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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: usmom

It wasn't that bad, usmom. Some of the other Freepers are blowing things way outta proportion. They were expecting Bush to win the election tonight, apparently, forgetting that we still got more than a month to go. We need to conserve our ammo. Also, let me remind everybody, in 2000 there was lot of hand-wringing going on after the Bush-Gore debates. "Did Gore win? Oh no, Gore won didn't he! Excuse me while I put my head in the oven!" The funny thing is, all this week I've been seeing clips from those debates and their hilarious. Gore was such a child: rolling his eyes, SIGHING loudly, sweating profusely. Yet, we feared that this goober out-debated Bush. Same thing tonight. We saw a genuine human being talking to a manicured robot.


3,321 posted on 09/30/2004 9:45:31 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("I love the smell of ruined careers in the morning. It smells like ... like victory!")
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
Kerry tried to take all the best Bush has done and take credit for it before-the-fact.

In other words, he kept saying he would "hunt down and destroy Islamic terrorists wherever they may be" and then on the other hand followed that up with promising to be the first one to bring the troops home.

I didn't see a single thing new in the entire debate.

3,322 posted on 09/30/2004 9:45:39 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 33 more days until November 2nd.)
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To: marajade

I find Kerry very annoying. His hand jesters and shifting from side to side irritate me. I can't hear what he is saying because of it. I think he was too prepared! He knew exactly what he needed to say. Tin Foil On!


3,323 posted on 09/30/2004 9:45:43 PM PDT by gigi
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To: FastCoyote
Actually, you would use nuke bunker busters preemptively on buried wmd (nuke, bio, and chem).

Realistically, Coyote, no president would EVER use nukes except in retaliation for a nuclear attack on us or our closest allies. It just wouldn't be done.

3,324 posted on 09/30/2004 9:45:51 PM PDT by Lee Shore (Oy, vay!)
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To: flaglady47
Welcome to the Grim FReeper Club

You people would buy a used car from Kerry but buyers's remorse would have you back the next morning getting your money back.

Same thing happened tonight.

3,325 posted on 09/30/2004 9:45:56 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

It's only petty if YOU are not being affected. If you were on a modem it would suddenly be very, very important.


3,326 posted on 09/30/2004 9:46:27 PM PDT by In The Defense of Liberty (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Spot on! I agree with you completely.


3,327 posted on 09/30/2004 9:46:39 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: LincolnLover
DRUDGE: C-SPAN Secretly Tapes Lockhart Saying Debate Was A Draw

LOL

Even Joe Lockhart admitted (though he didn't intend for us to know it) that it was at BEST for them a draw. Those of us who said Bush won were correct.

I will allow myself to gloat a little. Jonah needs to get a grip usually. He tends to be a little nellyish.

3,328 posted on 09/30/2004 9:46:43 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Xenalyte

The gift that keeps on giving!


3,329 posted on 09/30/2004 9:46:45 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

LOL. Yes.


3,330 posted on 09/30/2004 9:47:10 PM PDT by Lee Shore (Oy, vay!)
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To: goldstategop
On second thought, Bush won the debate on the merits since he seemed sincere, authentic, likeable and direct. Kerry actually lost ground by appearing smarmy, fake, condescending, and a know-it-all.

Kerry clearly was the seasoned debater tonight. But being the person he is, HE CLEARLY WON THE DEBATE BEFORE HE LOST IT. People empathize with Bush and will connect with him as they look back on this first debate. How each came across personally will be better remembered than the words spoken or the delivery.
3,331 posted on 09/30/2004 9:47:22 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: nopardons

I agree Bush did just fine!

Got Kerry to admit he NEEDS the UN

Bush does not!

Bush WON!!!


3,332 posted on 09/30/2004 9:48:01 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: cyncooper

You know, the more I think about Jim Lehrer and his questions, the madder I am getting.

Kerry has one issue, right? And it just so happens that 99 percent of the questions in the "Foreign Policy" debate are about Iraq -- and nothing else.


And not just about Iraq, but about Bush's policies in Iraq.


3,333 posted on 09/30/2004 9:48:33 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: cyncooper
Even Joe Lockhart admitted (though he didn't intend for us to know it) that it was at BEST for them a draw. Those of us who said Bush won were correct.

I just saw Lockhart say that Kerry won the debate BIG TIME. And most of the polls coming in agree.

3,334 posted on 09/30/2004 9:48:55 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; In The Defense of Liberty; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; CWOJackson

I like seeing graphics... and I don't believe the slowness of the system, (and it was bad ) was due to the graphics!

There wasn't that much graphics !


3,335 posted on 09/30/2004 9:49:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
(Howlin pointed this out - I think it is a very accurate summation of who the debate winner is.)

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CNN/GALLUP POLL: Bush Lost Debate; Retains Double Digit Lead Over Kerry on Iraq, Terrorism
USA Today | Sept. 30, 2004 | USA Today/CNN/Gallup

Posted on 09/30/2004 9:32:20 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

2. Regardless of which candidate you happen to support, who do you think did the better job in the debate: John Kerry or George W. Bush?

Kerry 53%, Bush 37%

5. Next, regardless of which presidential candidate you support, please tell me if you think John Kerry or George W. Bush would better handle the situation in Iraq.

Bush 54%, Kerry 43% (Pre-debate: Bush 54%, Kerry 40%)

3,336 posted on 09/30/2004 9:49:26 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 33 more days until November 2nd.)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Don't be starting trouble with DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Just don't

Aim your anger at me


3,337 posted on 09/30/2004 9:49:31 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: netmilsmom

ping


3,338 posted on 09/30/2004 9:49:36 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist
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To: Jorge

Does Fox have any conservatives anymore?


3,339 posted on 09/30/2004 9:49:41 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: In The Defense of Liberty
It's only petty if YOU are not being affected. If you were on a modem it would suddenly be very, very important.

Well, being on a particular FreeRepublic thread has never been something I considered life or death, but maybe I'm just unusually self-sufficient. (I haven't had a modem for years...they still make them?)

3,340 posted on 09/30/2004 9:49:48 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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