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Handicapping '08
08 Nov 04 | Fidelio

Posted on 11/08/2004 1:44:46 PM PST by fidelio

I know we have four more years of The Man in The White House, but I am curious as to what other Freepers think of possible 2008 candidates.

Here is my potential staring grid:

Rudy Giulliani (NY)
Sec. Colin Powell (NY)
Sen. Bill Frist (TN)
Gov. Jeb Bush (FL)
Sen. John McCain (AZ)
Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR)
Gov. Mitt Romney (MA)

In my opinion, Giulliani may be the force here. Although he will need someone to balance out the ticket and appeal to the base. My thinking would be Huckabee, a former Baptist minister who has dumped 110 pounds in a year and is also a "Man from Hope."

Thoughts?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: Florida; US: Massachusetts; US: Mississippi; US: Tennessee; US: Texas; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: Josh in PA

Whoever it is, the party must VET all the candidates extensively and let the primary voters know if something's up. I think McCain would be good, I don't know why people call him a lib, perhaps I don't know his record well enough.


21 posted on 11/08/2004 1:54:11 PM PST by polyester~monkey (4 Senate seats, 4 House Seats, and 52% of the popular vote: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN)
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To: Alberta's Child

You've got that right. Anyone who thinks Giuliani has a chance doesn't understand the republican grass roots as it is now constituted.


22 posted on 11/08/2004 1:54:56 PM PST by mrjeff
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To: fidelio


23 posted on 11/08/2004 1:55:03 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: Alberta's Child

Sen. George Allen of VA was previously governor of VA.


24 posted on 11/08/2004 1:55:21 PM PST by rightazrain
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To: hawaiian
What is Romney's position on abortion and guns? If he passes that test then we can consider him a legitimate candidate. If not, forget about it. If he does, then Santorum or Norm Coleman may be good choices for veep.
25 posted on 11/08/2004 1:55:48 PM PST by Clump
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To: Rutles4Ever

If all goes well, it will be Jeb Bush.


I discussed this with my wife this weekend, and we agree. Jeb, or anybody else named Bush for that matter, is a non-starter.

Its not that I dont like the Bush family, nothing could be further from the truth. My problem is, even I will be having a "bush hangover" by 2008 and having one family with three presidents in 20 years seems a little monarchal, even to me. Lets spread the wealth around a little. We're a country of 290 million. There is absolutely no reason that ONE family should get three Presidents.

Just my .02


26 posted on 11/08/2004 1:56:13 PM PST by The Hollywood Conservative (I can't even make a tagline because I'm a GIANT IDIOT!!!)
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To: fidelio

Hm. I always liked Huckabee, but didn't he undergo some political problems a few years back that might translate to baggage? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else...

He's also posted here on Free Republic, hasn't he? I remember his name coming up a few times in the 2000 election.

My dream ticket would be Jeb/Rudy, but it's not gonna happen. Giuliani won't win the nomination, he's off a bit too much to the left on social issues, and that'll cost him points, and Jeb will probably be too much Bush family members after two decades of having one in office (GWHB 80-88 as VP and 88-92 as Pres, and GWB 2000-08). So we need someone else as the frontrunner, preferably a strong conservative Governor. I think we'll see someone unexpected grab the nomination in the end.


27 posted on 11/08/2004 1:56:17 PM PST by Matt32
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To: fidelio

Where's Condi?


28 posted on 11/08/2004 1:56:26 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: Cagey
I think left off a big name on that list

former governor, now U.S. Senator George Allen.

29 posted on 11/08/2004 1:57:06 PM PST by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: writer33
Beyond that, he's got all kinds of attributes that make him effectively ineligible to run for President. I understand that these are all extremely superficial, but if you go back through all the Presidents who have been elected since the dawn of the television age you'll find that this combination will never work:

1. He's bald.
2. He's bald and short.
3. He's bald, short, and wears glasses
4. He's a short bald guy who wears glasses and speaks with a slight lisp.
5. He's a short, bald Italian-American who wears glasses and speaks with a slight lisp.
6. He's a short, bald Italian-American from New York who wears glasses and speaks with a slight lisp.

