Posted on 09/22/2004 3:39:09 PM PDT by Peach
Kerry said on 9/21 during a campaign speech that we now know there were no connections between Al Qaeda and Iraq.
He must not have read the Senate Intelligence Committee Report or the 9/11 Commission Report, both of which cited the many connections between Iraq and AQ.
A high ranking Iraqi fedayeen soldier attended at least one pre planning 9/11 meeting with AQ.
Saddam knew 9/11 was coming and where we were going to be hit.
Even the Clinton Justice Department was able to obtain an indictment against OBL which cited the terrorist's ties to Iraq.
A federal judge has granted two 9/11 families a multi-million dollar judgement - against Iraq.
During the 90's, the mainstream press wrote about the world's alarm at the growing relationship between Saddam and Osama bin Laden. Old Media thinks we can't look these things up.
Hundreds of articles and links in this thread.
Pesky little things facts and past history seem to be for Senator Kerry. They stand in the way of his having it both ways. Iraq was a haven for terrorists. It's a simple premise really. One backed up by a ton of evidence. The person that can't see that is no one that I would want in charge of national security in this post 9/11 world.
mark
The person you are referring to can be found in this link under the chapter labeled Al Qaeda:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1170056/posts
I added this thread to the John F. Kerry Timeline.
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If you were being honest, you would also note that the Weekly Standard - your source for the false statement made in your initial post - later retreated a bit and now take the rather Kerryesque position that they just don't know if the Shakir who was a Fedayeen officer and the Shakir with a similar - but not identical - name who attended the Kuala Lumpur meeting were the same man. Actually, most everyone now agrees that they are not the same person.
BUT, since you like to reference the 9-11 Commission for support, why don't we take a look at what they say about your claim?:
"Mihdhar was met at the Kuala Lumpur airport by Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, an Iraqi national. Reports that he was a lieutenant colonel in the Iraqi Fedayeen have turned out to be incorrect. They were based on a confusion of Shakir's identity with that of an Iraqi Fedayeen colonel with a similar name, who was later (in September 2001) in Iraq at the same time Shakir was in police custody in Qatar."
It is a shame I have to post stuff like this, because I know for a fact that you already knew it.
If you dispute the conclusion of the 9-11 Commission - that your statement that a Fedayeen officer attended the pre-9/11 meeting is untrue, perhaps you can post some evidence refuting their conclusion?
I guess it will come out during his trial.
Getting ready to threaten to break my arm again? As a person who has already been suspended several times, perhaps you'd like to try the third and fatal time?
I know you don't like to face facts that Iraq and AQ colluded for over a decade and that Saddam knew 9/11 was coming and where, but get over it.
It would appear that he hasn't read the commission report. It's not seared in his memory!
Ping
His memory and his lies have proven he doesn't have what it takes to be Commander in Chief. He shouldn't even be a Senator.
Holy crap, Peach-- Thanks a bunch!!
You are more than welcome.
Since Old Media is just so darned tired, and old, we have to do a little work for them. LOL
They must think we can't google this stuff up. Like the link to the articles they wrote during the 90's. They were very concerned about the growing relationship between OBL and Saddam then. Of course, now, they've just forgotten. It's that old timers disease. CRS. Hah!
I have liberal friends, they are very vicious and arrogant-- I am going to try and make a quick buck by betting them that Iraq and Al Queda aren't related ;).
LOL!
You could make a fortune betting the leftists on that one. There are even a few on FR who just refuse to believe it. Of course, those people are mostly DNC plants and trolls. Hah!
President Bush has already adopted many of the recommendations but the gigolo wouldn't know that. He's been AWOL.
And windsurfing!
I can't believe how little respect both the media and the Democrats have for the American people. While everyone expects politicians to exaggerate and mislead during an election season...the fact that both these entities (or, the same in some cases) are misrepresenting these facts on such an important issue is disgusting.
What's worse, is that they both know that these connections exist and yet they still continue to perpetuate this lie. These are life and death issues...and yet the media and Democrats are willing foresake these matters for political expediance.
From what I am watching develope, I am inclined to believe for the upcoming days leading before the election, Osama, the Iraqi terrorists, and John Kerry will be working hand in hand.
Call it what you like, unspoken agreement or not, "enemy of my enemy, is my friend." (of course, after the SBVfT pointing out sKerry's devious secret enemy meeting ways, unspoken it may not be.)
Actually, a lot WERE duplicates!
I cleaned up that file, here it is with all duplicates removed:
Many of these links are probably duplicates, but let me add my list to this one as
well:
We know Saddam worked with the PLO and other terrorists, he funded them. He
at LEAST knew that 9/11 was coming.
Less than two months before 9/11/01, the state-controlled Iraqi newspaper “Al-
Nasiriya” carried a column headlined, “American, an Obsession called Osama
Bin Ladin.” (July 21, 2001)
In the piece, Baath Party writer Naeem Abd Muhalhal predicted that bin Laden
would attack the US “with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the
way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.”
The same state-approved column also insisted that bin Laden “will strike America
on the arm that is already hurting,” and that the US “will curse the memory of
Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs” – an apparent reference to the
Sinatra classic, “New York, New York”.
(Link below)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1106657/posts
List of newspaper article in the 90's which mention the world's concern regarding
the growing relationship between OBL and Saddam: http://www.freerepublic.
com/focus/news/946809/posts?page=1
Son of Saddam coordinates OBL activities:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/951911/posts
The AQ connection (excellent):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/944617/posts?page=2
Western Nightmare:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,798270,00.html
Saddam's link to OBL:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/866105/posts
NYT: Iraq and AQ agree to cooperate:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985906/posts
Wolfowitz Says Saddam behind 9/11 Attacks:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/921398/posts
Growing Evidence of Saddam and Al Qaeda Link, The Weekly Standard, July
2003:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/946997/posts
Cheney lectures Russert on Iraq/911 Link, September 2003:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/982713/posts
No Question About It, National Review, September 2003
http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins091903.asp
Iraq: A Federal Judges Point of View
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/986293/posts
Mohammed's Account links Iraq to 9/11 and OKC:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/987075/posts
Free Republic Thread that mentions so me books Freepers might be interested in
on this topic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/977221/posts
The Proof that Saddam Worked with AQ, The Telegraph, April 2003:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F04%
2F27%2Fwalq27.xml
Saddam's AQ Connection, The Weekly Standard, September 2003
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/969032/posts
September 11 Victims Sue Iraq:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2237332.stm
Terrorist Behind 9/11 Attacks Trained by Saddam, The Telegraph, December
2003
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1007969/posts
James Woolsey Links Iraq and AQ, CNN Interview, March 2004, Also see Posts
#34 and #35
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1104121/posts
A Geocities Interesting Web Site with maps and connections:
http://www.geocities.com/republican_strategist/Iraq-Bin-Laden.html
Bin Laden indicted in federal court, read down to find information that Bin
Laden agreed to not attack Iraq and to work cooperatively with Iraq:
http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/98110402.htm
Case Closed, The Weekly Standard, November 03
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/378fmxyz
.asp
CBS - Lawsuit: Iraq involved in 9/11:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/05/september11/main520874.shtml
Exploring Iraq's Involvement in pre-9/11 Acts, The Indianapolis Star:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/746225/posts
The Iraq/AQ Connection: Richard Minister again
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/989201/posts
Militia defector claims Baghdad trained Al-Qaeda fighters in chemical warfare
Gwynne Roberts in Ankara
Sunday Times (London); Overseas news; News; 23
July 14, 2002, Sunday
Mohammed said he was recruited into Saddam's Fedayeen in 1997 and trained at
two secret facilities - at Salman Pak, southeast of Baghdad, and at the Unit 999
camp, northwest of the Iraqi capital. His first encounter with Bin Laden's fighters
occurred at Salman Pak when he was on an induction course to become a
Fedayeen officer, he said.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/743892/posts
The Clinton View of Iraq/AQ Ties, The Weekly Standard, December 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/527uwabl
.asp
Saddam Controlled the Camps (Iraq/AQ Ties): The London Observer, November
01
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/741676/posts
Saddam's Terror Ties that Critics Ignore, National Review, October 2003:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005579/posts
Tape Shows General Wesley Clark linking Iraq and AQ:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1056113/posts
Wall Street Journal on Iraq and AQ:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/987129/posts
Iraq and Iran contact OBL:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981055/posts
Saddam's Ambassador to Al Qaeda: (February 2004, Weekly Standard)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1083778/posts
Yes - it's NewsMax but loaded with interesting bullet points.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1097521/posts?page=1
Saddam's Fingerprints on NY Bombing (Wall Street Journal, June 1993)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1115387/posts
Colin Powell: Iraq and AQ Partners for Years (CNN, February 2003)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.alqaeda.links/
TCS
The Iraq -- Al Qaeda Connections
by Richard Miniter Publish 09/25/2003
. . . Those who try to whitewash Saddam's record don't dispute this evidence; they
just ignore it. So let's review the evidence, all of it on the public record for months
or years:
* Abdul Rahman Yasin was the only member of the al Qaeda cell that detonated
the 1993 World Trade Center bomb to remain at large in the Clinton years. He
fled to Iraq. U.S. forces recently discovered a cache of documents in Tikrit,
Saddam's hometown, that show that Iraq gave Mr. Yasin both a house and
monthly salary.
