Posted on 10/04/2004 12:03:24 PM PDT by MississippiMan
The issue of what Kerry brought with him to the podium is not a petty one. A candidate who had simply a list of talking points on paper would be at a huge advantage vs. the other participant who played by the rules.
Based on the most recent reports here, it sounds as if even Fox News is about to forget and drop the issue, since they've declared that they're 99% certain the object in question is a pen.
It's hard to fathom what's going on here, unless they're viewing an incomplete clip of what took place. For even the low-resolution copies of the event that are posted online make it blatantly clear that, yes, he had a PEN (OBJECT 1) in his RIGHT hand, but he also removed a LIGHT-COLORED RECTANGULAR OBJECT (OBJECT 2) from inside his jacket with his LEFT hand. He then handles the object in a fashion that suggests UNFOLDING, and places it on the deck of the podium.
As mentioned already, I am a digital forensics examiner. I have a state-of-the-art forensic video system. I have briefly examined the low-resolution clips of the event, and at first impression, OBJECT 2 appears to be a folded sheet or sheets of light-colored paper. It is DEFINITELY rectangular. It is DEFINITELY light-colored. And it is DEFINITELY distinct and separate from OBJECT 1.
I would very much like to examine a high-resolution version of the clip; ideally this will be an uncompressed digital video file digitized from a digital broadcast master. If anyone has any connections or access to one of the networks or C-SPAN or whatever, and can obtain said file, it would be immensely helpful.
This is about playing by the rules, folks. I for one am sick and tired of sitting back and watching the rules broken without consequence. It is high time to hold people accountable. That applies to the candidates and the media, whether the media member in question is CBS or Fox News Channel. If it's wrong, it's wrong. And if they're reporting that Kerry brought nothing but a pen to the podium, THEY'RE WRONG.
MM
well where did he get the pen in his right hand b/c he had just shaken W's hand --- he wouldn't let go of him
i still say it could be a text pager device - they have some very small one-line of scrolling text pagers that could easily be used to send messages to him.
There's too many killjoys on these threads. "Don't!" "Stop!"
Thank you MM, for your continued work to expose this Cheating by Kerry in Debate #1.
I also have examined the Low Res tapes over and over again. I also saw a Light colored item which I believe are Notes or talking points which he unfolded and spread on the deck of the podium. Kerry then immediately started writing or faking that he was writing before the first question.
We expel Cadets from the Air Force Academy for this type of Cheating on tests. Certainly cheating on the Election For President of the United States is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than a test at the Academy!
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Could it not have been a handkerchief? Even if Kerry had notes and, thus, cheated, what are we - what is anyone - supposed to do about it?
I think it's more likely Lehrer pre-fed him the questions.
Agree with the first sentence. Disagree with the second. There is evidence. That means the liberals already lost.
He was counting on the fact that nothing would be done about it. That appears to be the case.
They cheated, and nothing will happen here. I bet the next time, Kerry will be scrutinized like nobody's business though. Cameras will be looking at his hands and ears VERY carefully.
Exactly! Look for Monsieur Kerrrreeeeeeeee to ask to be excused for a quick trip to the Loo. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
I won't believe fox until I see the video. Where is the 99% proof pic? They were slow on the Swift vet story and Rathergate. Fox is suspect just like the rest of the Media.
If they have the proof why not post it? It would be a major story for them. They could show how fair and balanced they are, coming to Kerry's defense and all.
In order for it to make any difference, there'd need to be solid proof of what the paper contained. I don't see any way we will ever know the truth.
That said; the very least they can do is properly identify what happened here.
I mean; we do not even hear anymore about Sandy Berger; all is quiet re Rather's memo; and the 'wall of silence' continues to protect the Liberals; Liberals who continually lie; cheat, steal. . .just do whatEVER it takes to insure they get ahead.
I am sick of the way their transgressions are excused - with a 'move on folks' or worse; 'move on you lying conspiracy theorists'. . .they represent the worst case of broken values; yet they are celebrated.
That would make sense, but wouldn't explain what he took out of his jacket.
No, Kerry has already said it was a pen.
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No, Kerry has already said it was a pen.
It being paper would be enough for some people. This election hinges on a few undecided people. The American people do not like liars and cheats. It may be enough to convince just a few people to vote against Kerry.
That would make sense, but wouldn't explain what he took out of his jacket.
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