too; what are you gonna give them, huh?

The numbers you cite from the NYT are a red herring.

Only because they don't back up your theory of what happened in this election.

If you chose to demean the Pew Research Center and Michael Barone's numbers, so be it.

245 posted on 11/13/2004 9:20:06 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Amelia
Keyes bombed out in my state. In GOP leaning Du Page County, Keyes only garned 35% of the vote even though Bush carried Du Page County. A lot of Evangelicals were embarrassed by Keyes's arrogant and harsh rhetoric. Pro-life is a viable position as long as the candidate puts into a context for showing compassion for society's misfits.
247 posted on 11/13/2004 9:20:45 AM PST by Kuksool
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To: Drammach

I've read your posts, you oppose making all abortion illegal. In your posting, you state (in other words) that keeping EVIL legal is better public policy. You also call Catholic's who believe what the Christ teaches are EXTREMISTS who ought not to be allowed to make policy.


248 posted on 11/13/2004 9:21:01 AM PST by narses (The fight to protect the unborn is THE civil rights battle of the 21st century. + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: MindBender26
that if we do not will the war against radical Islam, abortion will cease to be an issue for Christians, because all the Christians will be dead.""

You can't put everything else on hold "till we win the war against radical Islam."

I'm sure you don't tell your wife, "I'm quitting my job because the most important thing - the only thing - right now is the war against radical Islam." Other priorities continue as well - such as earning a living, in your case, and fighting for the unborn, in the case of committed pro-lifers. And besides, even Bush has hinted that the war on terror will last our lifetimes - so if you're saying we can't push pro-life causes till that war is over, you're saying we can't push for pro-life, period. I'm not accepting such nonsense, sorry.

249 posted on 11/13/2004 9:21:11 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: JeffAtlanta

Read the link in 200; the GOP isn't dependent on them anymore.


250 posted on 11/13/2004 9:21:11 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin
Abortion was NOT the key issue in this election.

Abortion is the key issue in every national election in this day in which we live.

As it should be. The uncomparably hard-hearted killing off of an entire generation of Americans is the central moral question of our day.

The protection of innocent human life is the center pole of the Republican 'big tent'. Try to kick it out if you will, but the tent will forever lie flat on the ground if you succeed, useless.

251 posted on 11/13/2004 9:21:55 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Spiff
The fact is that the vast majority of Bush voters are pro-life and they expect him to advance the pro-life cause - some more than others.

As I stated above, most of the country IS pro-life; that is not what this election was about; it was about terrorism and gay marriage. Blacks turned out for Bush because a lot of them are offended because gays are trying to make gay marriage into an issue like civil rights were; that truly -- and rightly, IMO -- offends them. It is NOT the same.

253 posted on 11/13/2004 9:23:17 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Skywalk
"No offense, but abortion is not the same as gulags, extermination camps, et al."

True....

But only because the procedure of aborting murdering the un-named, unidentified fetus or pre-born child is not filmed and reported on by CNN, Dan Rather and Peter Jennings.

When people actually SEE the procedure and exactly WHAT is being "aborted" they become repulsed with good reason -- it IS "human."

"The other thing is, it seems like many pro-lifers are so maniacal about this one issue that they'd accept a rule by Communists, so long as the Commies banned abortion, rather than a free state where we convince more and more people to forego abortion and limit it to only the early stage of the pregnancy."

And absolute convolution of rationale if I've ever heard one. You've gotta be kiddin'.

254 posted on 11/13/2004 9:24:31 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Howlin
Read the link in 200; the GOP isn't dependent on them anymore.

Wow.

255 posted on 11/13/2004 9:24:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Amelia

Try reading more carefully then. If the GOP fails to keep it's word, then we will leave. The GOP Platform, for 20 years or more, has been pro-life. If the abortion issue is forgotten (again) post election, our quondam 'friends' are stabbing us in the back. Here on this thread, those who are orthodox CATHOLIC are being told we are EXTREMISTS (or nutjobs) and ought to be tossed from the public square.


256 posted on 11/13/2004 9:24:46 AM PST by narses (The fight to protect the unborn is THE civil rights battle of the 21st century. + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: Theodore R.

I maybe wasn't clear enough; percentage wise of "new Bush voters" Hispanics turned out in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; most exit polling shows that Evangelicals didn't go to the polls in greater numbers than they did in 2000.


257 posted on 11/13/2004 9:25:24 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Spiff
I concede nothing to the New York Times. I refuse to read their garbage.


258 posted on 11/13/2004 9:26:11 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Howlin

"As I stated above, most of the country IS pro-life;..."

And what we are saying is that the GOP ought to remain on that side and work to actually advance that agenda. Specter is 100% against repealing Roe -v- Wade, or had you not heard that?


259 posted on 11/13/2004 9:26:20 AM PST by narses (The fight to protect the unborn is THE civil rights battle of the 21st century. + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: MindBender26
Abortion is a critically important issue. Survival of us as a people and US as a country is more important, right now!

We have the guns to defend ourselves. If those we elect don't defend us, we can take it into our own hands.

Babies don't have guns. Defend them today against the terrorists that have been reigning for 30 years within our own country!

260 posted on 11/13/2004 9:26:24 AM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical! †)
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