* Sudanese intelligence officials told me that their agents had observed meetings
between Iraqi intelligence agents and bin Laden starting in 1994, when bin Laden
lived in Khartoum.
* In 1999 the Guardian, a British newspaper, reported that Farouk Hijazi, a senior
officer in Iraq's mukhabarat, had journeyed deep into the icy mountains near
Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 1998 to meet with al Qaeda men. Mr. Hijazi
is "thought to have offered bin Laden asylum in Iraq," the Guardian reported.
* In October 2000, another Iraqi intelligence operative, Salah Suleiman, was
arrested near the Afghan border by Pakistani authorities, according to Jane's
Foreign Report, a respected international newsletter. Jane's reported that
Suleiman was shuttling between Iraqi intelligence and Ayman al Zawahiri, now al
Qaeda's No. 2 man.
* In 1998, Abbas al-Janabi, a longtime aide to Saddam's son Uday, defected to
the West. At the time, he repeatedly told reporters that there was a direct
connection between Iraq and al Qaeda.
*The Sunday Times found a Saddam loyalist in a Kurdish prison who claims to
have been Dr. Zawahiri's bodyguard during his 1992 visit with Saddam in
Baghdad. Dr. Zawahiri was a close associate of bin Laden at the time and was
present at the founding of al Qaeda in 1989.
* In 2001. . . That same year, Saudi Arabian border guards arrested two al Qaeda
members entering the kingdom from Iraq.
* Abu Musaab al-Zarqawi oversaw an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan,
Mr. Powell told the United Nations. His specialty was poisons. Wounded in
fighting with U.S. forces, he sought medical treatment in Baghdad in May 2002.
When Zarqawi recovered, he restarted a training camp in northern Iraq. Zarqawi's
Iraq cell was later tied to the October 2002 murder of Lawrence Foley, an official
of the U.S. Agency for International Development, in Amman, Jordan. The
captured assassin confessed that he received orders and funds from Zarqawi's cell
in Iraq, Mr. Powell said. His accomplice escaped to Iraq.
*Zarqawi met with military chief of al Qaeda, Mohammed Ibrahim Makwai (aka
Saif al-Adel) in Iran in February 2003, according to intelligence sources cited by
the Washington Post.
* Mohamed Mansour Shahab, a smuggler hired by Iraq to transport weapons to
bin Laden in Afghanistan, was arrested by anti-Hussein Kurdish forces in May,
2000. He later told his story to American intelligence and a reporter for the New
Yorker magazine.
* Documents found among the debris of the Iraqi Intelligence Center show that
Baghdad funded the Allied Democratic Forces, a Ugandan terror group led by an
Islamist cleric linked to bin Laden. According to a London's Daily Telegraph, the
organization offered to recruit "youth to train for the jihad" at a "headquarters for
international holy warrior network" to be established in Baghdad.
* Mullah Melan Krekar, ran a terror group (the Ansar al-Islam) linked to both bin
Laden and Saddam Hussein. Mr. Krekar admitted to a Kurdish newspaper that he
met bin Laden in Afghanistan and other senior al Qaeda officials. His
acknowledged meetings with bin Laden go back to 1988. When he organized
Ansar al Islam in 2001 to conduct suicide attacks on Americans, "three bin Laden
operatives showed up with a gift of $300,000 'to undertake jihad,'" Newsday
reported. Mr. Krekar is now in custody in the Netherlands. His group operated in
a portion of northern Iraq loyal to Saddam Hussein -- and attacked independent
Kurdish groups hostile to Saddam. A spokesman for the Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan told a United Press International correspondent that Mr. Krekar's group
was funded by "Saddam Hussein's regime in Baghdad."
* After October 2001, hundreds of al Qaeda fighters are believed to have holed
up in the Ansar al-Islam's strongholds inside northern Iraq. . . .
Mr. Miniter is a senior fellow at the Center for the New Europe and author of "
Losing bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror" (
Regnery) which is now on the New York Times' bestseller list.
http://www.techcentralstation.com/092503F.html
Oil for Food Scandal Ties Iraq and Al Qaeda (June 2003)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1125899/posts
Saddam and OBL Make a Pact (The New Yorker, February 2003):
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030210fa_fact
Al Qaeda's Poison Gas (Wall Street Journal, April 2004):
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005016
Richard Clarke used to believe in an Iraq/AQ connection:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2097901/
Freeper list of links between AQ and Iraq:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/850346/posts
Salman Pak (Aviation Weekly)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/865435/posts
Saddam/911 Link (FrontPage Magazine, Laurie Mylroie, May 2004):
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133317/posts
Bush says Zarqawi killed Berg, cites Saddam ties (Reuters, May 2004)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1136076/posts
Iraq's WMD have been found:
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/05/11/World/Investigative.
Reportsaddams.Wmd.Have.Been.Found-670120.shtml
Another freeper resource - list of links between OBL and Saddam:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/838309/posts
The Connections (May 2004, The Weekly Standard)
New Information:http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1144123/posts?page=11
Saddam's role in 9/11. (Freeper book, May 2004)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1144699/posts
NewsMax reports on WSJ article last week regarding the Iraq/OBL connections.
Post #33 is spot on why the administration has chosen not to capitalize on this
matter, and to their detriment.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1144012/posts?page=53
Entire link and Post #5 - Clinton mentioned how AQ was developing a
relationship with Iraq.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145787/posts
The House of Representatives read into the congressional record the ties that
Saddam had to Osama bin Laden (read down and open links in the record): June
2004
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/B?r108:@FIELD(FLD003+h)+@FIELD(
DDATE+20040601)
The Terrorist behind 9/11 was trained by Saddam (The Telegraph, 12/03)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1146356/posts
Saddam's connections to bin Laden/al-Qaeda/911
Excerpts from 60 articles with links provided to each of the original articles
“. . . prosecuting the informational battle in the War on Terrorism is not like
prosecuting a Mafia don, which typically requires rock-solid exhibits such as
wiretap intercepts, hidden-camera footage, DNA samples, and the testimony of
deep-cover “Mob rats.” On the contrary, it is important to emphasize, as strongly
as possible, that the United States need not—and in fact should not—hold itself to
courtroom standards of evidence except when appearing before domestic or
international judges. The administration merely has to demonstrate its claims and
refute those of its opponents, not convict Saddam Hussein before a jury of his
peers. . . . The appropriate standard of evidence . . . is not that of a trial, but
rather that of a hearing on whether a criminal suspect should be indicted. In this
respect, the “prosecution” definitely has a prima facie case that Hussein’s Iraq
indeed was a haven for terrorists until the moment U.S. troops invaded.” – Deroy
Murdock
Frontpagemag.com
The Saddam-9/11 Link Confirmed
By Laurie Mylroie
FrontPageMagazine.com | May 11, 2004
As Epstein now reports, Czech authorities have discovered that al-Ani’s
appointment calendar shows a scheduled meeting on April 8, 2001 with a "
Hamburg student."
That is exactly what the Czechs had been saying since shortly after 9/11: Atta, a
long-time student at Germany’s Hamburg-Harburg Technical University, met with
al-Ani on April 8, 2001. Indeed, when Atta earlier applied for a visa to visit the
Czech Republic, he identified himself as a “Hamburg student.” The discovery of
the notation in al-Ani’s appointment calendar about a meeting with a “Hamburg
student” provides critical corroboration of the Czech claim. America’s leading
lights, including those in government responsible for dealing with terrorism and
with Iraq, made a mammoth blunder. They failed to recognize that starting with
the first assault on New York’s World Trade Center, Iraq was working with
Islamic militants to attack the United States. This failure left the country
vulnerable on September 11, 2001.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13323
Newsmax.com
Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:10 p.m. EST
[Richard] Clarke: Iraq Teamed Up With bin Laden to Produce WMDs
. . . reporters aren't talking about the chapter of "Against All Enemies" that
describes how Osama bin Laden cooperated with Iraqi scientists to make
weapons of mass destruction - a development that, if true, would more than
justify President Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq.
