Posted on 10/14/2004 5:23:48 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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- A 12-year-old San Antonio boy died Saturday afternoon south of Giddings when he was struck on the top of the head by the recoil of a Ruger .454 gun he was firing. The boy, identified by the Lee County Sheriff’s Office as Marcus Wall, was pronounced dead at the scene by Justice of the Peace Paul Fischer.
Sheriff’s Deputy Rodney Meyer stated that the victim and his father, Marc Wall, were with friends dove hunting on the Zoch place off County Road 233. Deputy Meyer reported that when the hunters took a break for lunch, they began shooting a variety of guns owned within the group. The Ruger .454 Casull was purportedly owned by Joe Ramsey of Austin.
According to the Sheriff’s report, when Marcus asked to shoot the Ruger, Ramsey told the young boy the gun was too large for him to shoot. However, allegedly it was later “ OK’ed for him [Marcus] to shoot the gun”. The report did not identify who gave permission for the child to shoot, though Ramsey stood by the boy when he fired.
From the Sheriff’s account of the incident, Marcus was instructed how to hold and shoot the gun. “Mr. Ramsey assisted the victim [when taking aim] by holding his hand above the victim’s [hands] for the recoil,” explained Deputy Meyer.
When the gun was fired, the gun recoiled upward, hitting Marcus in the head causing head trauma. The gun’s owner, Ramsey, received injury to his fingers but was not transported for medical attention.
The Sheriff’s Office 911 dispatch received two calls reporting the incident, though only the second caller could identify their location. Deputy Mike York advised dispatch that he was in the area and had been flagged down and directed to the location. Upon arrival at the scene, Deputy York radioed to dispatch to cancel the call for an ambulance and to send out a Justice of the Peace.
The recoil velocity of the Ruger .454 has been noted for its strength for some time. In a May 2001 article in Shooting Times, author Dick Metcalf reported that “...when the .454 Casull version of the Super Redhawk was introduced in 1999, Ruger spokesmen candidly acknowledged they did not expect the new chambering to be shot a lot for casual plinking or for steel-target competition. Its recoil was simply too severe.”
Deputy Meyer stated that the case is still under investigation.
what the heck does your buddy's gun have to do with this??
You don't reckon it's that feller we see on MLK in San Antonio
looking for a solid quarter? Nah...
Not an urban legend...I know a family member and the names and places fit...don't know all the details...but they did talk about the recoil causing the accident...although I thought he actually was shot in the head. The date is wrong...it happened on a Saturday, but it seems that it occurred a couple of months ago.
You were drinking at 5 or 6?
If evolver=Dad, yes.
I'm a little guy, and so muscling this thing is out of the question - it's real bad advice anyway. You MUST be firmly planted with the axis of force horizontal and you had better be wearing gloves. Even so I do not find it pleasant to shoot.
Here's why not:
One thing to keep in mind looking at those kinds of cartridges is the difference in size between modern automatic pistol cartridges which were designed from the ground for smokeless power, and the large revolver cartridges and things like the 45/70 which originally were blackpowder cartridges and survived the changeover to smokeless powder. Those things all pack major-league wallop.
This one's going in the lexicon, isn't it?
Excuse me while my beeber slinks off to tiajunna.
The .44 mag does not bother me but I definitely think it is about all I want to shoot. I have no problem with those who do like those hand cannons but they are just not for me.
I do think I would like to have the guns, as they are nice but I would shoot reduced loads in them.
I think one of the Automag's came in .30 carbine. I've shot the M1 and was never really impressed. The biggest pistol I ever shot was a T/C in 7mm something or another. It had a big scope on it, and was heavy. I shot it once, and for the life of me, I don't know why anyone would shoot one of those things.
Does it kick more than a S&W 500 ?
I have no idea. I have never fired the S&W 500.
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There are a lot more at the Accurate Reloading website:
no kidding! my dad did the same thing, same age, same gun. Are we related??
He had me hold it a little firmer so it didn't knock me in the gourd and if I remember correctly, he was helping me hold onto it, but loosly. I got the message, that was all it took.
That reminds me of this old film i've seen on the net:
http://www.dglang.com/TalibanTraining.mpg
When my daughter was around 10, I took her out and shot a tomato can with a 9mm 90 grain hp. I had actually been training her in gun safety long before that but wanted her to see just what damage a bullet can do.
My dad said, "Well, there you go. Now you know not to pick one of those things up like you know how to use it."
Hmmm, we may be separated at birth.
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