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Many TV stations cancel 'Saving Private Ryan' over fear of FCC sanctions
AP ^ | 11/10/4 | LEON DROUIN KEITH

Posted on 11/10/2004 10:56:32 PM PST by SmithL

NEW YORK -- More than 20 ABC affiliates around the country have announced that they won't take part in the network's Veterans Day airing of "Saving Private Ryan," saying the acclaimed film's violence and language could draw sanctions from the Federal Communications Commission.

The decisions mark a twist in the conflict over the aggressive stand the FCC has taken against obscenity and profanity since Janet Jackson flashed the world during the last Super Bowl halftime show.

Steven Spielberg's Oscar-winning movie aired on ABC with relatively little controversy in 2001 and 2002, but station owners -- including several in large markets -- are unnerved that airing it Thursday could bring federal punishment. The film includes a violent depiction of the D-Day invasion and profanity.

"It would clearly have been our preference to run the movie. We think it's a patriotic, artistic tribute to our fighting forces," Ray Cole, president of Citadel Communications, told AP Radio. The company owns three ABC affiliates in the Midwest.

Other stations choosing to replace the movie with other programming are located in Atlanta, Dallas, Honolulu, New Orleans, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Orlando, Fla., and Charlotte, N.C. They are owned by a variety of companies, including Cox Television, Tribune Broadcasting Corp., Hearst-Argyle Television Inc., Belo Corp. and Sinclair Broadcast Group.

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To: ladyinred
Is this really the reason? I mean, they used to just bleep out the language that might offend.

Spielberg's contract w/ ABC sez there is to be no modification of the film whatsoever. Including censorship of dirty words. And frankly, it's quite clear this is not a movie for children, who are the only people I'd really worry about exposing to such language and violence. If grownups can't handle seeing grownup situations on TV, they oughta shut themselves in and never leave the house, because they certainly can't handle Real Life.

In fact, the sitcoms say much the same thing these days.

Hm. Can't recall ever hearing the F-bomb or S-bomb, or a few others, on network TV. Close, but not the actual words.

SW

21 posted on 11/10/2004 11:16:59 PM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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To: SmithL

Are you sure you're not talking about "Saving Ryan's Privates?"


22 posted on 11/10/2004 11:17:41 PM PST by Clemenza (Karl Rove IS Keyser Soze)
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To: SmithL

The Holy Rollers get their wish- "Thank" you.


23 posted on 11/10/2004 11:21:30 PM PST by richmwill
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To: claudiustg

''Where Eagles Dare'' -- FMJ a good choice, too!


24 posted on 11/10/2004 11:21:51 PM PST by SAJ
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To: SmithL
More than 20 ABC affiliates around the country have announced that they won't take part in the network's Veterans Day airing of "Saving Private Ryan,"

Anyone have a list of those 20 stations? Wonder if they are in blue states or red states....

25 posted on 11/11/2004 12:19:25 AM PST by goldfinch
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To: Snidely Whiplash

It is Spielberg's work and he can command that (unless and law forbids it) but it is ironic that he manipulates his work to accommodate an anti-gun (anti-violence) agenda as in ET.


26 posted on 11/11/2004 1:03:38 AM PST by endthematrix (CRUSH ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: goldfinch
Anyone have a list of those 20 stations? Wonder if they are in blue states or red states...

The guy quoted, Cole, is speaking for the ABC stations in Lincoln and Sioux City and Des Moines as I recall.

Look, this had to be an easy call for him. The possibility of fines and plenty of people who complain every time the f-word is aired or even if it gets bleeped out. People are fed up with it. Even if they bleep it, we all know what they actually said from the context.

Good for Cole and his stations. You don't need vulgar language to make good movies and TV. Generally, it covers for mediocre content anyway. If it's good enough, it doesn't need vulgar language. If it's not good, then why bother to show it?

Maybe Tom Hanks and Hollyweird will think twice before making something like this again with gratuitous vulgarity. Beyond that, Hollyweird now sees that their royalties (with which they fund loonie Lefties) get cut visibly if they market vulgar language in what should be G-rated material.
27 posted on 11/11/2004 3:54:54 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Smokin' Joe
If 'Queer Eye for the Straight Guy' can be on, then why not Saving Private Ryan?

Private cable stations are different than the public airwaves.

Apples and oranges.
28 posted on 11/11/2004 3:58:14 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: richmwill
The Holy Rollers get their wish- "Thank" you.

And you won't get to see it? Are you actually served by one of these 20 stations?

I suspect you're just bashing Christians and cultural conservatives. Not complaining you won't get to watch a hacked up, commercial-cut of Private Ryan for free.
29 posted on 11/11/2004 4:01:10 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Snidely Whiplash
Spielberg's contract w/ ABC sez there is to be no modification of the film whatsoever. Including censorship of dirty words.

Ah, yes, Spielburg the film purist. And yet they can hack the continuity of the film to pieces to sell Ex-Lax and Depends and Joe Foreman Grills.