In his book, [Richard] Clarke describes how the Clinton CIA determined in 1996
that Sudan's Shifa chemical plant, which was allegedly bankrolled by bin Laden,
was producing the chemical EMPTA.
"EMPTA is a compound that had been used as a prime ingredient in Iraqi nerve
gas," writes Clarke. "It has no other known use, nor had any other nation
employed EMPTA to our knowledge for any purpose."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/23/221155.shtml
Global Security.org
December 14, 2002 - 14:05
Salman Pak / Al Salman
Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training
facility at Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on
hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and
assassinations.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/salman_pak.htm
Photos Prove Connection Between Iraq and Al-Qaeda Terrorists
March 14, 2003
About 20 minutes before show time, we posted satellite imagery of Salman Pak -
home of the terrorist training center in Iraq we've been telling you about. I want
to thank Gary Napier and his whole staff from Space Imaging, Inc. for these
images from their IKONOS satellite.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/cold/
photos_prove_connection_between_iraq_and_al_qaedaterrorists.guest.html
Newsmax.com
Monday, Jan. 26, 2004 11:16 a.m. EST
Case for Iraq War Stronger Than Ever
U.S. satellite photos confirming the existence of a Boeing 707 fuselage that
Khodada and his partner say was used as a hijacking classroom. U.N. weapons
inspector Charles Duelfer, who was tapped on Friday to succeed David Kay,
corroborated their account.
A May 7, 2003, decision by Manhattan U.S. District Judge Harold Baer, . . . The
account of former CIA Director Woolsey, whose testimony was summarized by
Judge Baer thusly:
"Director Woolsey described the existence of a highly secure military facility in
Iraq where non-Iraqi fundamentalists [e.g., Egyptians and Saudis] are trained in
airplane hijacking and other forms of terrorism. Through satellite imagery and the
testimony of three Iraqi defectors, plaintiffs demonstrated the existence of this
facility, called Salman Pak, which has an airplane but no runway."
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/1/26/120224.shtml
FreeRepublic
Proof of Iraq/Bin Laden links
Weekend Austrailian ^ |
November 04, 2001 | From AFP
. . . A former Iraqi special forces officer has given new proof of links between
Islamic extremist Osama bin Laden and Iraq, Italy's La Repubblica newspaper
reported on Saturday . . . The newspaper said that the former officer told of a
training camp called Salman Pak in Iraq where members of bin Laden's terror
network had trained as pilots and on how to seize control of aircraft. Musawi said
that the former officer told him: "There were also women pilots who were trained
and I believe that the next time, if there is a next time, it could be a woman who
takes over an airplane."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/563841/posts
PBS
Nov. 6, 2001
PBS interview with Iraqi Lt. General:
This general served Saddam Hussein for decades. Along with another Iraqi
defector, Sabah Khodada (see below), the general tells of terrorists training in a
Boeing 707 resting next to railroad tracks on the edge of Salman Pak, an area
south of Baghdad. The existence of the plane has been confirmed by U.N.
inspectors.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/general.html
PBS
Oct. 14, 2001
PBS interview with Sabah Khodada:
A captain in the Iraqi army from 1982 to 1992, he worked at what he describes as
a highly secret terrorist training camp at Salman Pak
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/khodada.
html
PBS
October 18, 2001
PBS interview with Laurie Mylorie:
Well, Jim Fox, then head of the New York FBI himself believed that Iraq was
behind the Trade Center bombing. Why? Because he recognized that the Muslim
extremists were not capable of carrying out this plot on their own. There was
something major behind it. Two, there were Iraqis all around the fringe of the
plot. One of those Iraqis, Abdul Rachman Yasin, came from Baghdad before the
bombing, returned to Baghdad afterwards.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/mylroie.html
Al Qaeda was trained in Iraqi terror camps
Febuary 13, 2003
GWYNNE ROBERTS
Sunday Times of London
EVIDENCE is now emerging of a shadowy military alliance between Saddam
Hussein and Osama bin Laden which involves training al Qaeda fighters to use
chemical and biological weapons in sabotage operations in Europe and the United
States.
US claims of a direct link between bin Laden and Saddam have fallen on deaf
ears in Europe. But an investigation I conducted for PBS, the American state
broadcaster, reveals such a connection really exists. . . . The first hint that
something unusual was happening was picked up in 1997 by Jane's Intelligence
Review. It reported that Saudi and Palestinian dissidents were being trained in
Iraq at secret camps run by a Iraqi military intelligence group known as Unit 999.
. . . In 1994, Unit 999 also started training Saddam's Fedayeen, a brutal militia.
Abu Mohammed, who fled to Turkey three years ago, told me that in 1997 and
1998 Islamic extremists were being instructed to use poison gas and biological
weapons in behind-the-lines operations in the Middle East and the West. Unit 999
ran a course for a number of extremist Middle Eastern groups, including al
Qaeda. . . . Mohammed said a year later he attended another training course at
Salman Pak and Unit 999 where he encountered al Qaeda fighters.
"There was also training in the use of biological and chemical weapons there but
they were not Iraqis doing it - only foreigners. In the training areas there is a field
especially for weapons of mass destruction. Here, experts hold lectures and
conduct biological experiments, theoretical experiments, of course, on how to
place explosives, or how to pollute specific areas."
Mohammed added: "They had maps of the USA, Britain, Turkey, Iran and Saudi
Arabia."
Gwynne Roberts is an Iraq specialist and documentary film maker
http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/
messages_02/3819.html
FreeRepublic
MEMRI
October 17, 2003 No.592
Iraqi Daily: Saddam Ordered Training of Al-Qa'ida Members
The independent Iraqi weekly Al-Yawm Al-Aakher reveals details on the training
of Al-Qa'ida members operating under the orders of Saddam's Presidential Palace
two months before the September 11 attacks. The following are excerpts from the
article:
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP59203
Weekly Standard:
Intel Report Links Saddam, Usama
Saturday, November 15, 2003
by Stephen F. Hayes
Usama bin Laden (search) and Saddam Hussein (search) had an operational
relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and
weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, Al Qaeda
training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for Al Qaeda -
perhaps even for Mohamed Atta - according to a top secret U.S. government
memorandum obtained by The Weekly Standard.
The memo, dated October 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for
Policy Douglas J. Feith (search) to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the
chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103176,00.html
NYPOST.COM
Intelligence Report Links Saddam, Usama
Sunday, November 16, 2003
Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein (search) gave terror lord Usama bin Laden's thugs
financial and logistical support, offering Al Qaeda (search) money, training and
haven for more than a decade, it was reported yesterday.
Their deadly collaboration — which may have included the bombing of the USS
Cole (search) and the 9/11 attacks — is revealed in a 16-page memo to the
Senate Intelligence Committee (search) that cites reports from a variety of
domestic and foreign spy agencies compiled by multiple sources,
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103163,00.html
Terror-tied by memo
By Frank J. Gaffney Jr.
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published November 18, 2003
The unavoidable conclusion: Saddam Hussein's regime had been guilty as charged
-- tied for more than a decade to Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda network (
among other terrorist groups) for the purpose of waging attacks on their mutual
foe, the United States.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20031117-085555-9545r.htm
March 18, 2002
Protecting Saddam
By WILLIAM SAFIRE
The New York Times
WASHINGTON — Soviet propagandists used to touch up photographs to remove
the face of a Kremlin official who had fallen from favor, making him a "
nonperson." The same disinformation technique is now being used to wipe out
the fact of a meeting in Prague in April, 2001 — five months before the Sept. 11
attacks on the U.S. — between Mohamed Atta, the leading Qaeda hijacker, and
Ahmed al-Ani, the Iraqi consul in Prague, who was Saddam Hussein's intelligence
case officer there.
On solid evidence: The Czech intelligence agency, B.I.S., had the Iraqi embassy
spy in Prague under constant visual and wiretap surveillance . . . Three months
ago, after the absolve-Saddam campaign began to cast doubt on the report of the
Atta-al Ani meeting at the Prague airport, Interior Minister Stanislav Gross issued
a statement that "B.I.S. guarantees the information, so we stick by that
information." No backing away; on the contrary, strong reaffirmation.
On corroboration of the evidence that Atta flew 7,000 miles, from Virginia Beach
to Prague and back to Florida (his third trip to Prague in a year): The F.B.I. has
car-rental and other records that Atta left for Prague on April 8, 2001, and
returned on April 11. The B.I.S. report of the meeting that Saddam's case officer
had with the suicide hijacker fell precisely within those dates. Czech intelligence,
in identifying al-Ani's contact as Atta, had no knowledge of the F.B.I.'s evidence
that independently corroborates Atta's brief presence in Prague.
