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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate (Pre-Debate discussion)

Posted on 09/30/2004 3:50:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Edited on 09/30/2004 6:27:02 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

There have been several "live threads" posted today regarding the debate starting early this morning. Let's make this the official thread.

FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; americangigolo; bushwon; cuticlesforkerry; debate; debates; electionpresident; fingernails; firstdebate; flushthejohn; jonsquerry; livethread; lurch; manicure; official; orangeman
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To: txradioguy

"We must pass a 'global test' for preemptive action against a threat to America....".John Fhoney Kerry.


2,681 posted on 09/30/2004 7:47:31 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: All

Well, what I got out of the debate? Bush will make his choices on what is best for the US. Kerry will make his choices on what is best for the UN, sigh.


2,682 posted on 09/30/2004 7:48:03 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: altura
but not sure they pray.

Who would they pray to?

We pray to the Almighty God, in Jesus name.

We are on the right side.
2,683 posted on 09/30/2004 7:48:44 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: altura

KTLA talking head democrat says it was a slight win for Kerry but Bush didn't need to win. He's the incumbent and this debate was close enough to not hurt Bush.

I agree with his point about incumbency but I think Bush won.


2,684 posted on 09/30/2004 7:48:49 PM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: Jorge
Me too. Kerry is a loser and Bush is a great leader but this debate ended up making Bush look really weak. Stuttering and repeating himself and losing track of what he was saying NOT making all the good points he could have and should have made. Definitely a bummer.

LOL< the message that was drummed home tonight repeatedly and the message that will be continued to be drummed home is that Kerry can not be trusted to lead this country because he believes in nothing.

The debate was boring on both sides. Bush missed a lot of opportunities vis a vis Korea, Seante Intel Committee, Kerrys choice to be unilateral in Korea and multilateral in Iraq, Kerrys failure to suppot the first Gulf War when GHW Bush assembled the mother of all coalitions and whatnot but it won't matter.

Kerry had no answer for his political flip flops and he never will.

But here's a clue. After all is said and done the real news tonight is that Kerry has immeasurably hurt America by making it very difficult to now have forward basing in Iraq in case we have to fight Iran, Syria et al. He then went on to say he would unilaterrally stop the bunker buster program. Kerry went left and he's gonna pay for it in the weeks to come.

2,685 posted on 09/30/2004 7:49:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: kingattax

William Kristol.......what a putz

I second that emotion!


2,686 posted on 09/30/2004 7:49:14 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (We could make up the news on FR, but we'd RATHER not!)
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To: guitfiddlist
Got some emails from viewers of the debate that are not really up on things.

Both --- Kerry was lawyer like, talked in big words but no substance.
One --- Kerry unsure, a little frightening. Always seemed to say I can do hetter. How?
One --- Kerry seemed to be to nasty, no substance when you listened close.

Both --- Bush low key, steady and convincing.

Nothing changed, they go with Bush. Kerry didn't make the sale.
2,687 posted on 09/30/2004 7:49:14 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: MEG33

John Fhoney Kerry.....Excellent. Man I'm going to be up till three AM getting through this thread


2,688 posted on 09/30/2004 7:50:45 PM PDT by UB355
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To: Ax
I thought it was Dzherzhinsky Square, where KGB (Moscow Center) is located, named after "Iron Feliks." Good catch, though. My brother-in-law thought I'd be the only one that caught that.

Quick break, CBS News Poll on winner: Kerry 44%, Bush 26%, Tie 30%

Yeah, I remember "Treblinka" was a Nazi concentration camp. BTW, forgot about Dzherzhinsky Square although I do believe the place they tossed the political prisoners was Lubyanka (sp) Prison, either for keeps or on their way to the Gulags.
2,689 posted on 09/30/2004 7:50:48 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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To: Ax
I thought it was Dzherzhinsky Square, where KGB (Moscow Center) is located, named after "Iron Feliks." Good catch, though. My brother-in-law thought I'd be the only one that caught that.

Quick break, CBS News Poll on winner: Kerry 44%, Bush 26%, Tie 30%

Yeah, I remember "Treblinka" was a Nazi concentration camp. BTW, forgot about Dzherzhinsky Square although I do believe the place they tossed the political prisoners was Lubyanka (sp) Prison, either for keeps or on their way to the Gulags.
2,690 posted on 09/30/2004 7:51:01 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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To: MEG33

"We must pass a 'global test' for preemptive action against a threat to America....".John Fhoney Kerry.


Most disgusting statement of the night.

I can only imagine what that "global test" might be.

Somewhere tonite...the terrorists in all their little rat holes are rooting....CHEERING for a Kerry win next month.


2,691 posted on 09/30/2004 7:51:17 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: Lexinom

I scored it according to the truth as I know it.

Bush was truthful. Kerry lied.


2,692 posted on 09/30/2004 7:51:36 PM PDT by DonnerT (Let Unilateralirality Reign!)
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To: Fedora; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; Travis McGee; onyx; ...


Thanks for the straight line:

http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html






2,693 posted on 09/30/2004 7:51:43 PM PDT by devolve ( -HEINZ-KERRY - LIFESTYLES Of The RICH & FLAMING! - http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html --)
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To: demlosers

Trying to edit the closed-caption transcript -- much of it came out looking like Klingon ;-(

May have to get it from the on-line news sources...


2,694 posted on 09/30/2004 7:51:45 PM PDT by mikrofon (De Great Debate)
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To: January24th

The Prez missed the final point. kerry reverted to 1972 claiming the greatest threat to the country is nuclear destruction. The response should have been homeland protection from whatever source. Can't believe something so self-evident sliped away.


2,695 posted on 09/30/2004 7:51:56 PM PDT by Camachee
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To: Reborn

Short and sweet synopsis

Would make a great tagline.


2,696 posted on 09/30/2004 7:52:22 PM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: jwalsh07

Its like a deposition. The testimony freezes the deponent's view. Kerry won the debate but some of the things he said may yet come back to haunt him.


2,697 posted on 09/30/2004 7:52:33 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Why don't you go and doof your own boofen?)
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To: All

Wow! That was fun and very fastpaced! I just enjoyed reading what everyone had to say--I couldn't get through to make a comment. God bless the president--hope he is even stronger for the next debate.


2,698 posted on 09/30/2004 7:52:44 PM PDT by luvie (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: Jorge

Kerry made some statements that Bush didn't rebut, like Bush was dishonest in his state of the Union speech about Iraq pursuing yellowcake, which is a lie. He also didn't challenge the point about our troops not having body armor. I thought for sure Bush would jump all over that, since Kerry voted against it.


2,699 posted on 09/30/2004 7:53:03 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Sorry for not getting back to you right away. I only saw a few minutes of the debate -- I've been paying bills here.

How did it go? I've seen a lot of mixed reviews here.

2,700 posted on 09/30/2004 7:53:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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