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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

I'm on a dial-up, now please knock it off!!!


3,341 posted on 09/30/2004 9:50:02 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Freemyland

"I suspect that it in the end, the public may conclude that Kerry is better at arguing about policies, but Bush's policies are better, and he is better at implementing them."
Your post reminds me of the lyrics from a My Fair Lady song... Show Me...
snip..
"Never do I ever want
to hear another word.
There isn't one
I haven't heard.
Here we are together
in what ought to be a dream;
Say one more word and
I'll scream!

Sing me no song!
Read me no rhyme!
Don't waste my time,
Show me!

Please don't implore
Beg on the seats
Don't make all the speach
Show me! " ...snip


3,342 posted on 09/30/2004 9:50:10 PM PDT by antceecee (God Bless President Bush. FOUR MORE YEARS!)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Bush did good!


3,343 posted on 09/30/2004 9:50:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: jimbo123

"Kerry's plan to give nuclear fuel to the mullahs in Iraq is probably the most reckless policy statement to come out of Kerry's mouth so far in the campaign."

Well, all I'm saying is don't underestimate the recklessness of canceling the bunker busters either - they are both on a par. All these petty dictators are burying their arsenals deeper and deeper - nuke bunker busters is the only way to get at them so it is a deterrent too.


3,344 posted on 09/30/2004 9:50:30 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

Tonkin's graphic dont bother me at all... The pics are already in my browsers buffer from other threads so it really doesnt take any extra time for them to load. Kerry is a traitor and somebody should say it loud and strong...


3,345 posted on 09/30/2004 9:51:00 PM PDT by WashStateGirl
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To: In The Defense of Liberty
But as far as Tonkin, his Vet status does not give him the right to post graphics that add nothing to the discussion but instead killd every patriot on a modem.

Lighten up, Francis.
3,346 posted on 09/30/2004 9:51:09 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk, you rock. (I'm okay...I've been told I can talk smack with the best of 'em. LOL)


3,347 posted on 09/30/2004 9:51:23 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: Brimack34
Plain speaking is so foreign to these pundits they will never get it. Rewatching W told about the widow and Yaaawn rebuts about his watching people killed in Combat and coming back to make sure that doesnt happen again. W was absolutely brilliant by forcing the rebut, I could never tell my troops wrong war, wrong time...follow me. Beautiful.

Pray for W and Our Troops

3,348 posted on 09/30/2004 9:51:30 PM PDT by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: FITZ
I didn't mean to imply that I thought Clinton was charming. I just mean that a great many voters did--he was "Slick Willie" after all. My point is that Kerry is an arrogant elitist and no amount of coaching or spray-on tanning is gonna change that.
3,349 posted on 09/30/2004 9:51:46 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("I love the smell of ruined careers in the morning. It smells like ... like victory!")
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To: cyncooper

Yep,

While Kerry is the much more polished speaker, I can't remember one thing he said. Yet, as the dust settles from this engagement I do remember Bush's arguments. 24-48 hours is going to change the way people look at this debate. Especially as people begin looking at some of Kerry's claims. I'm also curious as to how the debate affected undecided women voters. I think Bush may have brought a few more into the fold.


3,350 posted on 09/30/2004 9:51:56 PM PDT by xwraith
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To: FastCoyote

I agree. Kerry's plans to give nuclear fuel to the mullahs in Iran and shutting down our bunker buster programs are both insane policy initiatives


3,351 posted on 09/30/2004 9:52:24 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: prairiebreeze

bttt


3,352 posted on 09/30/2004 9:52:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: george wythe
[O/T] I live in Hampton and am an alumnus of George Wythe Jr. High. From your screen name, do/did you live in Hampton too?

And it's past my bedtime, too. LOL.

3,353 posted on 09/30/2004 9:52:45 PM PDT by Lee Shore (Oy, vay!)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

Actually, your posts are more disruptive than Tonk's.

This has been hashed over on FR and we decided it's fine.

Give it a rest.


3,354 posted on 09/30/2004 9:52:56 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bush spanked Kerry on No.Korea.
Also, Bush essentially told Kerry that, because of Kerry's views and proposals, he was unfit to be President.

Bush won!!


3,355 posted on 09/30/2004 9:53:29 PM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I like you! You're funny and smart.


3,356 posted on 09/30/2004 9:54:00 PM PDT by MagnumRancid
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; In The Defense of Liberty; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; ..
Can't you just set up to load "no pictures or graphics" and speed it all up?

Liberty - I know what you're saying, and it DOES affect me directly - but I'm still getting the pages loaded.

Now I'll just sit back and watch you question another's service, and the expected responses.

3,357 posted on 09/30/2004 9:54:03 PM PDT by tongue-tied
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To: Happy2BMe

I agree with you NOW. But on first blush I was a little sickened at seeing Pres. Bush squirm so. I got a real charge out of the show when Kerry made one more definitive flip on the "If we knew then what we know now..." questions. I saw 'W' shoot a glance over like, "What in the devil position is it going to be NOW!" It was funny to me.

I guess being back in FreeperLand has put me back in perspective. Kerry did not change any fundamentals.


3,358 posted on 09/30/2004 9:54:21 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Eggs Actly! This election is about our survival in a war against fanatical bastards who want us all dead! Skerry came across as not understanding the precarious state of today and as whimpy in begging permission from 'allies' like France and Germany in order to kill the bad guys ... not to mention the feckless repetitions of 'seek the blessings of the U.N. before taking action against those who have murdered our fellow citizens'. I'm a soccer granddaddy, and the prospect of a democrat from the current democrat party being at the helm of state scares the begeebers out of me! It hasn't been enough for those demonspawn to serve up alive unborn children for abortion slaughter in order to get female votes, now they want to serve up fellow citizens for terrorist targeting in order to get the rest of the world to like us as we die! May God have mercy upon US if we the people, the sovereigns of this nation, do not cast a decisive rejection of this demonspawn party.


3,359 posted on 09/30/2004 9:54:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Lee Shore

"no president would EVER use nukes except in retaliation for a nuclear attack on us or our closest allies. It just wouldn't be done"

In 2004, maybe not. In 2010 when Iran has twenty nukes and the Muslims have succeeded with a dirty bomb at the Superbowl, then it's a no brainer.


3,360 posted on 09/30/2004 9:55:11 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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