On C.I.A. assessment of the evidence: James Risen reported in The New York
Times last month that while not enough evidence ties Saddam specifically to Sept.
11, "senior American intelligence officials have concluded that the meeting
between Mr. Atta and the Iraqi officer, Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani, did
take place."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30713F73C5C0C7B8DDDAA
0894DA404482
UN envoy confirms terrorist meeting
Kmonicek says Al-Ani, Atta spoke in Prague
By Frank Griffiths
FOR THE POST
June 5, 2002
The Czech envoy to the UN has confirmed that an Iraqi agent met with suspected
Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta, in the latest rebuke to widespread U.S. media
reports dismissing the Prague encounter as a fabrication.
"The meeting took place," Hynek Kmonicek, a former deputy foreign minister,
told The Prague Post flatly in a New York City interview . . . The rendezvous
between the al-Qaida operative and the Iraqi intelligence agent was confirmed by
Prime Minister Milos Zeman . . . But Kmonicek, a government official with top
security clearance, was adamant that al-Ani and Atta met in April 2001, as Czech
officials have stated repeatedly.
. . . Kmonicek said the Czech government collected detailed evidence of the al-
Ani/Atta meeting, but declined to elaborate on the nature of the evidence. . . .
http://www.praguepost.com/P02/2002/20605/news1a.php
'Saddam controlled the camp’
The Iraqi connection
Sunday November 11, 2001
The Observer
As evidence linking Iraqi intelligence to the 11 September hijackers begins to
emerge, David Rose gathers testimony from former Baghdad agents and the CIA
to reveal the secrets of Saddam's terror training camp.
Zeinab and Khodad said the Salman Pak students practised their techniques in a
Boeing 707 fuselage parked in the foreigners' part of the camp. Yesterday their
story received important corroboration from Charles Duelfer, former vice
chairman of Unscom, the UN weapons inspection team. Duelfer said he visited
Salman Pak several times, landing by helicopter. He saw the 707, in exactly the
place described by the defectors.
. . . Abu Amin . . . he is one of Iraq's most highly decorated intelligence officers . .
. who then went on to a senior post in the unit known as 'M8' - the department
for 'special operations', such as sabotage, terrorism and murder. This is the man,
Colonel Muhammed Khalil Ibrahim al-Ani, whom Mohamed Atta flew halfway
across the world to meet in Prague last April, five months before piloting his
hijacked aircraft into the World Trade Centre.
Evidence is mounting that this meeting was not an isolated event. The Observer
has learnt that Atta's talks with al-Ani were only one of several apparent links
between Iraq, the 11 September hijackers and Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda
network. Senior US intelligence sources say the CIA has 'credible information'
that in the spring of this year, at least two other members of the hijacking team
also met known Iraqi intelligence agents outside the United States. They are
believed to be Atta's closest associates and co-leaders, Marwan al-Shehri and
Ziad Jarrah, the other two members of the 'German cell ' who lived with Atta in
Hamburg in the late 1990s.
In the strongest official statement to date alleging Iraqi involvement in the new
wave of anti-Western terrorism, on Friday night Milos Zeman, the Czech Prime
Minister, told reporters and Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, that the
Czech authorities believed Atta and al-Ani met expressly to discuss a bombing.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,591439,00.html
MSN
Prague Revisted
The evidence of an Iraq/al-Qaida connetion hasn’t gone away.
By Edward Jay Epstein
Updated Wednesday, Nov. 19, 2003
Atta's business appeared to be extremely time sensitive and specific to May 30.
When Atta learned in Hamburg that his Czech visa would not be ready until May
31, he nevertheless flew on May 30 to the Prague International Airport, where he
would not be allowed to go beyond the transit lounge. Although a large part of
this area is surveiled by cameras, he managed to spend all but a few minutes out
of their range. After some six hours, he then caught a flight back to Hamburg.
>From this visaless round trip, Czech intelligence inferred that Atta had a meeting
on May 30 that could not wait, even a day and that whoever arranged it was
probably familiar with the transit lounge's surveillance. Finally, the BIS
determined that the Prague connection was not limited to a single appointment
since Atta returned to Prague by bus on June 2 (now with visa BONN
200005260024), and, after a brief wait in the bus station, disappeared for nearly
20 hours before catching a flight to the United States.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2091354/
NRO
March 17, 2003 1:45 p.m.
Disarmament Not Good Enough
Getting rid of Saddam.
Deroy Murdock
A 9/11 CONNECTION?
According to Michael Ledeen's book, The War Against the Terror Masters,
September 11 ring leader Mohamed Atta flew from Virginia Beach to Prague on
April 7, 2001. The next day, he met with an Iraqi diplomat and suspected spy
named Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir Al-Ani in Prague. On April 9, Ledeen writes,
Atta flew home to Florida. "Less than two weeks later he opened an account at
the Sun Bank in Florida, and $100,000 was transferred into that account from an
unknown money-changer in the Persian Gulf." That April 22, Czech officials
expelled Al-Ani for "engaging in activities beyond his diplomatic duties," namely
surveilling Radio Free Europe's Prague headquarters.
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock031703.asp
Edward Jay Epstein
Ask Ed
Question:
What is the status of the meeting in Prague between September 11th hijacker
Mohamed Atta and Iraqi embassy intelligence officer, Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim
Samir Al-Ani?
Answer:
The basic information has not changed: Czech counter intelligence determined
that an Iraqi official under its surveillance met Atta in April 2001. The
interpretation of it, however, has undergone a number of vacillations. Here is the
chronology:
http://edwardjayepstein.com/2002question/prague.htm
Newsmax.com
Intelligence Bombshell: Saddam Financed Lead 9/11 Hijacker
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 10:44 a.m. EST
In a startling about-face for U.S. intelligence officials, a bombshell memo released
by the Senate Intelligence Committee late Friday draws a direct link between
Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks, citing evidence that Iraqi intelligence
bankrolled lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta in the months leading up to the
worst terrorist attack ever on U.S. soil.
The previously secret 16-page memo, prepared by the CIA and other U.S.
intelligence agencies, says Atta met as many as four times in Prague with Iraqi
intelligence agent Ahmed al Ani prior to the 9/11 attacks.
In a staggering revelation, which offers an overwhelming and compelling
justification for the U.S. attack on Iraq, the CIA memo says that, during one of
these meetings, al Ani "ordered the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] finance officer to
issue Atta funds from IIS financial holdings in the Prague office."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/11/15/111243.shtml
Newsmax.com
Sunday, Oct. 6, 2002; 10:31 a.m. EDT
Gephardt: 'Lots Of' Intelligence Ties Iraq to Al-Qaeda
House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., said Sunday that he'd seen "lots
of intelligence" that ties Saddam Hussein's regime in Baghdad to Osama bin
Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network.
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2002/10/6/102835
Does this link Saddam to 9/11?
(Filed: 14/12/2003)
London Telegraph
However, the tantalising detail provided in the intelligence document uncovered
by Iraq's interim government suggests that Atta's involvement with Iraqi
intelligence may well have been far deeper than has hitherto been acknowledged.
Written in the neat, precise hand of Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former
head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) and one of the few named in the US
government's pack of cards of most-wanted Iraqis not to have been apprehended,
the personal memo to Saddam is signed by Habbush in distinctive green ink.
Headed simply "Intelligence Items", and dated July 1, 2001, it is addressed: "To
the President of the Ba'ath Revolution Party and President of the Republic, may
God protect you."
The first paragraph states that "Mohammed Atta, an Egyptian national, came with
Abu Ammer (an Arabic nom-de-guerre - his real identity is unknown) and we
hosted him in Abu Nidal's house at al-Dora under our direct supervision.
"We arranged a work programme for him for three days with a team dedicated to
working with him . . . He displayed extraordinary effort and showed a firm
commitment to lead the team which will be responsible for attacking the targets
that we have agreed to destroy."
There is nothing in the document that provides any clue to the identity of the "
targets", although Iraqi officials say it is a coded reference to the September 11
attacks.
http://www.sundaytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%
2F12%2F14%2Fwterr114.xml&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=25102
Document links Saddam, bin Laden
Wednesday, 06/25/03
By GILBERT S. MERRITT
For The Tennessean
Through an unusual set of circumstances, I have been given documentary
evidence of the names and positions of the 600 closest people in Iraq to Saddam
Hussein, as well as his ongoing relationship with Osama bin Laden. . . .
So today he brought me the proof, and there is no doubt in my mind that he is
right.
