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Gun Recoil Claims Life of 12 Year Old Boy
The Lexington Leader ^ | October 14, 2004

Posted on 10/14/2004 5:23:48 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR

Lee County Sheriff Chief Deputy Rodney Meyer leads the investigation of the death Marcus Wall. The investigation continues into the accident.

- A 12-year-old San Antonio boy died Saturday afternoon south of Giddings when he was struck on the top of the head by the recoil of a Ruger .454 gun he was firing. The boy, identified by the Lee County Sheriff’s Office as Marcus Wall, was pronounced dead at the scene by Justice of the Peace Paul Fischer.

Sheriff’s Deputy Rodney Meyer stated that the victim and his father, Marc Wall, were with friends dove hunting on the Zoch place off County Road 233. Deputy Meyer reported that when the hunters took a break for lunch, they began shooting a variety of guns owned within the group. The Ruger .454 Casull was purportedly owned by Joe Ramsey of Austin.

According to the Sheriff’s report, when Marcus asked to shoot the Ruger, Ramsey told the young boy the gun was too large for him to shoot. However, allegedly it was later “ OK’ed for him [Marcus] to shoot the gun”. The report did not identify who gave permission for the child to shoot, though Ramsey stood by the boy when he fired.

From the Sheriff’s account of the incident, Marcus was instructed how to hold and shoot the gun. “Mr. Ramsey assisted the victim [when taking aim] by holding his hand above the victim’s [hands] for the recoil,” explained Deputy Meyer.

When the gun was fired, the gun recoiled upward, hitting Marcus in the head causing head trauma. The gun’s owner, Ramsey, received injury to his fingers but was not transported for medical attention.

The Sheriff’s Office 911 dispatch received two calls reporting the incident, though only the second caller could identify their location. Deputy Mike York advised dispatch that he was in the area and had been flagged down and directed to the location. Upon arrival at the scene, Deputy York radioed to dispatch to cancel the call for an ambulance and to send out a Justice of the Peace.

The recoil velocity of the Ruger .454 has been noted for its strength for some time. In a May 2001 article in Shooting Times, author Dick Metcalf reported that “...when the .454 Casull version of the Super Redhawk was introduced in 1999, Ruger spokesmen candidly acknowledged they did not expect the new chambering to be shot a lot for casual plinking or for steel-target competition. Its recoil was simply too severe.”

Deputy Meyer stated that the case is still under investigation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; boygun; recoil; ruger454casull; thezochplace
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This article has that urban legend feel to it.
1 posted on 10/14/2004 5:23:49 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR

Friend of mine has a Ruger .30 revolver... same ammo as my carbine, I'm still trying to convince him he wants to sell it to me cheap.


2 posted on 10/14/2004 5:27:18 PM PDT by djf
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How very sad for the boy's family.

I recall getting thumped in the forehead by my Dad's 45 colt new service revolver when I was about 5 or 6. (Yes there was beer involved)


3 posted on 10/14/2004 5:28:09 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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Friend of mine has a Ruger .30 revolver... same ammo as my carbine

I've got a buddy with one of those - great pistol. His trick is shooting bottlecaps with it - at 250 yards. (With a spotter, he succeeds a surprising percentage of the time.)

4 posted on 10/14/2004 5:30:10 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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A 12-year-old San Antonio boy died Saturday afternoon south of Giddings when he was struck on the top of the head by the recoil of a Ruger .454 gun he was firing.

That's no urban legend. I have 2 of these guns, they kick HARD. That being said I would never shoot both at once as there is a very real possibility of that barrel and front site making a nice impression in your skull.

Whoever let that boy shoot should be on charges. I'm all for letting kids shoot, but SAFELY. Unless you are at least 18 or are built like a fullback, you have ZERO business shooting that model of gun.

5 posted on 10/14/2004 5:30:51 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: TC Rider
I recall getting thumped in the forehead by my Dad's 45 colt new service revolver when I was about 5 or 6. (Yes there was beer involved)

The evolver had been drinking?

