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Kerry vs Bush Pre-Debate Thread

Posted on 10/08/2004 3:55:00 PM PDT by Orange1998

Edited on 10/08/2004 4:04:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Let's Roll.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: debate; napalminthemorning; seconddebate; wot
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To: drangundsturm
Hehe. No, the "L" word is LIBERAL I do not expect to hear W use the term "liberal" in the debate. That is Limaugh shorthand. Does not resonate to the sheeple.

W needs to use words like consistent, focused on task, HONEST, core values that do not blow in the wind...

Like that. "Liberal" does not score.

501 posted on 10/08/2004 5:24:46 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Shqipo

I was getting nervous and I'm already nervous about the debate. No more. They just wanted to make it exciting.


502 posted on 10/08/2004 5:24:51 PM PDT by mikemc282002 (Don't Worry, We Have Tom Brady - All Your Super Bowls Are Belong To Us!)
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To: VA40
And the ABC narrator added: Saddam Hussein has a long history of harboring terrorists, Carlos the Jackal, Abu Nidal, Abu Abas – the most notorious terrorists of their era all found shelter and support at one time in Baghdad. Intelligence sources say bin Laden's long relationship with the Iraqis began as he helped Sudan's fundamentalist government in their efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction. Three weeks after (Clinton's bombing of a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory) on August 31st, bin Laden reaches out to his friends in Iraq and Sudan. Iraq's Vice President arrives in Khartoum to show his support for the Sudanese after the U.S. attack. ABC News has learned that during these meetings senior Sudanese officials acting on behalf of bin Laden asked if Saddam Hussein would grant him asylum. Iraq was indeed interested. ABC News has learned that in December an Iraqi intelligence chief ... (who in 1999 was Iraq's ambassador to Turkey) made a secret trip to Afghanistan to meet with bin Laden." During the meeting, ABC says their sources reported that "bin Laden was told he would be welcome in Baghdad.

ABC in 1999.

ABC now: < crickets >

503 posted on 10/08/2004 5:24:58 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Always ask yourself, does this pass the Global Test?)
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To: Howlin
Are we having fun yet?

Paul Espinoza of St. Louis, a supporter of President Bush (news - web sites), argues with Rachel Mercer of Orange County, Calif., a supporter of Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) prior to the second presidential debate on the campus of Washington University in St. Louis, Friday, Oct. 8, 2004. Mercer is a student at Washington University. (AP Photo/Bill Boyce)

504 posted on 10/08/2004 5:25:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: jwalsh07

Halprin can Kizz my Azz


505 posted on 10/08/2004 5:25:10 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions~$1.00 Todays Special: Halfbaked~50. cents)
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To: hole_n_one
The official LIVE thread will be posted at 8:59:59.000001 pm edt

Hehe...

506 posted on 10/08/2004 5:25:22 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: RoseofTexas
I've been praying all day - but nothing this eloquent. Beautiful Rose

GOD please be our defender tonight! Let the American people see the goodness and the steadfastness of our President! Cover him, Lord, under the shadow of your wings! Place favor on him, sweet Jesus! Let his enemies be put to shame! In Jesus name...AMEN!

507 posted on 10/08/2004 5:25:26 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: MeekOneGOP

BREAKING DRUDGE: LEAKED MEMO TELLING STAFF TO THROW IT TO KERRY!


508 posted on 10/08/2004 5:25:27 PM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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To: mrplind

Here's the text of the memo:

Halperin Memo Dated Friday October 8, 2004

It goes without saying that the stakes are getting very high for the country and the campaigns - and our responsibilities become quite grave

I do not want to set off (sp?) and endless colloquy that none of us have time for today - nor do I want to stifle one. Please respond if you feel you can advance the discussion.

The New York Times (Nagourney/Stevenson) and Howard Fineman on the web both make the same point today: the current Bush attacks on Kerry involve distortions and taking things out of context in a way that goes beyond what Kerry has done.

Kerry distorts, takes out of context, and mistakes all the time, but these are not central to his efforts to win.

We have a responsibility to hold both sides accountable to the public interest, but that doesn't mean we reflexively and artificially hold both sides "equally" accountable when the facts don't warrant that.

I'm sure many of you have this week felt the stepped up Bush efforts to complain about our coverage. This is all part of their efforts to get away with as much as possible with the stepped up, renewed efforts to win the election by destroying Senator Kerry at least partly through distortions.

It's up to Kerry to defend himself, of course. But as one of the few news organizations with the skill and strength to help voters evaluate what the candidates are saying to serve the public interest. Now is the time for all of us to step up and do that right.


509 posted on 10/08/2004 5:25:48 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Howlin

I'm here .. anything good happening??


510 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:03 PM PDT by Mo1 (The President's job is not to pass a global test, but to protect the American people.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I thought that Kerry had treatment for cancer of the prostrate and was recently declared 'cured' by his doctors.
If he had his prostrate gland removed, a side effect is impotence.


511 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: StarFan
Hey, he just added 60 cloves of garlic to one mushroom. Exciting...
512 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:14 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Jewels1091

No.......this is the PRE-DEBATE thread; a DEBATE thread will be posted closer to debate time.


513 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:20 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Wait4Truth

"Professors seem to be uniformly against President Bush - most are far-leftists"

I know. That's what I had to keep telling myself before I decided to shoot the tv. ha! I've had the tv off all day for that very reason and my husband turned it on.


514 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:30 PM PDT by Raven281
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To: jwalsh07

To STRIKE OUT AT ABC WITH RIGHTEOUS ANGER, contact the following:

* ABC Audience Response line at 818-460-7477. Press 4 to leave a message.
* ABC News Washington DC Bureau at 202-222-7777, fax 202-222-7684
* ABC News Political Director Mark Halperin at 212-456-4545, fax 212-456-2795, email mark.halperin@abc.com
* ABC News President David Westin at 212-456-6200, fax 212-456-4292
* ABC President Alex Wallau at 818-460-5500, fax 212-456-2795, email alex.wallau@abc.com


515 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:38 PM PDT by Petronski (KERRY'S GLOBAL TEST: Pleasing those who were bribed by Saddam.)
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To: mabelkitty

Is this news really shocking to anyone. ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN - it's all the same thing. They should register as 527's so they can be regulated.


516 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:53 PM PDT by GOPRaleigh (Vote for Bush - It may save your life.)
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To: Mo1

Just you, baby!


517 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:58 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

"The official LIVE thread will be posted at 8:59:59.000001 pm edt"

*ahem*

On your marks...

Get set....

Now wait just a minute there, keyboard cowboy(s). ;)

Who's going to start this *yes now it's for real*, super duper, handy dandy "official" live thread? ;)

In any case, someone please ping me if the thread changes. :)


518 posted on 10/08/2004 5:26:59 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Oh, by the way -- thanks for the Internet, Al!)
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To: John Robinson
I appreciate what you and Jim do. Thank you SOOOOooo much!


519 posted on 10/08/2004 5:27:03 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (The GOP throw their trash out. The DemocRATS worship theirs.)
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To: proud American in Canada
I just want to add my thanks.

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520 posted on 10/08/2004 5:27:11 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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