The document shows that an Iraqi intelligence officer, Abid Al-Karim Muhamed
Aswod, assigned to the Iraq embassy in Pakistan, is ''responsible for the
coordination of activities with the Osama bin Laden group.''
The document shows that it was written over the signature of Uday Saddam
Hussein, the son of Saddam Hussein. The story of how the document came about
is as follows. . . .
http://www.tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/03/06/34908297.shtml
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86153,00.html
NewsMax.com
Monday, March 15, 2004 7:24 AM EST
Report: Saddam Harbored Terrorists Who Killed Americans
Saddam Hussein supplied financial support, training and shelter for an array of
deadly terrorist organizations right up until the onset of the Iraq war a year ago,
including such notorious groups as Hamas, Ansar al-Islam, the Palestinian
Liberation Front, the Abu Nidal Organization and the Arab Liberation Front,
according to a comprehensive report released by the Hudson Institute.
Titled "Saddam's Philanthropy of Terror," the report details the role played by
terrorists supported by Saddam's regime in an array of infamous attacks that have
killed hundreds of American citizens both inside and outside the U.S. before and
after the Sept. 11 attacks - including the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Lauro, the
1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and
the Palestinian Intifada . . .
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/14/141831.shtml
"Saddam's Philanthropy of Terror”
by Deroy Murdock
American Outlook – Fall 2003
http://www.hudson.org/files/publications/murdocksaddamarticle.pdf
FAS
The National Interest, Winter, 1995/96
THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMB:
Who is Ramzi Yousef? And Why It Matters
by Laurie Mylroie
Few Americans are aware of the true scale of the destructive ambition behind
that bomb, this despite the fact that two years later, the key figure responsible for
building it--a man who had entered the United Stares on an Iraqi passport under
the name of Ramzi Yousef--was involved in another stupendous bombing
conspiracy. In January 1995, Yousef and his associates plotted to blow up eleven
U.S. commercial aircraft in one spectacular day of terrorist rage. The bombs were
to be made of a liquid explosive designed to pass through airport metal detectors.
But while mixing his chemical brew in a Manila apartment, Yousef started a fire.
He was forced to flee, leaving behind a computer that contained the information
that led to his arrest a month later in Pakistan. Among the items found in his
possession was a letter threatening Filipino interests if a comrade held in custody
were not released. It claimed the "ability to make and use chemicals and
poisonous gas... for use against vital institutions and residential populations and
the sources of drinking water." [1] Quickly extradited, he is now in U.S. custody
awaiting trial this spring. . . .
It is important to know who Ramzi Yousef is and who his "friends" are, because
if he is not just a bomber-for-hire, or an Islamic militant loosely connected to
other Muslim fundamentalists, Yousef's "friends" could still prove very dangerous
to the United States. It is of considerable interest, therefore, that a very
persuasive case can be made that Ramzi Yousef is an Iraqi intelligence agent, and
that his bombing conspiracies were meant as Saddam Hussein's revenge for the
Gulf War. . . .
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/iraq/956-tni.htm
Insight on the news
"Deathbed" Confession Transcript -- World Exclusive
Posted April 19, 2002
The following interview with ELMINA ABDUL, widow of EDWIN ANGELES,
one of the cofounders of the ABU SAYYAF GROUP (ASG), and deep cover
agent for the Defense Intelligence Group (DIG) of the Department of National
Defense (DND), of the Republic of the Philippines, was taken on March 10,
2002, in the presence of CHRISTOPHER M. PUNO, Information Officer of the
Province of Basilan, at BASCOM Hospital, in the general ward. . . .
DZS: Did he ever talk to you about meetings with Arabs or Americans?
EA: Yes, once he had met with some Arabs and Americans in 1994, in Davao (
City), or General Santos (City).
DZS: Did he tell you who they were?
EA: Does the name Ramsey Yousef mean something to you Mr. Sicat?
DZS: Ahmad Hassim. Does that mean something to you?
EA: He had met with them. And an American who he called Terry or the Farmer,
and another American whom he did not name.
DZS: Was the American he named as Terry, Terry Nichols?
EA: He did not mention the surname. Only Terry.
DZS: Did he tell you why and how many times they had met?
EA: They met almost every day for one week. They met in an empty bodega (
warehouse). They talked about bombings. They mentioned bombing government
buildings in San Francisco, Saint Louis and in Oklahoma. The Americans wanted
instructions how to make and to explode bombs. He (Edwin) told me that
Janjalani was very interested in paying them much money to explode the
buildings. The money was coming from Yousef and the other Arab. . . .
DZS: Did he tell you when the bombs would explode; when they exploded?
EA: He told me that the Americans exploded one bomb in Oklahoma in 1995,
after he was arrested and after we first met.
DZS: Did he ever tell you who was supplying the money for the bombing of the
building, I mean who Yousef was working with or for?
EA: Mr. Sicat, you are the mediaman. Do you not know that Yousef was
representing Iraq and Saddam Hussein? Do you not know that? . . .
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=241231
Insight on the news
Insight Online World Exclusive
Posted April 19, 2002
By Kenneth R. Timmerman
Insight has learned that the widow of Philippine-government intelligence agent
Edwin Angeles has provided audiotaped testimony to an investigator working for
the American victims' families that directly ties Iraqi intelligence agents to Terry
Nichols, the man sentenced in 1998 to life in prison for his role in bombing the
Alfred P. Murrah Building seven years ago.
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/241237.html
The Terrorist Motel
The I-40 connection between Zacarias Moussaoui and Mohamed Atta
by Jim Crogan
LAWeekly
JULY 26 - AUGUST 1, 2002
The motel owner said that Moussaoui and a man who appeared to be Marwan al
-Shehhi -- who helped crash a jetliner into the south tower of the World Trade
Center -- were friendly and said a few things, but Atta was clearly the leader. "He
did most of the talking and seemed very serious," said the owner . . .
One reason for the FBI's apparent lack of interest might be this motel's alleged
connection to Timothy McVeigh and a group of Iraqis who worked in Oklahoma
City. According to the motel owner and other witnesses and investigators
interviewed by the Weekly, McVeigh and several of these Iraqis were motel
guests in the months preceding the 1995 bombing. Witnesses also claimed they
saw several of the Iraqis moving barrels of material around on the bed of a truck.
The motel owner said the material smelled of diesel fuel and he had to clean up a
spill. Diesel fuel was a key component of the truck bomb that blew up the Federal
Building. . . .
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/36/news-crogan.php
WorldNetDaily
Oklahoma City blast linked to bin Laden
Reporter says FBI refused to accept evidence of foreign terror connection
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 21, 2001
A former investigative reporter for the NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City last night
told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly she has gathered massive evidence of a
foreign conspiracy involving Saudi terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in the 1995
bombing of the federal building that killed 168 people.
Jayna Davis, former reporter for KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City, says she took her
evidence -- including hundreds of court records, 24 sworn witness statements and
reports from law enforcement, intelligence and terror experts -- to the FBI, which
refused even to accept the material.
She said a Middle East terrorist cell was in operation only blocks from the federal
building, and that an Iraqi national who formerly served in Saddam Hussein's
Republican Guard was in contact with McVeigh the day of the bombing. She said
this suspect arrived at the crime scene in a Ryder truck moments before the blast
and sped away in a brown Chevrolet pickup truck immediately after.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22122
Investigative Report
InsightMag.com
Iraqi Connection to Oklahoma Bombing
Posted March 25, 2002
By Kenneth R. Timmerman
. . . That was before an Oklahoma City lawyer named Mike Johnston, aided by
Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch, filed a federal lawsuit against Iraq on behalf of
victims of the Oklahoma City bombing. The lawsuit alleges that "the entire plot to
blow up the Murrah Building on April 19, 1995, in whole or in part, was
orchestrated, assisted technically and/ or financially and directly aided by agents
of the Republic of Iraq." . . .
The lawsuit, filed in U.S. district court in Washington on March 14, alleges that
convicted Oklahoma City conspirator Nichols met repeatedly in the Philippines
with World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Youssef, and that Youssef was an Iraqi
intelligence agent. If these allegations are confirmed in court, they constitute a
stunning indictment of Iraqi state complicity in murderous attacks on the United
States well before Sept. 11.
As if anticipating new developments on the terrorism front, CIA Director Tenet
told the Senate Armed Services Committee in unusually frank testimony on
March 19 that the United States now is actively examining potential Iraqi and
Iranian involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks. . . . Last October, U.S. News &
World Report revealed in its "Washington Whispers" column that McVeigh was
carrying Iraqi telephone numbers when he was arrested on the day of the
bombing. Sources tell INSIGHT that the phone numbers apparently were
contained in a sealed manila envelope that was turned over to the FBI unopened
by the Oklahoma state troopers who arrested McVeigh. The FBI logged in the
evidence as "manila envelope with content," but never disclosed what was inside.
