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Fascinating stuff!
1 posted on 09/24/2004 8:17:44 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: petuniasevan; RadioAstronomer

Celestivs Pingvs.


2 posted on 09/24/2004 8:19:47 AM PDT by martin_fierro ('n'at.)
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3 posted on 09/24/2004 8:21:08 AM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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Indeed.

"Horatio, there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy"

4 posted on 09/24/2004 8:21:25 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Incredible.

That big array in South America is to go on-line soon, right?

That's supposed to outdo Hubble.


5 posted on 09/24/2004 8:23:14 AM PDT by JATO ( Dan Ranter: "We don't need no STINKIN' INTERNAL INVESTIGATION.")
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Alright this big bang theory I have problems with. Its just too simple for the complexity of the universe.


7 posted on 09/24/2004 8:27:11 AM PDT by 50 Cal (Next time you think nobody cares if you exist just don't pay the IRS!)
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According to the Graphic, NASA was created during the Big Bang. Interesting....


8 posted on 09/24/2004 8:35:26 AM PDT by rudypoot (Kerry sold out the US for political gain before now and he is doing it again.)
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There's an intriguing "upgrade Hubble" slant to the article that rings true to me -- sounds like some grant money is at stake for these Hubble users, and this Big Announcement is a way to keep it in play.

Interesting article, nevertheless.

9 posted on 09/24/2004 8:37:45 AM PDT by r9etb
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The picture shows faint galaxies whose stars were shining just a few hundred million years after the Big Bang.

Ok....

Now can anyone explain to me why this is a problem?

Stars are formed when gravity concentrates any large enough mass until the temperature for nuclear fusion has been reached. After that point, a nuclear reaction will always result, and a star is formed.

The only time limit as to how fast a large mass could be concentrated, would be the speed of light.

With a young Universe, everything was much loser together. I would expect stars to form rapidly.

12 posted on 09/24/2004 8:54:03 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

What God spoke into existence will never be fully grasped by Man. Physics and the universe (along with everyone/thing in it) are what God determined they would be.


13 posted on 09/24/2004 8:57:28 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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"Another exciting possibility is that physics was very different in the early Universe...."

Guess that shoots the hell out of their time-line.
How old is the universe? Depends on the rate that time was flowing back then.......

14 posted on 09/24/2004 8:57:45 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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"Another exciting possibility is that physics was very different in the early Universe; our understanding of the recipe stars obey when they form is flawed."

Read Genesis--In the Beginning GOD--

God is a just a weebit higher than the understanding of the wisest physics scientists.


17 posted on 09/24/2004 9:04:15 AM PDT by georgiegirl
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"Perhaps there was more action in terms of star formation even earlier in the history of the Universe - that's one possibility." "Another exciting possibility is that physics was very different in the early Universe; our understanding of the recipe stars obey when they form is flawed."

Perhaps physics was very different 7000 years ago.

24 posted on 09/24/2004 9:45:54 AM PDT by DannyTN
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ping


25 posted on 09/24/2004 9:47:59 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Sometimes these brain cells have a mind of their own.)
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Oh no!!!

We're living in side Michael Moores's stomach!

LET ME OUT!


28 posted on 09/24/2004 9:53:16 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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Weird graphic.
The "big bang" took place at a single point, did it not?
The graphic has the "big bang" way, way out there past the edge of the sphere. But it should obviously, by definition, be at the center of the sphere.


32 posted on 09/24/2004 10:01:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Here's a doozie for you...ponder this...

What if God used a big bang to create the universe!

:)

What if God spoke, and BANG! There was a universe!


44 posted on 09/24/2004 10:19:09 AM PDT by melbell
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
The Word that was with God spoke, and universe came into existance, Adam create as man (not child), stars millions of light years away already visible to his eye during the cool of the night. Yes, Creation is just that, a creation, instant, beautiful, without understanding. Science can only reveal the Creator, nothing more ... Glory be to God in the Highest...

Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. 12In a loud voice they sang: "Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!"
49 posted on 09/24/2004 10:26:34 AM PDT by Scythian
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" where are all the stars?"

The universe has to end somewhere?

Doesn't it?

They are looking at the end of the universe. Very simple.

57 posted on 09/24/2004 10:51:17 AM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

And for no apparent reason a large explosion took place where there was no time, space, light or explosive material.

This "Bang" created the material necessary for star formation, along with gravity, dark matter, and some substance that is, according to present day belief anti-gravity. Then the stars started to super nova and created the material of life, for no apparent reason except they were there.

This chaotic mass was melded into galaxies that are rushing at ever-greater speeds away from each other, except those that are moving toward each other and will collide.

Isaac Asimov put forth the theory that there must be millions of planets that have intelligent life. However, new theories are being put forward that we live on a Cinderella planet that is in the right orbit, at the right distance from a sun that is outside the highly radioactive part of the galaxy, with a moving radioactive crust, a protective magnetosphere, with liquid water and a moon that holds it all together which would require the same level of chance to reproduce itself in some other solar system.

Asimov however, in all of his sci-fi stories committed to the populating of the universe by immigration from earth.


58 posted on 09/24/2004 10:57:40 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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What if they found they had a picture of the back side of the Hubble?


60 posted on 09/24/2004 11:00:51 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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