That adds up to an awful lot of baggage in this age of packaged candidates. And I haven't even mentioned his political stands!

30 posted on 11/08/2004 1:57:58 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: fidelio
Rudy Giulliani (NY)-- Would be a good president but his social stands will prevent him from getting out of the primaries. Possible VP. People here will scream and shout but in the end if they have to allow a Dem to get in, they will vote for a good Presidential candidate and suffer a pro-choice VP.

Sec. Colin Powell (NY)-- Won't run. VP would be a step down from Sec. State.

Sen. Bill Frist (TN)-- Acceptable to base but comes across as too weak to make a good president. I like the guy but he doesn't seem to have the gut for the presidency. He has the air of a VP.

Gov. Jeb Bush (FL)-- Won't run, may run for Senate. People won't want to put the same family in a third time.

Sen. John McCain (AZ)-- If he survives the primaries will become president. Possibly the most popular politician in the US, even if he doesn't deserve the popularity. Is more conservative than many here give him credit for, even though I agree his chumminess with dems over republicans is annoying.

Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR)-- Maybe.

Gov. Mitt Romney (MA)--Strongly convservative with appeal to liberals. Would lock up the women's vote and has shown he can run against a Dem woman and win without being seen as a bully. He'd be the strongest candidate.

31 posted on 11/08/2004 1:58:15 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Suffering from Dempression? Then grow up!)
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To: fidelio

To start, throw out the Senators and Jeb Bush. The former can't get elected as President and the latter will not win due to the inherent American distaste for dynasty. Jeb Bush will be a better candidate a few more elections down the line, say, in 2016 or 2020.


32 posted on 11/08/2004 1:58:53 PM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: polyester~monkey
McCain would be good

His time has come and gone

33 posted on 11/08/2004 2:00:27 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: polyester~monkey
McCain would be good

His time has come and gone

34 posted on 11/08/2004 2:00:31 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: fidelio
Here's my perfect candidate:

1. A governor. Governor's have the executive experience that a President needs and don't carry the legislative baggage of a Senator.

2. Preferably from a large State. The larger the state, the more electoral votes and the higher the name recognition.

3. From a Blue State. The bigger Blue the state, the more we EVs we steal from the left.

4. A recognized name: If Hilary is indeed the candidate, overcoming her name recognition will be an uphill, and COSTLY battle. We won't have a lot of time to "introduce" our candidate to America. They already know Hilary. It would be nice if they already know (AND LIKE!) our pick.
35 posted on 11/08/2004 2:02:15 PM PST by The Hollywood Conservative (I can't even make a tagline because I'm a GIANT IDIOT!!!)
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To: The Hollywood Conservative

that's a good point. There could very well be "Bush fatigue"...


36 posted on 11/08/2004 2:02:43 PM PST by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: rightazrain

George allen exactly


37 posted on 11/08/2004 2:02:46 PM PST by RecallMoran (The left would RATHER lie)
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To: rightazrain

"Sen. George Allen of VA was previously governor of VA."

Top notch. Name recognition is a big issue, and he, along with several others, desn't have it, yet.

Guiliani and McCain have it, as does Hillary.

To get recognition for the person favored by the WH, maybe he/she could serve the last two years as VP?


38 posted on 11/08/2004 2:03:04 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: fidelio
Giulliani may be the force here.

After winning big by going Conservative, what the devil possesses anyone to think that going Liberal is going to be the key in 2008??

39 posted on 11/08/2004 2:03:05 PM PST by Prime Choice (Hey-hey! Ho-ho! Arlen Specter's gotta go!)
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To: The Hollywood Conservative

Yeah, but we have to amend the Constitution for that.


40 posted on 11/08/2004 2:03:27 PM PST by fidelio
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