Yet another potential Iraqi connection to the Oklahoma City bombing is being
promoted by a former Oklahoma City TV reporter named Jayna Davis, who
claims to have discovered an Iraqi terrorist network embedded within the Arab
immigrant community in the city. . . .
But new evidence uncovered by Johnston and his investigators suggests that
Youssef may have had direct ties to Iraqi intelligence all along. "We have sworn
witness statements and affidavits from court cases that predate the Oklahoma
City bombing that directly tie Ramzi Youssef to Dr. Ihsan Barbouti," Johnston
tells INSIGHT. "The witnesses say Barbouti introduced Ramzi Youssef as an
'explosives expert for the Iraqi National Oil Company,' and that Youssef was
working in Kuwait for Barbouti prior to the Iraqi invasion." Johnston says that he
believes Barbouti was married to a member of Saddam Hussein's al-Tikriti clan.
In tribal Iraq, such ties create bonds of absolute loyalty.
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=221859
OpinionJournal
The Iraq Connection
BY MICAH MORRISON
Thursday, September 5, 2002 12:01 a.m. EDT
. . . the long investigative work by Ms. Davis and Ms. Mylroie, coming to parallel
conclusions though working largely independently of each other, has gained some
prominent supporters. Former CIA Director James Woolsey, for example,
recently told the Journal that "when the full stories of these two incidents are
finally told, those who permitted the investigations to stop short will owe big
explanations to these two brave women. And the nation will owe them a debt of
gratitude."
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110002217
Highlights of complaint against Iraq for OK City bombing filed in US District
Court, Washington DC (filed in March 2002) Jury selection March 2004:
7. The parties hereto, based on their collective knowledge and on the knowledge
of other victims of the bombing of April 19, 1995, believe that the attack was not
as simple as has been portrayed by the United States government during the
criminal trials of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. Specifically, upon
information and belief, Plaintiffs assert that other individuals were involved in
preparation for and execution of the attack. Plaintiffs assert that the entire plot
was, in whole or in part, orchestrated, assisted technically and/or financially, and
directly aided by agents of The Republic of Iraq. Plaintiffs further assert that this
attack was an illegal continuation of the Persian Gulf War. Plaintiffs herein assert
that they or their loved ones are, in effect, civilian casualties of said Gulf War in
a manner contrary to the Geneva Convention and other applicable international
treaties. Plaintiffs assert that the involvement and complicity of Iraq can be
proven by both direct and circumstantial evidence in classic application, i.e.,
means, opportunity and motive, to wit:
10. On April 20, 1990, a Criminal Investigation Agent for the U.S. Customs
Service authored a “Report of Investigation” including information from a
confidential informant from Europe who revealed that Barbouti was a “conduit
for. . .funds to terrorist organizations.” The Customs informant also noted that
there was an individual working with Barbouti. . . . Said individual was identified
in a 1991 Florida federal court case, i.e., testimony given two years before the
first attack on the World Trade Center, as being “Ramzi Youssef.” Youssef was
an Iraqi government agent.
20. Three months later, when the Murrah Building was bombed, Abdul Hakim
Murad, in a prison cell in New York City awaiting trial for his part in the plot to
bomb five American 747 aircraft, admitted verbally on April 19, 1995 and in
writing that Ramzi Youssef’s “liberation army” was responsible for the Murrah
Building bombing! Murad’s conspiratorial admission of foreign involvement in
the Oklahoma City bombing was revealed by an FBI 302 Report that was
referenced in Timothy McVeigh’s March 1997 “Petition for Writ of Mandamus,”
Case No. 97-1109 (10th Cir.). The 302 Report was sealed. Said conspiratorial
admission, however, was never reported by the government to the bombing
victims.
23. Freedom of Information Act records obtained from Interpol’s National
Central Bureau on February 24, 2000 revealed that, long after Nichols and
McVeigh were in custody for the Murrah Building bombing, Interpol was still
trying to apprehend at least two other individuals, one a foreign national,
somewhere overseas, who were “implicated in the bomb attack against the
Oklahoma City federal building on April 19, 1995.” Also, the last (released)
document contained in Interpol’s file regarding the Oklahoma City bombing was
a New York Times article about the 1997 trial of Ramzi Youssef for the terrorist
plots prepared in the Philippines during 1994 and early 1995. See Exhibit 4,
attached hereto, which is incorporated herein by reference. Obviously, Interpol
connected Ramzi Youssef to the Oklahoma City bombing. Neither of these things
was ever revealed by the United States government to Plaintiffs, i.e., bombing
victims, herein.
24. Plaintiffs further assert that Timothy McVeigh had additional Iraqi assistance
in preparing the Murrah Building attack during the days leading up to April 19,
1995. This included, specifically, the assistance of Hussain Hashem Alhussaini, a
former soldier in the Iraqi army during the Gulf War who had been allowed entry
into the United States in 1994 through Boston from an interment camp in Saudi
Arabia. Also, see Exhibit 5, attached hereto, which is a copy of an April 19, 1995
government memorandum documenting a report to the Washington Metropolitan
Field Office of the FBI, made by a former high-ranking CIA official, and is
incorporated herein by reference. Said CIA official (who had previously worked
on the Pan Am 103 case) was passing on urgent information from a Saudi
Arabian counterterrorism official in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. The intelligence
information was that “there was a ‘squad’ of people currently in the United
States, very possibly Iraqis, who have been tasked with carrying out terrorist
attacks against the United States.” One of the three targets specifically mentioned
in the report was Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. The existence of this memo was
never communicated by the U.S. government to Plaintiffs herein, i.e., victims.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/cases/86/complaint.html
Insight on the news
The Link Between Iraq and Al-Qaeda
Posted Sept. 29, 2003
By Scott L. Wheeler
Senior investigators and analysts in the U.S. government have concluded that Iraq
acted as a state sponsor of terrorism against Americans and logistically supported
the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States - confirming news reports that
until now have emerged only in bits and pieces. . . . That assistance, confirmed
independently, came in a variety of ways, including financial support spun out
through a complex web of financial institutions in Switzerland, Liechtenstein,
Italy and elsewhere. Long suspected of having terrorist ties to al-Qaeda, they now
have been linked to Iraq as well. . . . Bush officially cited al-Taqwa as part of al
-Qaeda's money-laundering activities. . . . It is in al-Taqwa and Nada
Management that the government investigator says he found the links to Saddam
and Iraq.
Leitner says. The O'Neill lawsuit . . . against Iraq points to numerous
organizations and financial institutions the plaintiffs say were "fronts" for Islamic
terrorism activities and claims financial linkages to Iraq, Iraqi intelligence and
Saddam. . . . Also listed as a defendant in the lawsuit is the Arab TV network al-
Jazeera. "Defendant Mohammed Jaseem al-Ali and two other employees of al-
Jazeera are identified in documents captured in the April 2003 U.S. military
action in Iraq as having received substantial funding from the Iraqi regime in
exchange for acting as liaisons between Iraq and al-Qaeda. One document reveals
that al-Jazeera passed letters from Osama bin Laden to Saddam Hussein," the
complaint alleges. . . .
Scott L. Wheeler is a contributing writer for Insight magazine.
email the author
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/477622
the weekly Standard
Saddam's Ambassador to al Qaeda
From the March 1, 2004 issue: An Iraqi prisoner details Saddam's links to Osama
bin Laden's terror network.
by Jonathan Schanzer
03/01/2004, Volume 009, Issue 24
A RECENTLY INTERCEPTED MESSAGE from Iraq-based terrorist Abu
Musab al Zarqawi asking the al Qaeda leadership for reinforcements reignited the
debate over al Qaeda ties with Saddam Hussein's fallen Baath regime. . . . In
addition to weapons, al-Shamari said, the Mukhabarat also helped finance Ansar
al Islam. "On one occasion we gave them ten million Swiss dinars [$700,000]," al
-Shamari said, referring to the pre-1990 Iraqi currency. On other occasions, the
Mukhabarat provided more than that. The assistance, he added, was furnished "
every month or two months." . . . “Abu Wael was "the actual decision-maker" for
Ansar al Islam and "an employee of the Mukhabarat." . . . The prisoner told me
that he had worked for Abu Wael, who was the leader of a special intelligence
directorate in the Mukhabarat. That directorate provided assistance to Ansar al
Islam at the behest of Saddam Hussein. . . . Al-Shamari also told me that the links
between Saddam's regime and the al Qaeda network went beyond Ansar al Islam.
