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Ohio Supreme Court Rules to Allow Challengers
The Ohio Supreme Court ^

Posted on 11/01/2004 5:14:14 PM PST by RightFighter

This cause originated upon the filing of a complaint for a writ of mandamus. Upon consideration of relators’ motion for an emergency peremptory writ of mandamus,

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that relators’ motion be, and hereby is, granted, and that a writ of mandamus be, and hereby is, granted to compel respondent Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell to reissue and enforce his October 26, 2004 Directive 2004-45 to all eighty-eight counties insofar as it permits, in accordance with R.C. 3505.21 and 3506.13, one duly designated challenger per precinct and, after the polls close, one duly designated witness per precinct, no matter how many precincts vote at a single location.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that a writ of mandamus be, and hereby is, granted to compel respondent Franklin County Board of Elections and the remaining eighty-seven county boards of elections to comply with this directive. This order is based solely on this court’s interpretation of state statutes.

PFEIFER, LUNDBERG STRATTON, O'CONNOR and O'DONNELL, JJ., concur.

RESNICK, ACTING C.J., and F.E. SWEENEY, J., dissent. GORMAN, J, dissents.

ROBERT H. GORMAN, J., of the First Appellate District, sitting for MOYER, C.J.

(Excerpt) Read more at sconet.state.oh.us ...


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I'm in law school. If a federal court makes a decision interpreting a state law (in other words, federal courts sometimes will rule on a state law matter based on how they perceive the state courts will) then a state supreme court can in essence overrule.


41 posted on 11/01/2004 5:21:36 PM PST by pabtahian
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To: RightFighter

Holy Tamales!

A set of judges who actually rule on what the law IS, not what their partisan ideology WANTS IT TO BE?

What's this world comin' to?

This is really, REALLY good news!! The Dem fraud machine in Ohio just got kicked in the cajones.


42 posted on 11/01/2004 5:21:43 PM PST by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: laconic

A state court can't overturn a federal court.


43 posted on 11/01/2004 5:21:50 PM PST by We Happy Few ("we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother;")
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To: MikeWUSAF; laconic

How is that possible?

State Supreme Courts are not in line about a Federal District Court. It would have to go to a higher Federal Court.

Right?


44 posted on 11/01/2004 5:21:51 PM PST by IMRight ("Eye" See BS)
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To: RightFighter

Thank you for that explanation -- in post 24.


45 posted on 11/01/2004 5:22:01 PM PST by Ciexyz (Feeling so much calmer now I've cancelled my cable TV. Don't miss the Demopuke spin on cable news.)
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To: pctech

It means the OH Supreme Court just delivered a firm kick in the teeth to that charlatan Clinton-appointee in Cincinnati who thought she could appoint herself as the legislature and governor for the entire state. She tried to make up law to serve her left-wing masters, and, fortunately, the OH SC smacked her down.


46 posted on 11/01/2004 5:22:07 PM PST by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: LikeLight

I was thinking the same thing.


47 posted on 11/01/2004 5:22:21 PM PST by muggs (Political Correctness and Pandering For Votes Is Going to Get Americans Killed!)
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To: laconic
I assume the State Supreme Court ruling is overturning the federal district court judge? If so, very good news, even though it was close (5-4!)

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that the State Supreme court has jurisdiction over a federal district court. However, I think that a judge in Akron ruled in such a way as to make a path to the state court for a very similar case. Thus, the state court had an opportunity to rule on the issue.

Although she claims its constitutional in nature, I don't think that this Clinton-appointee leftist fed judge will (or even can) push the issue. She certainly has no time left on the clock for this election.

48 posted on 11/01/2004 5:22:21 PM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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To: TheBigB
John Glenn's been out of the Senate for a while now.

Yeah, but I understand he had a hand in Dlott's appointment. Good to see the OSC zot Dlott.

49 posted on 11/01/2004 5:22:22 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: laconic

It's clear when you read this decision that they're responding to the federal court decisions, because the dissenters discuss the issues raised by Judge Dlott.


50 posted on 11/01/2004 5:22:36 PM PST by RightFighter
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To: pctech
Right. What does it mean, when did it come out, and how does this relate to the Federal Court decision?
51 posted on 11/01/2004 5:24:24 PM PST by Teslas Pigeon
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To: Teslas Pigeon

another thread states that the 5th Circuit ruled against us.


52 posted on 11/01/2004 5:26:14 PM PST by mwl1
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To: IMRight

No, they can't overturn it but they can interpret and apply state law separately -- they have issued an order to the Secretary of State to enforce the law on the books by allowing challengers. My understanding was that a separate appeal from the Dlott decision was taken to the Sixth Circuit which is reviewing it solely on briefs (no oral argument) and stated it would issue a decision by midnite tonite. The Ohio State Supreme Court's interpretation and order makes it much harder for them NOT to reverse the district judge's bizarre adverse ruling which I understand overturned 100 years of law in Ohio.


53 posted on 11/01/2004 5:26:19 PM PST by laconic
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To: RightFighter

This is why winning the elsction is so damn important. Conservative judges who foolow the law and the Constitution.


54 posted on 11/01/2004 5:26:30 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: BCrago66

It will now take the US Supreme Court to overturn the Ohio Supreme Court and I doubt that will happen.


55 posted on 11/01/2004 5:26:48 PM PST by wastedpotential
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To: laconic
If so, very good news, even though it was close (5-4!)

I count 4-3, but same result.

57 posted on 11/01/2004 5:29:22 PM PST by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, USCG patrol boat, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: pabtahian

If the federal court has jurisidiction, then the matter is not entirely an issue of state law (unless there's diversity, not at issue here.) TO my knowledge, the 6th Circuit is presently taking up the issue of challenges within the polling place, and there's federal jurisdiction under a federal statute - I forget the name of the statute; it's some good government federal election law passed post Florida-2000.

Under the Supremacy Clause, if the 6th Circuit nixes challenges within the polling places, that trumps the state court.


58 posted on 11/01/2004 5:30:30 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: RightFighter

Thank God. Fifty years and not a peep out of the Democrats until now??

They should have changed it back when they were voting it into law...


59 posted on 11/01/2004 5:30:45 PM PST by dandelion (http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: RightFighter

YES!! Whooo F'in hooooo!!


60 posted on 11/01/2004 5:30:55 PM PST by Gimme
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