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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: Howlin
Actually, I think he's right on that one; it was gay marriage that brought out the voters in the states where it was on the ballot.

There is no evidence that it helped elect Bush. All of the eleven states that had it on the ballot had the same presidential outcome as in 2000. The ban passed in Michigan and Oregon and Bush still lost those states.

The states that did swing to the other side (New Hampshire, Iowa and New Mexico) did not have gay marriage bans on the ballot.
521 posted on 11/13/2004 11:39:29 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: cpforlife.org

Oh my goodness is that unsightly!


522 posted on 11/13/2004 11:39:41 AM PST by AlbionGirl (+Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi.+)
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To: cpforlife.org

You abandon the GOP, you elect Hillary.

How far will Hillary advance your agenda?


523 posted on 11/13/2004 11:40:08 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; Clorinox
You ARE wearing flame-proof undies...aren't you?

I'm wearing Depends...
Every time I get p*****d off, it's just more fire-proofing..

All the hair on my legs is singed off though..

524 posted on 11/13/2004 11:40:27 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: pharmamom

If I recall correctly.


525 posted on 11/13/2004 11:40:58 AM PST by AlbionGirl (+Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi.+)
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To: ScholarWarrior

That was pretty funny! ;)

I support positive ideas and finishing the race...nothing more, nothing less.

I can't help but remember reading about the Hebrew midwives in Egypt that were ordered by Pharoah (?) I beleve, to murder the new born Hebrew babies...original pro-life civil disobedience.


526 posted on 11/13/2004 11:41:44 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You ARE wearing flame-proof undies...aren't you?

Sigh, this is the Internet. The correct terminology is asbestos pants. ;-)

-paridel
527 posted on 11/13/2004 11:42:24 AM PST by Paridel
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To: Paridel
so that brings us to crime and punishment, which seems to be the basic reason that governmental bodies exist. Now I believe the reason that punishments for crime exist is not to seek vengeance, but rather as a disincentive for future crimes.

You are putting words in the mouths of liberatarians and beating them over the head with it. The function of government in the libertarian universe is not crime and punishment - that is an old testament view of things. The libertarian view would be that the government should act to protect individual liberty, life, and property rights. To the extent that restraining and punishing criminals is necessary to accomplish that then it is just, but vengence against criminals is not a function of goverment in the libertarian universe. In the libertarian view, redress against criminals would be more in line with civil penalties - that they should make restitution for the wrongs they have committed.

In fact, re vengence - "Vengence is mine sayeth the lord" - a teaching that our "Christian right" cannot seem to keep in mind when in their anger, envy and bloodlust they seek to strike out against those they disagree with.

528 posted on 11/13/2004 11:42:37 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Howlin

Prove it! ;o


529 posted on 11/13/2004 11:42:45 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Howlin

You seem to be a magnet for them. Congratulations. You have arrived.


530 posted on 11/13/2004 11:43:27 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: ApesForEvolution

Bumpkin my boy, -- I won't reply later.


531 posted on 11/13/2004 11:43:40 AM PST by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: ApesForEvolution

ROFLMAO. You idiot!


532 posted on 11/13/2004 11:45:05 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: All

Have fun, all. Off to give my daughter a birthday party.


533 posted on 11/13/2004 11:45:05 AM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: AlbionGirl

LOL

Yeah, I know...


534 posted on 11/13/2004 11:45:17 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: unsycophant

As usual.


535 posted on 11/13/2004 11:45:24 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Clorinox

Pro-abort


536 posted on 11/13/2004 11:46:20 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Howlin
my sister lived long enough

I love it when these folks believe that serving judge and jury isn't enough but they need to act as god as well. It is ok since god (or something) speaks to them in voices so they know exactly what god intends. By their reasoning we should eschew all modern medical advances and die by age 33 as, apparently, god intended. Modern medicine is an invention of satan to woo us to his side by beguiling us with a vision of a long, soft an pleasant life. It matters not, in the end, all of us so seduced will burn in the everlasting fires.

537 posted on 11/13/2004 11:46:39 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I could care less what others think of my positions. They can type at their keyboards all they want and they sure as hell won't change my mind. A lot of them would like to force people by the barrel of a gun to do what they think is the only moral option. Unless they are willing to invade my house (if they do they would be in for an awful surprise), and kill me, they are not going to change my mind. Wasn't Jesus espousing personal and not governmental morality? And isn't this really what the argument is about, government enforced morality? Why stop there? Doesn't the baby deserve health care once born? Why not have the gov. pay for that? Do you only care about the baby when its in the womb, once it's out you have no obligation to provide for its food/health? Since many babies who are already born are dying from malnutrition isn't it the governments responsibility to ensure this doesn't happen, every dime spent to ensure no babies die around the world? You should have no problem spending tax resources on innocent babies dying of malnutrition and disease all over the globe.
538 posted on 11/13/2004 11:47:20 AM PST by Clorinox
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To: pharmamom
There are valid reasons for using natural family planning.

They are few and far between tho. Means of artificial birth control either place barriers between people and interfere with the unitative nature of the conjugal act or they act as abortifacients and are actually nothing more than a chemical abortion. I see you are Episcopalian, perhaps you could learn from John Paul II's Theology of the Body.

BTW, if I recall correctly the Episcopalian church was the first major denomination to come out in favor of artificial birth control in the 1930s.

539 posted on 11/13/2004 11:48:35 AM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: AlbionGirl
You can have a problem with whatever you want.

I do. I think pro-lifers who believe that you have a right to condemn everyone who disagrees with you to death at sword or gun-point are hypocritical evil megalomaniacs. There isn't a Christian cell in your bodies.

540 posted on 11/13/2004 11:48:35 AM PST by AndyJackson
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