He explained in considerable detail that Saddam actually ordered Abu Wael to
organize foreign fighters from outside Iraq to join Ansar. Al-Shamari estimated
that some 150 foreign fighters were imported from al Qaeda clusters in Jordan,
Turkey, Syria, Yemen, Egypt, and Lebanon to fight with Ansar al Islam's Kurdish
fighters. . . . a man known simply as Qods. In June 2003, just before he was
arrested and put in the jail where I met him, Qods said that . . . It was only then, .
. . that he learned of the link between the Baathists and al Qaeda. . . .
Jonathan Schanzer is a terrorism analyst for the Washington Institute for Near
East Policy and author of the forthcoming book "Al-Qaeda's Armies: Middle East
Affiliates and the Next Generation of Terror."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/768rwsbj
.asp?pg=1
An Essay:
Iraq’s State Sponsorship of Osama bin-Laden and the
al-Qaeda Terror Network
The Washington Dispatch
Essay by Chris Farrell
Jun 30, 2002
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Arafat-Saddam-Bin Laden Links Surface
DEBKAfile Expose
September 24, 2002, 4:37 PM (GMT+02:00)
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=155
For Immediate Release
Aug 13, 2002
SEPTEMBER 11 LAWSUIT AGAINST IRAQ MOVES FORWARD
State Department Confirms Saddam Hussein’s Government Served With Lawsuit
Alleging September 11 Involvement
(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and
prosecutes government corruption, today announced that the governments of Iraq
and Afghanistan have been served with a civil lawsuit. . . . The lawsuit alleges a
conspiracy among Iraq, bin Laden, the Taliban/Afghani government in the
September 11 terrorist attacks on America. The lawsuit alleges that Iraq provided
“material support and assistance” to bin Laden’s network to carry out the
September 11 attacks and that Iraqi intelligence met several times with September
11 terrorists, in addition to providing training for bin Laden’s terrorist network in
Iraq itself. - Judicial Watch, Inc.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/2323.shtml
9/11 SUIT TIES SADDAM TO 10 YRS. OF AID FOR OSAMA
New York Post; New York; Sep 9, 2002; JOHN LEHMANN;
Words in Document: 265
Abstract:
The civil suit against Iraq, filed last week on behalf of 1,400 victims of the Sept.
11 attacks and their families, relies on confidential briefings by ex-CIA officers,
interviews with Iraqi defectors, al Qaeda members' testimonies at the African
embassy bombing trial and Iraqi and American press reports, according to
Manhattan law firm Kreindler and Kreindler. http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/nypost
/164848461.html?did=164848461&FMT=ABS&FMTS=FT&date=Sep+9,+
2002&desc=9%2f11+SUIT+TIES+SADDAM+TO+10+YRS.+OF+AID+FOR+
OSAMA
(2002/09/05):
"Lawsuit: Iraq Knew of 9/11 Attacks"
By Larry Neumeister
Associated Press Writer
Wednesday, September 4, 2002; 7:16 PM
NEW YORK -- A lawsuit filed Wednesday claims Iraq knew Osama bin Laden
was targeting the Pentagon and New York City prior to Sept. 11 and that it
sponsored terrorists for a decade to avenge its defeat in the Gulf War. . . . The
lawsuit alleges that Yousef was an Iraqi intelligence agent who traveled to the
United States using travel documents forged in Kuwait during the Iraqi
occupation of that country in 1991. Yousef was eventually convicted in the trade
center bombing and a plot to blow up a dozen airliners over the Far East in 1995.
He is serving a life prison term.
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/9-06-02/discussion.cgi.39.shtml
Friday, March 7, 2003 1:57 p.m. EST
NewsMax,com
CIA's Woolsey Tells Court: Iraq Involved in 9/11
Former CIA Director James Woolsey offered bombshell testimony this week in a
lawsuit brought by the families of World Trade Center victims that implicates
Saddam Hussein in the 9/11 attacks. . . . The one-time Clinton administration
intelligence chief described what he said was a conspiracy between al-Qaeda and
Baghdad.
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/3/7/140812
Sept. 11 Families Win $104-Million
NEW YORK-May 7, 2003 — A federal judge Wednesday awarded nearly $104
million in damages to the families of at least two victims of the Sept. 11 terror
attacks, saying they had shown that Iraq provided material support to Osama bin
Laden and al-Qaeda.
Judge Harold Baer outlined the damages against bin Laden, the Taliban and
Saddam Hussein and his Iraqi government in a written decision in U.S. District
Court in Manhattan. Baer said he had concluded that lawyers for the two victims
"have shown, albeit barely ... that Iraq provided material support to bin Laden
and al-Qaeda." - ABC Action News
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/5-09-03/discussion.cgi.53.html
NewsMax,com
Friday, May 9, 2003 7:22 a.m. EDT
9/11 Bombshell: Judge Rules Saddam Trained Hijackers
In a bombshell finding virtually ignored by the American media, a U.S. district
court judge in Manhattan ruled Wednesday that Salman Pak, Saddam Hussein's
airplane hijacking school located on the outskirts of Baghdad, played a material
role in the devastating Sept. 11 attacks on America. . . . according to courtroom
testimony by three of the camp's instructors, the facility was a virtual hijacking
classroom where al-Qaeda recruits practiced overcoming U.S. flight crews using
only small knives - a terrorist technique never employed before 9/11.
At least one veteran of Salman Pak, Sabah Khodad, has maintained that the 9/11
hijackers were actually trained by Saddam's henchman. He told PBS in October
2001 that the World Trade Center attack "was done by graduates of Salman Pak
."
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/5/9/72820
The above lawsuit was filed in Manhattan, the following lawsuit is unrelated and
was filed in Washington D.C.
NewsMax,com
Wednesday Feb. 5, 2003; 1:47 p.m. EST
Lawsuit Alleges Saddam Trained 9/11 Hijackers
A lawsuit set to be filed in Washington, D.C. will allege that . . . "Saddam Hussein
helped to plan and pay for the September 11 terror attacks on New York and
Washington, according to U.S. court documents obtained by the Sunday
Express," the paper claimed. . . . Five key witnesses - three Iraqi defectors and
two former U.N. weapons inspectors - have "provided chilling details," the
Express said . . .
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/2/5/135346
Spain links suspect in 9/11 plot to Baghdad
David Rose
Sunday March 16, 2003
The Observer
An alleged terrorist accused of helping the 11 September conspirators was invited
to a party by the Iraqi ambassador to Spain under his al-Qaeda nom de guerre,
according to documents seized by Spanish investigators.
Yusuf Galan, who was photographed being trained at a camp run by Osama bin
Laden, is now in jail, awaiting trial in Madrid. The indictment against him, drawn
up by investigating judge Baltasar Garzon, claims he was 'directly involved with
the preparation and carrying out of the attacks ... by the suicide pilots on 11
September'.
Evidence of Galan's links with Iraqi government officials came to light only
recently, as investigators pored through more than 40,000 pages of documents
seized in raids at the homes of Galan and seven alleged co-conspirators. The
Spanish authorities have supplied copies to lawyers in America, and this week the
documents will form part of a dossier to be filed in a federal court in Washington,
claiming damages of approximately $100 billion on behalf of more than 2,500 11
September victims. - The Observer
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,915142,00.html
WorldNetDaily
Posted: December 11, 2002
Iraq-al-Qaida links go back decade
By David Rose
CIA reports of Iraqi-al-Qaida cooperation number nearly 100 and extend back to
1992, according to a reporter for Vanity Fair whose sources include senior
Pentagon officials.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29949
Contacts among Ansar al-Islam, Al Qaeda, and aides to the Iraqi President
By Scott Peterson
Staff Writer of the Christian Science Monitor
2 April 2002
While Ansar is gaining strength in numbers, new information is emerging that ties
the organization to both Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network and to Iraqi leader
Saddam Hussein. The Al Qaeda contacts allegedly stretch back to 1989, and
include regular recruiting visits by bin Laden cadres to Kurdish refugee camps in
Iran and to northern Iraq, as well as a journey by senior Ansar leaders to meet Al
Qaeda chiefs in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in the summer of 2000.
