Posted on 10/22/2004 7:22:56 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
Universe's 6,000th birthday ...
Tim Radford Friday October 22, 2004 The Guardian
Britain's geologists are about to celebrate the fact that the universe is exactly 6,000 years old.
At 6pm tonight at the Geological Society of London, scientists will raise their glasses to James Ussher, Archbishop of Armagh (below), who in 1650 used the chronology of the Bible to calculate the precise date and moment of creation.
Working from the book of Genesis, and risking some speculation on the Hebrew calendar, he calculated that it began at 6pm on Saturday October 22, 4004 BC.
Actually, he put the date at October 23, and then pedantically realised that time must have begun the night before, because the Bible said that "the evening and the morning were the first day."
The geologists selected the anniversary for a day-long conference on some of the fakes, frauds and hoaxes that have plagued geological and palaeontological research for centuries. "It's not that we think Archbishop Ussher's date was a fraud," said Ted Nield, the society's communications officer. "It's just that it was spectacularly wrong."
Dr Nield conceded, too, that in toasting the archbishop's calculations the geologists were committing another error. More than 6,000 years have passed since 4004 BC. The symmetry is only apparent. The date is a mere numerological reflection. The real anniversary passed unnoticed, in 1997.
I think it was "Buddy Jesus," although I'm not positive.
lol NASA sure didn't....
Here's something to think about:
Adam was 930 years old when he died, according to the Bible. The question is, did Adam start counting the day he was created or the day he sinned.
Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
We know that Adam did physically die (i.e heart stop beating, stop breathing) on that day.
So, did TIME begin for Adam on that day?
That opens up some VERY interesting possibilities, does it not?
I question the timing of this announcement.
Huh? Explain please.
Oh, I forgot to mention that Peter tells us that one day with the LORD is as a thousand years to man.... These guys might have to double their count.
I didn't mean for you not to post it, I just wanted to see how others felt about it. I didn't know it was from a movie or why someone made it to start with. I never want to press my views of religion on anyone else. Being the Lord made everything that is made, I guess he made humor too.
> That opens up some VERY interesting possibilities, does it not?
No, not really. No more than debating the physics of Medusa turning people into stone...
Did those fossils have a date stamped on them, who says they're a million years old.
Movie: "Dogma"
Amen.
And how 'bout when they switched from the Gregorian to the Julian calendar (or was it the other way around?) and we "lost" something like 8 days.
There is no magical 1 Day equals 1,000 Years in the Bible. There is a passage that says to God 1,000 years is as a day, but it also a day is as 1,000 years. It simply means that because God is an infinite being time does not affect Him the way it affects us. I think you are confusing the 1,000 Millenial kingdom with the 7th week described in the book of Daniel. The actual Hebrew states "There are 7 sets of sevens determined for your people." Sometimes a "set of seven" means a week. Sometimes a "set of seven" means seven years. It was incorrectly translated into english as "week" because that is the most common usage of the term. The 7th "set of seven" is the period right before the 1,000 year Millenial Kingdom.
How this is all interpreted practically depends on your theological leanings, but that is generally accepted by biblical scholars as the correct "lingistical" interpretation.
Regards,
I know a guy whose karma ran over his dogma.
> Did those fossils have a date stamped on them, who says they're a million years old.
Geologists, biologists and physicists. When distinct braches of the physical sciences all largely agree that the age of a fossils is "X million years old, plus or minus some small fraction," it's interesting that they are to be doubted because some vaguely written, non-peer-reviewed ancient text says something different.
It seems kind of strange to me that Ussher could have thought that that universe began on the 7th day, the Sabbath.
Cordially,
God was in a very big hurry those first few days. All the physical laws were accelerated beyond our current uniform observations. Light crossed the universe with the spread of His Almighty hand. Geology was affected by those accelerated laws making it like a molten meringue on the pie He would one day send His Son.
The pottery wheel was spinning a lot faster than the one today.
There is no magical 1 Day equals 1,000 Years in the Bible. There is a passage that says to God 1,000 years is as a day, but it also a day is as 1,000 years. It simply means that because God is an infinite being time does not affect Him the way it affects us. I think you are confusing the 1,000 Millenial kingdom with the 7th week described in the book of Daniel. The actual Hebrew states "There are 7 sets of sevens determined for your people." Sometimes a "set of seven" means a week. Sometimes a "set of seven" means seven years. It was incorrectly translated into english as "week" because that is the most common usage of the term. The 7th "set of seven" is the period right before the 1,000 year Millenial Kingdom.
How this is all interpreted practically depends on your theological leanings, but that is generally accepted by biblical scholars as the correct "lingistical" interpretation.
Regards,
IIPeter 3:8 Is very clear and it is not written in Hebrew
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord AS A THOUSAND YEARS, AND A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY.
Christ said "TIME" was shortened so Daniel's weeks have been cut short.
Lords Day is a thousand years and the Prophets continually speak to the Lords Day, in that day, etc....
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