Such an artiste.
30 posted on 11/11/2004 4:20:42 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Lockbar
Only the first 30 minutes are worth watching...

I know what you mean. But I think the last 5 minutes are extremely important too.

"Earn this"...two little words that say so much.

31 posted on 11/11/2004 4:45:11 AM PST by Timeout
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To: goldfinch
Anyone have a list of those 20 stations?

From this morning's Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

"It would clearly have been our preference to run the movie. We think it's a patriotic, artistic tribute to our fighting forces," Ray Cole, president of Citadel Communications, told AP Radio. The company owns WOI-TV in Des Moines, KCAU-TV in Sioux City and KLKN-TV in Lincoln, Neb.

Other stations choosing to replace the movie with other programming include Atlanta's WSB-TV, WFAA-TV of Dallas, WGNO-TV of New Orleans, WCPO-TV of Cincinnati, WSYX-TV of Columbus, WISN-TV of Milwaukee, WSOC-TV of Charlotte, N.C., WVEC-TV of WMUR-TV of Manchester, N.H., WHAS-TV of Louisville, Ky. and KVUE-TV of Austin, Texas. They are owned by a variety of companies, including Cox Television, Tribune Broadcasting Corp., Hearst-Argyle Television Inc., Belo Corp. and Sinclair Broadcast Group.


32 posted on 11/11/2004 6:21:09 AM PST by mhking
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To: Lockbar

I am glad I am not the only person who thinks that.


33 posted on 11/11/2004 6:21:37 AM PST by akorahil (MSM is RIP)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Stations preempting include ABC affiliates owned by Sinclair, Cox, Hearst-Argyle, Pappas, Citadel and Scripps Howard.

If your station is preempting Saving Private Ryan, I'd strongly suggest a call/note to your local station expressing your dismay at their chicken-spit attitude.

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

34 posted on 11/11/2004 6:30:46 AM PST by mhking
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To: ladyinred

The Media is only trying "In your face" tactic during a national holiday. They should be ashamed. They are taking one example of a violation and turning it into propaganda for all to see.


35 posted on 11/11/2004 6:31:42 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Smokin' Joe

God forbid some little ankle biter hears the 'F' word for the first time.


36 posted on 11/11/2004 6:35:05 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: ladyinred
That's because it is not the reason. The reason is that the networks HATE BUSH, HATE THE MILITARY, and want everyone to know. They want the entire country to SPIT ON OUR MILITARY, so to speak, as they are doing and DID DURING THE ELECTION.

This particular movie has been on before, so it's not like they really can claim it is not fit for broadcast.

They are just trying to MAKE A POINT.

I say, GO OUT AND ATTEND MILITARY VETERANS SERVICES and CELEBRATIONS IN PERSON, and SCREW THE TV !!!!!!!!!!!!

Hollywood, ABC,CBS,NBC were taken over by the infestation that is COMMUNISISM a long time ago, and watching TV only supports their lies and their desire to take all your time, all your money, and use it to support their goals.

I only watch three programs, when I watch TV.

The Simpsons, Malcolm in the Middle, and That 70's Show.

I will not watch or pay for CABLE, SATELLITE, or DIGITAL. Those who do say all they do is constantly switch channels and never really end up watching anything completely through.

This technique is a planned one designed to get you to spread your attention throughout their advertising market, as you get bored with each show in progress and just know "there has to be something better on another channel."

We all (and I am including myself) need to KILL OUR TV's, and realize REALITY TV is an OXYMORON.

37 posted on 11/11/2004 6:41:49 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: SmithL

My local station here in the central time zone is not showing it because the "f word" is spoken 46 times in the first half hour.

It should have been shown later or the "f words" bleeped out.

I rented the CD and liked the movie a lot. However, I didn't show it to my young children, though.

It's a matter of decency on the public air waives during prime time.


38 posted on 11/11/2004 6:42:16 AM PST by A. Patriot
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To: SmithL

I watched it for the first time Monday. It is a very intense movie.

I thought Band of Brothers was better.


39 posted on 11/11/2004 6:43:37 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Timeout

I know this is not the forum for this, but I could not disagree with both of you more.

The scene where the medic is killed is extraordinarily powerful. It portrays the helplessness of men caught up in events. It shows the love and tenderness men have for each other, something those of us who have never fought have very little conception of.

How about the scene when one of their buddies is shot by a sniper? The futility and waste, as his blood runs slowly out while all the rest can do is watch? And all the man wanted was a piece of home, a little girl who reminded him of home, just a touch, a feeling of home.

And what about the hand to hand fighting near the end? The guys having a knife fight? The sheer inhumane aspect, the animal struggle to survive?

How can you discount those scenes as not worth watching?

I know this is not the basis of the thread, but those scenes, are, in a sense, just as powerful in a different way than the opening 30 minutes.

But I agree. The opening 30 minutes are like no other in cinema history. They stand alone.


40 posted on 11/11/2004 6:43:45 AM PST by rlmorel
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