A 20-year veteran of Iraqi intelligence alleges the Iraqi government secretly
provided cash and training to Ansar . . .
http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/press/0418irqtr.htm
Asia Times
Bin Laden uses Iraq to plot new attacks
By Syed Saleem Shahzad
February 23, 2003
Similarly, bin Laden and the al-Qaeda have maintained close relations with Iraqi
intelligence since the early 1990s. In 1994, Iraqi intelligence chief Farooq al-
Hijazi visited the Sudanese capital of Khartoum, where bin Laden had established
a headquarters for al-Qaeda in 1991 to run businesses to provide it with income
and support. Farooq and bin Laden met. Also present was Dr Hasan Turabi, the
head of the Muslim Brotherhood organization of Sudan. (Bin Laden married one
of Turabi's nieces while he was in Sudan.)
This meeting was to prove helpful to both bin Laden and Iraqi leader Saddam
Hussein.
http://atimes.com/c-asia/DB23Ag02.html
Philippines' expulsion of Iraqi diplomat bolsters U.S. case that Iraq engaged in
terrorism
Thu Feb 13, 2003, 8:14 AM ET
By HRVOJE HRANJSKI, Associated Press Writer
MANILA, Philippines - The expulsion from the Philippines of an Iraqi diplomat
allegedly linked to the Muslim extremist Abu Sayyaf group has bolstered the U.S.
case that Iraq is sponsoring international terrorism, Philippine officials said
Thursday.
The Abu Sayyaf has been loosely linked to Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s
al-Qaeda network. The Philippines has given Iraqi Consul Husham Husain until
Friday to leave the country. . . . Shortly after the outbreak of the Gulf War in
January 1991, Manila expelled then-Iraqi Charge d'Affaires Muwafak al-Ani after
an Iraqi man was killed and another wounded in the premature detonation of a
bomb believed intended for the U.S. cultural center in suburban Makati. The
planned bombing appeared to be an initial attempt by Iraq to carry out a threat of
global terrorism in response to the U.S.-led assault to force its military out of
Kuwait.
http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?docid=1P1:71751371&dtype=0~0
&dinst=&author=&title=Expelled%20Iraqi%20Envoy%20Leaves%20
Philippines&date=02/14/2003&refid=ency_botnm
Saddam link to terror group
By Philip Smucker in Baghdad and Adrian Blomfield in Nairobi
(Filed: 17/04/2003)
London Telegraph
Saddam Hussein's regime was linked to an African Islamist terrorist group,
according to intelligence papers seen by The Telegraph. The documents provide
the first hard evidence of ties between Iraq and religious terrorism. . . The papers
show how Iraq's charge d'affaires in Nairobi, Fallah Hassan Al Rubdie, was in
discussion with the Allied Democratic Forces, a Ugandan guerrilla group with ties
to other anti-western Islamist organisations. . . In a letter to the head of the Iraqi
spy agency, a senior ADF operative outlined his group's efforts to set up an "
international mujahideen team". . . Nassir offered to "vet, recruit and send youth
to train for the jihad" at a centre in Baghdad, which he described as a "
headquarters for international holy warrior network". . .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/17/wsad17.xml
'We'll pay all expenses to gain the knowledge from bin Laden and convey a
message back'
(Filed: 27/04/2003)
London Telegraph
Document 1, dated February 19, 1998
Marked "Top Secret and Urgent" in the margin and signed by "MDA", thought to
be the codename for the director of one of the intelligence sections within the
Mukhabarat.
"The envoy is a trusted confidant and known by them. According to the above
mediation we request official permission to call Khartoum station to facilitate the
travel arrangements for the above-mentioned person to Iraq. And that our body
carry all the travel and hotel expenses inside Iraq to gain the knowledge of the
message from bin Laden and to convey to his envoy an oral message from us to
bin Laden, the Saudi opposition leader, about the future of our relationship with
him, and to achieve a direct meeting with him." . . .
Document 2, dated February 23, 1998
Addressed to codename "M4/7", marked "Information M4 D1/3/4" and given the
number 375 by the Mukhabarat bureaucracy.
"The permission of Mr Deputy Director of Intelligence has been gained on 21
February for this operation, to secure a reservation for one of the intelligence
services guest's for one week in one of the first class hotels [the Al Mansour
Melia hotel in Baghdad]".
Signed by "M.D. 1/3", next to which is written February 22.
In the margin it is written that this has been done in co-ordination with the chief
of the Saudi section and that they write to extend the period of host for one more
week.
A note at the bottom of the page says "The envoy H arrived 5th March". Another
note mentions "room 414" next to the name, Mohammed F. Mohammed Ahmed.
Document 3, dated March 24, 1998
Written by hand and labelled number 736 and marked "Secret" in the margin.
This paper has been given the code number M 4/7/2 and is addressed to
codename "2/D1/3".
"Your information numbered D1/3/4/375 dated 23rd February 1998, we enclose
herewith the bill to host a guest in Mansour Melia Hotel. Please let it be known
and get the official permission to spend the amount and return the permission
back with our regards. Include the name of bills of the hotel." Signed by another
official with the codename M.M. 4/7
At the foot of this document there is another note, dated April 13, that says that
after 21 days:
"We have been informed by Saudi section chief [of the Iraqi Intelligence Service,
the Mukhabarat] that we get permission to send the amount and the permission is
sent to directorate accountant."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/27/walq127.
xml
Toronto Star
Apr. 27, 2003. 09:58 AM
Clumsy efforts hid bin Laden's name
MITCH POTTER
MIDDLE EAST BUREAU
As the mystery slowly unravelled, Amir's eyes grew wider. Finally, he leapt from
the bed in stunned disbelief. "What? What have you got," I asked.
"It says bin Laden. It says bin Laden," he bellowed, jumping in the air.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/
Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1051125568653&call_pageid=968332188492
&col=968793972154
Toronto Star
Star finds bin Laden-Iraq links
Three pages of documents point to the arrival of a messenger
MITCH POTTER
TORONTO STAR
Apr. 28, 2003. 01:34 PM
Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda organization and Saddam Hussein's regime shared
direct contact as early as 1998, according to top-secret Iraqi intelligence
documents obtained by the Star. . . .
The handwritten file, three pages in all, relates to the arrival of a secret envoy
sent by bin Laden to Iraq in March, 1998, apparently to establish a clandestine
relationship with the Iraqi regime.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/
Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1051125568646&call_pageid=1045739058633
FreeRepublic
Target: Safe Harbor – Bush’s case against Iraq is iron-clad post – 9/11
National Review Online ^ | September 6, 2002 | Larry Kudlow
The New Yorker's Jeffrey Goldberg reported brilliantly on Ansar al-Islam last
winter. This is a group of several hundred terrorists who were initially trained and
organized by bin Laden troops and co-financed by al Qaeda and Saddam
Hussein's secret police. . . .
And Ledeen points out that these groups are being aided and abetted by the "
terror masters" — namely Iran, Iraq, and Syria who foster, arm, and train these
terrorists, and Saudi Arabia, the financier. These are the safe-harboring states
who shield enemies of the United States.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/745761/posts
Jane’s Information Group
Who did it?
19 September 2001
. . . The Iraqis, who for several years paid smaller groups to do their dirty work,
were quick to discover the advantages of Al-Qaeda. . . .
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr010919_1_n.
shtml
Was bin Laden working with Iraq?
Boston Globe ^ | 9/25/01 | Laurie Mylroie
. . . Above all, a critical question has not been addressed: Was bin Laden alone
responsible for the carnage that occurred on Sept. 11, or was he working with an
enemy state, namely Iraq?As Rafael Eitan, former head of Israel's Mossad, stated,
''I have no doubt whatsoever that the
mastermind of this atrocity is none other than the Iraqi dictator.'' Former CIA
director Jim Woolsey has also fingered Iraq, and senior officials in the Pentagon
agree. . . .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/531970/posts
FreeRepublic
Iraq Tempts Bin Laden To Attack West
The Herald (UK)
By Ian Bruce
December 28, 1999
The world's most wanted man, Osama bin Laden, has been offered sanctuary in
Iraq if his worldwide terrorist network succeeds in carrying out a campaign of
high-profile attacks on the West . . .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/527008/posts
FreeRepublic
Seven Years Later: Was TWA Flight 800 a First Strike By Jihad Terrorists?
Capitalism Magazine ^ | July 17, 2003 | Scott Holleran
Skeptics questioned the investigation, including former Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff Thomas Moorer, a retired admiral, who added his name to those
who believe a missile destroyed the plane.
Moorer -- joined by Vernon Grose, a former member of the National
Transportation Safety Board -- expressed grave doubts about the investigation.
"All the evidence," Moorer said, "would point to a missile."
At the time of the crash, 270 eyewitnesses reported seeing a streak of light.
Nearly 100 eyewitnesses said that the streak of light *originated* from the earth's
surface, contrary to the CIA's animated simulation.
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/947966/posts
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