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Operation Phantom Fury Live Thread
msnbc, cnn, various ^ | epluribus_2

Posted on 11/08/2004 8:39:55 AM PST by epluribus_2

NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq - More than 4,000 U.S. Marines and Army troops punched their way into northeastern Fallujah on Monday, kicking off a massive assault dubbed Operation Phantom Fury that seeks to put an end to half a year of insurgent control of the Sunni Muslim city.

The prelude to the assault on the Askari neighborhood was a crushing air and artillery bombardment of the city that rose to a crescendo by Monday evening, with U.S. strike jets dropping bombs around the clock and big guns pounding the city every few minutes with high-explosive shells.

Meanwhile, insurgents in Baghdad and nearby Ramadi tried to keep up the pressure on the coalition forces with new attacks, including one on a Catholic church in the capital.

Earlier Monday U.S. troops had fought their way into the city's western outskirts, seizing two bridges over the Euphrates River and helping Iraqi soldiers take the city's main hospital in the first stage of a major assault on the insurgent stronghold.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: falluja; fallujah; iraq; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; usmc; wot
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To: afnamvet
Yep! I love that quote. If you go to that link to the text, there is the text from the movie with George C. Scott and then there is the text from Patton's ACTUAL statement. Unsensored.

181 posted on 11/08/2004 10:03:19 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Operation Phantom Fury, killing bad guys ~ Bump!


182 posted on 11/08/2004 10:03:34 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
World War Two gave us "Torch", "Husky", "Dragoon", etc., but in recent years everything has been "Operation Improve Conditions", "Operation Restore Hope", "Operation Justice and Comfort", "Operation A New Beginning", or whatever.

A while back there was "Anaconda".

183 posted on 11/08/2004 10:03:49 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: michigander
Go get 'em!!! Shoot first, and don't bother asking questions.......
184 posted on 11/08/2004 10:04:24 AM PST by b4its2late (Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.)
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To: San Jacinto

Me too.. unless he's catching a ride atop one of the bombs ;)


185 posted on 11/08/2004 10:04:42 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: AZamericonnie

My bet Zarkie has long turned his tail and fled (brave, brave Sir Zarkie) and is riding a camel toward the syrian border while Osama is sipping mint tea in Pakistan at the house of the chief of the ISI, watching it all on CNN while he waits for the ayatollah's to finish their bomb.


186 posted on 11/08/2004 10:04:45 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: epluribus_2

Use all of the explosive RAID fellows; we're behind you 100%. Hail to our troops!


187 posted on 11/08/2004 10:04:48 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Fast5

This is only place I have seen this report of 38 U.S.captured by the enemy.I read a report where we captured 38 Iraqi's.
If 38 of our guys were captured I'd expect it to be on FOX or CNN.


188 posted on 11/08/2004 10:04:52 AM PST by hubno (hub)
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To: Fast5
*Post I'm sure we'll see on DU anytime now:*

Osama Bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed in Falluja?

No that can't be true, because Rove put ILM and Pixar up to doing that latest Osama video (see, both companies were given venture capital by Google, which is a front organization for BushCo to let them know when you search for pictures of Lindsay Lohan's boobs), but they really killed him as a scape goat for doing Bush's bidding (destroying the WTC was all Bush's master plot, the dumbass)months ago, and they just dumped his body last night during the AC-110 gunship raids, so now they'll go "find" his body and Bush will look like a hero!

ROVE YOU EVIL GENIOUS!!!
189 posted on 11/08/2004 10:05:05 AM PST by Jinjelsnaps ("Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana" - Groucho Marx)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

They have had success setting off and clearing booby traps.


190 posted on 11/08/2004 10:05:21 AM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: Spirochete

I get a kick out of the drug war ops... the most recent I read about was "Op. Baja Kings."


191 posted on 11/08/2004 10:05:37 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: spald
Not a tank expert and many, many years from hearing the faint rattle of musketry, but here goes...

There are many different variables in your #1 question: the type of round fired [armor-piercing, fin-stabilized discarding sabot made of depleted uranium (AP), high-explosive antitank (HEAT), and/or high-explosive multipurpose antitank (MPAT)] and the type of construction of the houses. A sabot round would go the fartherest, yet the holes would not necessarily be man sized. HEAT or MPAT rounds would blow a large hole in the outside wall, yet may not hole the inner walls. It may also bring down the whole house, depending the construction materials.

#2, there is not, to my knowledge, a single round like that, but there is a 120mm "beehive" cannister round that throws about 1200 tungsten steel balls that would be like a Claymore on steroids.

Hope this info helps or Google M1A1 M1A2 tank rounds for more.

Urban Warfare is the most difficult type of combat and I pray for our troops. May God guide their hands.

192 posted on 11/08/2004 10:06:13 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Not to worry, It is already mainstrem media information.

I would not make anything public that I thought was opsec.


193 posted on 11/08/2004 10:06:16 AM PST by RaceBannon (Arab Media pulled out of Fallujah; Could we get the MSM to pull out of America??)
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To: hubno

Baghdad Bob has been training the reporters well in some sites..


194 posted on 11/08/2004 10:06:44 AM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Holey Frijoles! What an exchange of words to remember!


195 posted on 11/08/2004 10:06:57 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: epluribus_2

MSNBC reporter: 4000 troops entering from the north. Full-scale ground assault. 24 hour curfew on city. Arrest killer; "If you kill them, let it be", Alawi (sp) the Iraqi PM said.

Army 1st ID reporter, Jackie Spinner (phone report MSNBC). 1.5 hours ago, entered the city, detonating booby traps. Some resistance. Impossible to tell how long battle will last. Big battle will be when they reach further into the inner city where most of the 'insurgents' are.

Preparing for door-to-door, if necessary.

Troops were anxious to get in, restless, in the 'hurry up and wait' mode. Glad to be in action.


196 posted on 11/08/2004 10:07:08 AM PST by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: HiJinx

Obviously, yes! :)


197 posted on 11/08/2004 10:07:27 AM PST by RaceBannon (Arab Media pulled out of Fallujah; Could we get the MSM to pull out of America??)
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To: All

General Casey to give briefing shortly.


198 posted on 11/08/2004 10:07:32 AM PST by Gucho
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To: hubno

God bless and keep our soldiers safe. I hope it is just a ruse and they are wrong.


199 posted on 11/08/2004 10:07:38 AM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: epluribus_2
US Marines of the 1st Division dressed as gladiators stage a chariot race reminiscent of the Charlton Heston movie-complete with confiscated Iraqi horses at their base outside Fallujah, Iraq, Saturday, Nov. 6 , 2004. For U.S. Marines tapped to lead an expected attack on insurgent-held Fallujah, the bags have been packed, trucks have been loaded and final letters have been sent, leaving one final task - the 'Ben-Hur.' (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)
Sat Nov 6,12:38 PM ET
AP

US Marines of the 1st Division dressed as gladiators stage a chariot race reminiscent of the Charlton Heston movie-complete with confiscated Iraqi horses at their base outside Fallujah, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, Nov. 6 , 2004. For U.S. Marines tapped to lead an expected attack on insurgent-held Fallujah, the bags have been packed, trucks have been loaded and final letters have been sent, leaving one final task - the 'Ben-Hur.' (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)


200 posted on 11/08/2004 10:07:58 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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