6 posted on 10/14/2004 5:30:55 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Sad.....and freaky. First case of its kind that I'm aware of.


7 posted on 10/14/2004 5:31:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: TERMINATTOR

I would hate to be the guy who gave the kid the OK to fire that hand cannon.

be a long time living with that.


8 posted on 10/14/2004 5:32:28 PM PDT by Pompah (The price of greatness is responsibility)
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To: TERMINATTOR
This article has that urban legend feel to it.

It does have an urban-legendish feel to it, but I have to say that I've seen kids ding themselves pretty good with just manual tools (like a hammer) when they don't have proper adult supervision. Can't rule this one out quite yet.

9 posted on 10/14/2004 5:32:37 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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The revolver had been drinking?

Correction above - please don't turn this into a crevo thread!

10 posted on 10/14/2004 5:32:55 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

this is a urban legend. I heard someone call Dr Laura about 3 weeks ago with the same story only it was a different gun and a different place.


11 posted on 10/14/2004 5:33:49 PM PDT by frakster
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To: TERMINATTOR

If it did happen, it's a terrible, one-in-a-million tragedy. My deepest sympathies to all involved.


12 posted on 10/14/2004 5:35:22 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: TC Rider
The only time I ever fired a weapon, i was with a friend of mine (we were both 19 or 20) and he took me to his Uncle's property north of Gridley, CA.

My friend gave me a shot gun (I have no idea what kind) and told me how to stand and hold it. I remember his last words being, "Brace your self, it's got some kick to it."

Well, I'm a big guy. So I'm thinking, "Yeah, yeah... a little kick, I can take it."

So I aimed at the target he set up, pulled the trigger, and yup... you guessed it, landed flat on my back. (Missed the target, too)
13 posted on 10/14/2004 5:37:02 PM PDT by birbear (<this page left blank>)
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To: TERMINATTOR

I don't own one, but I've shot the .454 Cassul several times. I'm a fairly good sized fella - over 200 pounds. That sucker has my respect in spades. Its a hand cannon. Anybody lettin' a 12-year-old fire one is a criminally negligent idiot.


14 posted on 10/14/2004 5:38:02 PM PDT by timberlandko (Murphy was an optimist.)
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To: TERMINATTOR

My ex once shot my .50AE Desert Eagle. Once.


15 posted on 10/14/2004 5:41:58 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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Actually, it is strange but just last night I was recalling shooting pistols when I was a kid. My friend's dad was a gun collector and we used to go out into the counrtyside. That day I shot an uzzi, a 45, a ruger, and a luger. The uzzi was fun but the pistols freaked me out because I was only used to shooting riffles and shotguns. I was really scared of the kick on these pistols. I didn't really want to shoot them but I felt some peer pressure to do so. Anyways, I was just thinking about this last night and the anxiety I felt shooting those pistols that day. Strange. Anyways, its a very sad story about that kid.


16 posted on 10/14/2004 5:43:15 PM PDT by Avenger
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Yah, 454 is the elephant gun of handguns.

No business shooting something so large at that age/size/weight. Total lack of common sense on the adults part.


17 posted on 10/14/2004 5:44:29 PM PDT by Stopislamnow
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To: timberlandko
I don't own one, but I've shot the .454 Cassul several times. I'm a fairly good sized fella - over 200 pounds. That sucker has my respect in spades. Its a hand cannon. Anybody lettin' a 12-year-old fire one is a criminally negligent idiot.

Like you, I don't own one but I have shot one. It kicks like a mule (make that 10 mules). I agree with you. It is not a pistol for a 12 year old. Only an idiot would allow someone that young to handle one of those.

18 posted on 10/14/2004 5:45:35 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: TERMINATTOR

Not having hunted doves for a decade I might be wrong here, but, I thought you had to wait until after noon time to hunt this migratory bird.


19 posted on 10/14/2004 5:46:49 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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20 posted on 10/14/2004 5:47:29 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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