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Kerry Debate Predictions (—it only counts if it's BEFOREHAND!)
My brainium | 09/30/04 | Daniel J. Phillips

Posted on 09/30/2004 8:01:24 AM PDT by BibChr

Having predictively nailed John McCain, I'd like to offer my brief thoughts on what Kerry will do tonight, and invite yours.

Today's Democratic Party's notion of Real Leadership could be defined thus: the ability to say, with the most nuanced conviction, "Wahh!!"

And so, since the Swift Both Vets' ads and Bush's ads have scored some tellingly accurate direct hits, and since those hits have cost Kerry dearly, I think this is Kerry's biggest plan. I think that he is being advised that the knockout punch will be to cry and moan and complain, and to put the President on the defensive. He will whine that the ads are mean-spirited and despicable. He will bellyache that they're the worst he's ever seen. And since evidently this vampire hasn't yet been staked with sufficient authority, he will whimper that (sing it with me) his Patriotism is Being Questioned.

The design of this will be to force the President to be on the defensive, to apologize, to disown.

Now, what Mr. Bush should say (but won't) is to ask, "So let's review. I'd like Mr. Kerry to say what I have said so far, repeatedly, about his patriotism, and about these ads. And if he can't, I'd like him to explain why anyone should think he'd hear tonight what he's failed to hear for lo these many weeks."

Or he should say (but won't), "I support Mr. Kerry's right to free speech. Does he not support the same right to other veterans, if that speech is critical of him?"

Or he should say (but won't), "I have wondered again and again: what exactly did Mr. Kerry mean when he said, 'Bring it on'? Now all we hear is 'Call it off!'"

Or he should say (but won't), "Someone should tell Mr. Kerry that being President is a rough job. It inevitable involves being the target of a lot of harsh criticism. If he can't take the pressure at this point, when he is selling his strength of character to the nation, perhaps he should reconsider his own immediate career plans."

So, Kerry will say "Wah!" about twelve different times, in about twelve different ways. I'm betting that's his main plan.

His other supposed knockout punch will be to ask where bin Laden is.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: callitoff; debates; hestallandhesorange; kerry; predictions; sorryorange; sorryorangebutt; trafficcone; waaaah; waah; wah
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To: BibChr
He'll point his finger alot -- at Bush, at the the audience, at the ceiling, whatever.

I also think he'll say things like "There were no WMD, Mr. Bush", using the prez's name condescendingly like he did in the Weld debates. It will make him sound bored with this provincial little president and oh-so-superior (he believes).

41 posted on 09/30/2004 8:31:23 AM PDT by workerbee
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To: BibChr
Bush will actually laugh at something Kerry says.

Kerry will sweat A LOT!

42 posted on 09/30/2004 8:32:00 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: BibChr
Okay. After tonight's debate, the Dems, in desperation, will stage a phoney assassination attempt on their candidate. The idea will be to blame "right-wingers", and to finally create an emotional bond between the voters and Kerry, by showing their war hero bravely holding up under enemy fire.

However, the Dems will have failed to actually give their candidate the heads-up about what's coming, and he will instead scream like a girl in front of the cameras...

So what do I win if this happens?

43 posted on 09/30/2004 8:32:21 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: BibChr
Michael Ramirez had a great cartoon about Gore's success in the debates before the last election. I've tried for an hour to find that gem so I could post it here as my prediction (just changing the name from gore to kerry).

Since I can't find it, I'll describe it:

Gore is at home plate, baseball bat in hand, and he's pointing in the direction where he intends to knock the ball out of the park.

Meanwhile, behind gore, you can see that the ball has arrived in the catcher's glove and the umpire has already called the batter "out". ;)

Change the name from gore to kerry and that's my prediction. I just wish I had a link to Ramirez's classic cartoon. ;)

44 posted on 09/30/2004 8:34:51 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: BibChr

I predict:

1) Kerry will come off sounding as pompous as he really is.

2) President Bush will come off sounding sincere and likeable.

3) Kerry will ignore the rules of the debate and address the President directly, ask him questions and point fingers.

4) Kerry will interupt the President at least once.

5) Kerry will attempt to make jokes directed at the President and the crowd will love it but America will hate it, ultimately moving the swing firmly into the R column.


45 posted on 09/30/2004 8:34:58 AM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: BibChr
I sure hope Kerry shows his true colors (Coppertone orange and commie pinko red), but I'm not certain yet he will. You can be sure he's getting a boatload of professional advice. I watched his two speeches before the American Legion and the National Guard. Sure, his speeches bombed, but his mannerisms were so coached (especially at the beginning when he was most nervous) that I think if he'd have had an agreeable audience he would have done great.

I don't know, my kids tell me I worry too much. I hope I'm wrong.

46 posted on 09/30/2004 8:38:31 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: BibChr
Now, what Mr. Bush should say (but won't) is to ask, "So let's review. I'd like Mr. Kerry to say what I have said so far, repeatedly, about his patriotism, and about these ads. And if he can't, I'd like him to explain why anyone should think he'd hear tonight what he's failed to hear for lo these many weeks."

