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"Jubilation When The Wicked Perish"
Israel National News ^ | 18:28 Nov 10, '04 / 26 Cheshvan 5765

Posted on 11/10/2004 1:51:06 PM PST by yonif

An interesting debate is being conducted in some circles in Israel as to precisely how happy one should be at Arafat's demise.

One Biblical verse that has often been quoted of late is, "When the wicked perish, there is jubilation" (Proverb 11,10). A statement by the Tekumah party - a faction of the National Union - notes that the Talmud cites this verse in response to witnesses who fear that their testimony might help put someone to death. The judges tell them, "You will not be liable for this blood; it is rather a merit for you, to purify the world from evil and to add light and joy, as is written, 'When the wicked perish, there is jubilation.'"

Tekumah also quotes Rabbi A. I. Kook, Chief Rabbi of pre-State Israel, as writing that the verse implies that even "evil itself, in its depth, longs for its own demise and rejoices in it." The Tekumah statement concludes, "If we recall the dark passion of the terrorists to kill themselves together with their victims, and Arafat's wish to be a shahid [martyr], we can begin to understand Rabbi Kook's words, and see the kindness that was done to Arafat with his passing from the world."

Others quote a different verse in Proverbs: "When your enemy falls, do not rejoice" (24, 17). Some explain, however, that this is referring to one's personal enemy, but not to "wicked people" in general, over whose downfall one should rejoice. Others explain that this means not to have public rejoicing in the streets.

Rabbi Shlomo Aviner, Dean of Yeshivat Ateret Cohanim in the Old City of Jerusalem and Rabbi of Beit El, writes that when considering the injunction not to "rejoice upon the fall of your enemy," it depends who the enemy is: "When the Purim story occurred, Mordechai did not act particularly compassionately towards Haman. When the latter cited this verse, Mordechai replied that it did not apply to him. The same with Arafat, who killed many Jews and left many widows, widowers, orphans and suffering wounded... It's true that G-d told the angels not to sing when the Egyptians were drowning in the Red Sea - but the Children of Israel did sing! We, too, are not angels - just as the Rabbi of Pisetzna, Rabbi Kalman Kalonymus Shapira, wrote during the Holocaust: 'Did an angel ever get hit? Did an angel ever get murdered? Did an angel ever get humiliated? We did! In Egypt, the angels didn't suffer - so they don't have to sing [afterwards]. But we did suffer, [and that's why we sang]...' For Arafat we say, 'when the wicked perish, there is jubilation.'"

The Pikuach Nefesh Rabbis Association, headed by Rabbis Yaakov Yosef (son of Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef), David Druckman of Kiryat Motzkin, and Yosef Garletzky, similarly states that the day of Arafat's death is one of "happiness and rejoicing for the Nation of Israel." The organization published a call to make the day one of celebration, and stated,

"We wish to uproot the mistake of those who mock those who are happy on this day as 'right-wing extremists," as those who do so, deviate gravely from the natural instincts and feelings of our people, who hate the enemies of the Jews and are happy at their downfall. 'So may all Your enemies fall, O G-d!'"


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arafat; israel; jews; terroristleader
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To: Alouette
I plan on taking the day off and getting totally, absolutely stinking drunk and praying the whole time that there will never be another blight on humanity as this POS is/was, allowed to be born!
21 posted on 11/10/2004 3:19:28 PM PST by rocksblues (No more Kerry, no more polls!)
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To: Happy2BMe
This has been a good 7 days. Bush got re-elected, Arafat's acquired room temperature, the Left is in full meltdown mode, and I got to kick Leftist butt on a security mailing list.

Man, this is the good life.

22 posted on 11/10/2004 3:23:06 PM PST by Prime Choice (Hey-hey! Ho-ho! Arlen Specter's gotta go!)
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To: Alouette

Can you stuff me into your suitcase? Please? I'll buy dinner!


