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Hubble's deepest shot is a puzzle
BBC News ^ | 9/23/04 | Staff

Posted on 09/24/2004 8:17:42 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo

Scientists studying the deepest picture of the Universe, taken by the Hubble Space Telescope, have been left with a big poser: where are all the stars? The Ultra Deep Field is a view of one patch of sky built from 800 exposures.

The picture shows faint galaxies whose stars were shining just a few hundred million years after the Big Bang.

"Our results based on the Ultra Deep Field are very intriguing and quite a puzzle," says Dr Andrew Bunker, of Exeter University, UK, who led a team studying the new data."

"They're certainly not what I expected, nor what most of the theorists in astrophysics expected."

"There is not enough activity to explain the re-ionisation of the Universe," Dr Bunker told the BBC. "Perhaps there was more action in terms of star formation even earlier in the history of the Universe - that's one possibility.

"Another exciting possibility is that physics was very different in the early Universe; our understanding of the recipe stars obey when they form is flawed."


(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: galaxies; hubble; puzzle; space; ultradeepfield; universe
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To: Hunble
I had used Dr Bunkers' own words:
....."Another exciting possibility is that physics was very different in the early Universe; our understanding of the recipe stars obey when they form is flawed."

I am not parsing words here, merely commenting on HIS own words as HE was entertaining the possibility of no baseline standards for the laws of physics.
Sooo, what is your problem with my comment?

21 posted on 09/24/2004 9:40:28 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: rudypoot
"According to the Graphic, NASA was created during the Big Bang. Interesting...."

You read it from bottom up. First there was NASA, then the big bang.

22 posted on 09/24/2004 9:43:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
"Soviet Aleksandr Friedmann had actually came to the same conclusion a few years earlier."

Yes, the Soviets invented everything first (or so they claimed before they went extinct).

23 posted on 09/24/2004 9:44:34 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
"Perhaps there was more action in terms of star formation even earlier in the history of the Universe - that's one possibility." "Another exciting possibility is that physics was very different in the early Universe; our understanding of the recipe stars obey when they form is flawed."

Perhaps physics was very different 7000 years ago.

24 posted on 09/24/2004 9:45:54 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Axiom Nine

ping


25 posted on 09/24/2004 9:47:59 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Sometimes these brain cells have a mind of their own.)
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To: martin_fierro; RadioAstronomer

Given the current rate of expansion and the speed of light, what's the limit on the oldest light one could see in any particular direction?


26 posted on 09/24/2004 9:51:02 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Junior_G; All
The big bang theory is just creationism for athiests.

Piffle!

I haven't seen this much codswallop on a single thread in quite a while.

27 posted on 09/24/2004 9:52:02 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Oh no!!!

We're living in side Michael Moores's stomach!

LET ME OUT!


28 posted on 09/24/2004 9:53:16 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: aruanan; martin_fierro
Given the current rate of expansion and the speed of light, what's the limit on the oldest light one could see in any particular direction?

Hi!

I am in the lab at the moment, so I will have to answer this when I get home.

29 posted on 09/24/2004 9:57:49 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Hunble
If you are not willing to consider the flow of time as a standard, then was is your suggested alternative?

But the flow of time isn't really a standard; it varies from place-to-place and object-to-object depending on the local gravity, mass, and velocity.

Mind you, that by itself doesn't exactly get the universe down to 6000 years, but it still begs the question: When scientists say the universe is 13+ billion years old, which part of it are they referring to?

30 posted on 09/24/2004 9:58:17 AM PDT by Buggman (Your failure to be informed does not make me a kook.)
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To: Junior_G
"The big bang theory is just creationism for athiests."

Profound statement, JG!

31 posted on 09/24/2004 10:00:32 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Weird graphic.
The "big bang" took place at a single point, did it not?
The graphic has the "big bang" way, way out there past the edge of the sphere. But it should obviously, by definition, be at the center of the sphere.


32 posted on 09/24/2004 10:01:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Buggman
I asked you a rather simple question:

What do you consider as a valid standard for measurement?

Distance or time? Your choice.

However, if you have another standard that is better than distance or time, I am more than willing to consider it.

33 posted on 09/24/2004 10:01:50 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: Lancey Howard

True, but never mind.


34 posted on 09/24/2004 10:03:05 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: Lancey Howard
The graphic has the "big bang" way, way out there past the edge of the sphere. But it should obviously, by definition, be at the center of the sphere.

Actually, the "center" of the universe (point of origin of the big bang) is everywhere.

35 posted on 09/24/2004 10:04:27 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: nightdriver
Profound statement, JG!

Nope. It is pure drivel.

36 posted on 09/24/2004 10:05:50 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Buggman

The part of that graphic that is really interesting to me is on the outer rim where Pure Energy coaleses and condenses into Matter... fascinating... it kind of goes along with my theory that Matter (or particles) is simply Standing Wave Nodes (wave action) rippling upon an aetheric background...


37 posted on 09/24/2004 10:06:02 AM PDT by WashStateGirl
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To: RadioAstronomer

The problem with astrophysics and particle physics generally is that a very select group of people expound some very arcane hypothesis using paradigms only they can understand and then they can't prove them to even their own peer groups ,so they postulate a new theory and so on and so forth ad nausean. And there is no way a congressional appropiator or their staff can really make a proper evaluation when faced with a request for a larger particle accelerator or other huge megabuck project.


39 posted on 09/24/2004 10:08:30 AM PDT by Calusa (One Nation Gone Under.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

So the "big bang" not only exploded mass, but time and space as well?


40 posted on 09/24/2004 10:10:34 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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