Or he should say (but won't), "I support Mr. Kerry's right to free speech. Does he not support the same right to other veterans, if that speech is critical of him?"

Or he should say (but won't), "I have wondered again and again: what exactly did Mr. Kerry mean when he said, 'Bring it on'? Now all we hear is 'Call it off!'"

Or he should say (but won't), "Someone should tell Mr. Kerry that being President is a rough job. It inevitable involves being the target of a lot of harsh criticism. If he can't take the pressure at this point, when he is selling his strength of character to the nation, perhaps he should reconsider his own immediate career plans."

I don't think it is smart to merely invite your opponent to respond to an open ended question or one that is too loosely framed. That gives him the opportunity to merely subtly change the question slightly into one that will allow him to hit it out of the park, or at least dodge the real issue making it look like he answered when he really didn't. Then you have to be the whiner next time your turn comes up and say "but he didn't really answer the question as I posed it..." and thus it's punch is lost.

Here is what you do: You ask the question and give the answer for your opponent using one of his quotes or a paraphrase of his quote. For instance:

I would like to ask Mr. Kerry how he plans to repair the terrible damage he has done to the relations with many of our allies by denigrating their sacrifices repeatedly on the campaign trail? Just a few weeks ago his campaign called the Iraqi prime minister a "puppet" and questioned his credibility saying that he is "out of touch with the realities on the ground". Mr. Kerry, why would you call our most important ally in the Iraq war, an extremely courageous man who has on numerous occasions been targeted for death by Sadaam Hussein and is targeted for death every day by the Al Queda terrorists and Baathist extremists in Iraq, who lives in Bagdhad, a puppet who is out of touch? How do you plan to repair that damage? Are you going to start now by offering an apology to Mr. Allawi? I mean, is this scorn what all our 30 allies such as Britain, Poland, South Korea, Japan, Thailand, Australia, Georgia, the Netherlands, (Bush names as many as he can), can expect to be treated for the money, blood, risk, and terrible sacrifice they have been making? You have some apologies to make, Senator, before you can ever think about winning over allies to fight with us in this great cause for freedom.
This inserts his own recent quotes and completely frames it so that if Mr. Kerry does not apologize or deal with it directly he will look like he dodged it. You insert his quote(s) so that your question begs to be answered. You score in people's minds so that they too are on the edge of their seats wanting him to directly answer the question.

All of your questions are too easily changed by Kerry into blowback questions. Like, if I were Kerry responding to one about the veterans and free speech, I would just say something like:

"I think it is particularly pathetic that this president would even bring up veterans and free speech. First of all, I served in combat and he did not, no one disputes that. In fact, all we heard for the last two years was this man's party trying to deflect and hide from criticism about his policies under the blanket of 'we are at war and you should not criticize when we are at war.' Mr. Bush, we veterans fought so that people like you and many others could enjoy the free speech you abuse with these horrible character assasinations."
See what I mean? He didn't even have to deal with the question and was able to turn it back into an issue he has a long suit in. You have to really ask questions really tightly around your strengths and make the audience really anticipate how the other is going to deal with it directly.
47 posted on 09/30/2004 8:39:28 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: GallopingGhost

Kerry will attack, attack, attack.

My worry is not that the President will lose his temper. He won't.

My worry instead is that the President will be so repulsed by the ridiculous, vile distortions of Lurch that he will instead "check out" and lower his voice, mumble, and be seen on the defensive.


48 posted on 09/30/2004 8:39:59 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: BibChr; Dog Gone; ambrose

Kerry will not have gotten any sleep last night, and will be running on caffeine. Without sleep, Kerry tends to sound really bad - see his post-Republican convention response speech. He will also make at least one howler of a mistake thanks to his lack of sleep.

Bush will have gotten a normal night's sleep. This debate doesn't mean nearly as much to him as it does to Kerry. If he can just coast, he'll win the election. Kerry actually has to make up some enormous ground in public perception, and whether he does that rests almost entirely on his shoulders, not Bush's.

In a time-limited format, Bush has a huge advantage over Kerry because he is used to talking in sound bites, and his speechwriters are very good at providing them. Even in his speeches, Kerry has been long-winded but uninformative on a wide range of issues. I think it will be very difficult for him to resist this, especially if he's asked a question he didn't anticipate.

Bush will be able to trip Kerry easily on Iraq, no matter what Kerry's position. He's a hawk? "Then why did you vote against the $87 million? And why did you say the war was a mistake?" He's a dove? "Why did you vote to authorize force? Why did you say all those nasty things about Saddam having to go?"

Oops, I forgot. Why can't candidates ask each other questions? That seems like such a bizarre rule, and not in anyone's interest.

D


49 posted on 09/30/2004 8:40:34 AM PDT by daviddennis (;)
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To: Kryptonite

I predict that MSN's will call it a draw or say that Kerry ate President Bush's lunch spit him out and vomited him to his followers.I predict they will say President Bush does not look presidental, and I predict c bs will say the election is over and kerry won the election. They had a memo stating that fact.