23 posted on 11/10/2004 3:24:03 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Ann Coulter for AG!)
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To: camle
they should handle it the way arafats' people handled 9/11 - dancing in the streets

I'll be handing out candies and sweetbreads, too. : )

24 posted on 11/10/2004 3:25:32 PM PST by Prime Choice (Hey-hey! Ho-ho! Arlen Specter's gotta go!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Can you stuff me into your suitcase? Please?

I'm only allowed 2 pieces of checked luggage. One suitcase is already full of stuff for my daughter. My son hasn't even sent me his list yet.

I don't know where I'm going to pack my own stuff.

If you are a hobbit on the small size maybe I could find space.

25 posted on 11/10/2004 3:32:38 PM PST by Alouette (Schadenfreude--it's better than prozac!)
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To: yonif
Well I have been dancing in jubilation ever since President Bush was re-elected, and the evil of the left was defeated. And when the left crumbles, I will arrange a Ball -- dancing before God in jubilation!

It is a refreshment to the bones when evil perishes. Arafat is evil.

26 posted on 11/10/2004 3:33:18 PM PST by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: Alouette

OK! Well, let's see. A diet? Yes. I'll go on an immediate and harsh diet.

Now...the height might be a problem. Let me work on this.

Seriously...I'm SO GLAD you're able to go. Give your "boy" a hug from me, tell him THANK YOU!!!!...and he and your WONDERFUL country have my undying support.

Forever.


27 posted on 11/10/2004 3:34:45 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Ann Coulter for AG!)
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To: Happy2BMe
PTL, AMEN and HALLELUJIA BTTT!!!
28 posted on 11/10/2004 3:36:41 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Brad's Gramma
Now...the height might be a problem.

I, myself, am 4'11.5" (never reached the 5' mark!)

Diet, yes! Airplane seats are narrow.

If you're smaller than me then you can hide in the carryon, otherwise I'll have to be stuffed into the overhead.

29 posted on 11/10/2004 3:37:50 PM PST by Alouette (Schadenfreude--it's better than prozac!)
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To: Prime Choice; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; potlatch; JohnHuang2; Mia T; Grampa Dave; Boazo; ...
"This has been a good 7 days. Bush got re-elected, Arafat's acquired room temperature, the Left is in full meltdown mode, and I got to kick Leftist butt on a security mailing list."

"Man, this is the good life."

______________________________________________

Us old timers call it

"Walking In Tall Cotton . ."

30 posted on 11/10/2004 3:37:55 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Poohbah

A South Park episode I briefly watched (ahem) a while back comes to mind...I will rent the dvd when "Weekend at Yassir's" comes out.


31 posted on 11/10/2004 3:39:20 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: yonif
Any celebrations of the passing of Arafat should be tempered with the foreboding his works will live on. There is yet a full generation of Palestinians taught from birth to hate Israel and aspire to annihilate the Jews.
32 posted on 11/10/2004 3:39:44 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan

You are correct.


33 posted on 11/10/2004 3:40:04 PM PST by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: Alouette

I'm sorry Alouette. I'm taller. It is you who I will have to stuff into the overhead container.

But don't worry. When the stewardess walks past, I'll leap to my feet and get you right out! She'll NEVER NOTICE us sitting in the same seat. Huh.


34 posted on 11/10/2004 3:40:25 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Ann Coulter for AG!)
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To: Happy2BMe
bump!!

35 posted on 11/10/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
I'm sorry Alouette. I'm taller. It is you who I will have to stuff into the overhead container.

Whoever pays for the ticket gets to sit in the seat.

36 posted on 11/10/2004 4:04:24 PM PST by Alouette (Schadenfreude--it's better than prozac!)
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To: Alouette

AAAaaaaahhhhhhh......you're GOOD!

OK. How's THIS? We'll split the cost of the ticket, and I'll take turns standing?!


37 posted on 11/10/2004 4:05:18 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Ann Coulter for AG!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Death To all Islamofascist terrorists and that includes Yasar!

It makes my heart sing every time one dies!


38 posted on 11/10/2004 5:19:01 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...



39 posted on 11/10/2004 6:06:01 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass
Good post - BTT.

Thanks.

40 posted on 11/10/2004 6:31:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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