50 posted on 09/30/2004 8:42:49 AM PDT by JFC (Go Jammies Go Jammies....)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Therefore, I predict that early on, he'll try to address those two problems with an attempt at self-depricating humor

I think he'll also try to make jokes about himself being an elitist stiff. But then he'll go on to point out George Bush is rich too, and Kerry is the only one who can understand poor people.

I also predict he'll make some joke about his wife being real or honest or something. Then he'll make an oh-so-subtle implication that Laura's some sort of "Stepford Wife".

51 posted on 09/30/2004 8:44:24 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: BibChr
I think there is an outside chance Kerry will make some sort of an apology to the Vietnam vets. It's risky, but it is the only way to put it behind him. I think he then puts them on the defensive for continuing to attack.
52 posted on 09/30/2004 8:47:48 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Tennessean4Bush
I would like to ask Mr. Kerry how he plans to repair the terrible damage he has done to the relations with many of our allies by denigrating their sacrifices repeatedly on the campaign trail? Just a few weeks ago his campaign called the Iraqi prime minister a "puppet" and questioned his credibility saying that he is "out of touch with the realities on the ground". Mr. Kerry, why would you call our most important ally in the Iraq war, an extremely courageous man who has on numerous occasions been targeted for death by Sadaam Hussein and is targeted for death every day by the Al Queda terrorists and Baathist extremists in Iraq, who lives in Bagdhad, a puppet who is out of touch? How do you plan to repair that damage? Are you going to start now by offering an apology to Mr. Allawi? I mean, is this scorn what all our 30 allies such as Britain, Poland, South Korea, Japan, Thailand, Australia, Georgia, the Netherlands, (Bush names as many as he can), can expect to be treated for the money, blood, risk, and terrible sacrifice they have been making? You have some apologies to make, Senator, before you can ever think about winning over allies to fight with us in this great cause for freedom.

Superb. I wish he'd do it.

Dan

53 posted on 09/30/2004 8:47:55 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

I predict he'll use the word "quagmire." He'll get angry at least once, and mention Viet Nam at least three times. The over/under on mentioning his peanut butter sandwiches is 5/3 against. I predict at least one time during tonight's debate Kerry will say something so goofy that Bush will look at him with the same expression that you have when you look at someone who's having a seizure.


54 posted on 09/30/2004 8:51:46 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (Kerry Campaign: An army of pompous phrases moving across the landscape in search of an idea)
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To: Servant of the 9
since he has to try to look Human

The problem is, this is extremely difficult for a Grey Alien to do.

Judge for yourself.

Compare to those pictures of Kerry on the Idaho slopes in March.

55 posted on 09/30/2004 8:52:41 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: BibChr
Kerry will fall flat. Many of the undecided will wonder what the heck he's talking about as he seems to ramble. In that way he's lucky there are time limits. His all over the place style won't help and he won't be pinned down on his Iraq position, leaving the undecided with more questions than answers about where he stands on the issues.

The media will portray Kerry as the hands down winner. I hope people are prepared for these bogus news stories tomorrow because that's what we'll see. I think many of the media pundits have already written their debate stories showing Kerry as the winner.

President Bush will do well and carry the day. He'll stay on message and won't be taken by surprise by any of Kerry's tricks.

56 posted on 09/30/2004 8:53:54 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: BibChr

I predict that with the rules agreed upon these "debates" will be less interesting than watching paint dry, will get historically low ratings for "debates", and in the end will probably have no measurable effect on the election.


57 posted on 09/30/2004 8:56:09 AM PDT by discostu (run faster run faster you fool you fool)
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Kerry's advisors will each tell him what they think is most important......with so many advisors he'll have 50 different items that are the most important.... after a short while, he will forget how his advisors stressed to him to keep his answers short and not come across as his typical pompous self. while bush will keep answers and thoughts short and simple, keeping on his basic strong points, kerry will begin to speak in a condescending tone because bush doesn't give 'nuanced' answers that could leave anyone from any party with the impression his answer fits their beliefs. kerry's camp will work extra hard to fix the orange glow, but the extra makeup will not sit well after an hour or so under the lights, and the auduence will think it is a michael jackson surgery gone wrong. after the michael jackson-esque make-up job to hide the orange glow, we can begin calling him wacko johno in a tribute to the skin color mystery of wacko jacko. kerry will assume anyone waiting until the debates to get interested in the election will not have much of a history of the campaigns to this point, so kerry will attempt to discredit the flip-flop label by answering every question with well, my view on this hasn't changed....i've been saying this since before iraq, 9/11, last year....
58 posted on 09/30/2004 9:02:52 AM PDT by jer2911tx (john kerry doesn't like rice, or as he calls it 'weapons of ass destruction')
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To: BibChr; All
Kerry will lie, and will be the modern personification of Christ's words in John 8:44:

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

See tagline.

59 posted on 09/30/2004 9:09:26 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("The chair recognizes John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, the Jr. and Sr. Terrorists from Massachusetts.")
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To: Kryptonite; All
Kerry will try to be calm and speak in a Reaganesque way so the audience will be charmed by him.

Yeah...RON Prescott Reagan, not Ronaldus Magnus.

60 posted on 09/30/2004 9:15:15 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("The chair recognizes John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, the Jr. and Sr. Terrorists from Massachusetts.")
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