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LA TIMES: No Disputing It: Blogs Are Major Players (FreeRepublic.Com & Buckhead Mentioned!)
The LA Times ^ | Sept. 12, 2004 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 09/12/2004 2:43:11 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

These days, CBS News anchor Dan Rather and his colleagues at the network's magazine program "60 Minutes II" are enduring an unusual wave of second-guessing by some of the public and fellow journalists.

For that, they can thank "Buckhead."

It was a late-night blog posting by this mystery Netizen that first questioned the validity of documents Rather cited Wednesday as proof that George W. Bush did not fulfill his National Guard duty more than 30 years ago.

Buckhead refuses to further identify himself, other than dropping hints that he is a male who lives on the East Coast — preferring to proclaim that the scramble to verify the contentions in his posting marks an extraordinary achievement for a medium that has operated more as an underground world of ideological venting than a source of legitimate news.

But Buckhead is vehement about one thing: He acted alone when he posted, to the conservative website FreeRepublic.com, what was widely believed to be the first allegation that the CBS report relied on documents that could have been forged.

"Absolutely, positively, on my own, sitting at my computer in my bedroom just before midnight — but not in my pajamas," he wrote in an e-mail exchange with The Times. "But once I posted the comment to Free Republic I was no longer working alone, and that is the real point of the story about the story about the story."

That story began Wednesday, 19 minutes after the "60 Minutes II" broadcast began, when another FreeRepublic poster, TankerKC, noted that the documents were "not in the style that we used when I came into the USAF…. Can we get a copy of those memos?"

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; forgery; killian; mediawingofthednc; msm; rathergate
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Awesome! Thanks so much for this site. Worked great.


381 posted on 09/12/2004 9:27:44 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: NYCVirago

http://www.flounder.com/bush.htm


382 posted on 09/12/2004 9:30:01 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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383 posted on 09/12/2004 9:57:07 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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384 posted on 09/12/2004 9:59:24 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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385 posted on 09/12/2004 10:00:24 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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386 posted on 09/12/2004 10:01:13 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: CaptRon

Did that really happen? The LA times tried to sue the Freepers?

Wow.......when did that happen? Can you post a link, I'd love to read it.


387 posted on 09/12/2004 10:05:47 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: RoseofTexas

Well said, Rose! You said it well. I'm a relative newbie, but I come here to read.....and find out the latest news.

What a great group of people. Congrats to Buckhead and howlin.


388 posted on 09/12/2004 10:11:19 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Smartaleck
"But apparently the entire thing was cooked up by a couple of amateurs on Free Republic. The speed with which it moved was breathtaking."

I understand that rabbits appear really fast to turtles.

389 posted on 09/12/2004 10:14:08 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: nutmeg

bttt


390 posted on 09/13/2004 12:44:49 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Howlin

Bookmarking timeline....


391 posted on 09/13/2004 12:50:50 AM PDT by Watery Tart (VRWPJC)
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To: beyond the sea

Of course the LATimes could actually do some journalism and probably find out who Buckhead is, but know why not just repeat some silly Dim theory.


392 posted on 09/13/2004 12:51:17 AM PDT by JLS
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To: airborne
What does it matter as long as the information is accurate. We sure as heck don't know who's doing what at CBS! And look how screwed up they got it. We 'amateurs' got it right!!

Exactly. The media doesn't seem to see a problem in us not knowing who provided these fraudulent documents to CBS. When the media stops publishing stuff from anonymous sources, then they'll have a right to complain.

393 posted on 09/13/2004 1:26:16 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: West Coast Conservative

Los Angeles Times No Disputing It: Blogs Are Major Players.

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I'd Rather Be Blogging CBS stonewalls as "guys in pajamas" uncover a fraud.

***……………. If it turns out that the Killian memos are indeed forgeries, the Internet will have played an invaluable role in exposing the fraud much faster than the 18 months Mr. Camacho had to twist in the wind. Free Republic, a Web bulletin board, raised early warning signals about the memos within hours of last Wednesday's "60 Minutes" broadcast. Powerlineblog.com, a site run by three lawyers, reposted those comments, which were amplified by indcjournal.com. Then design expert Charles Johnson, who blogs at littlegreenfootballs.com, retyped one of the memos using Microsoft Word and showed them to be a perfect typographic match.

A defensive Dan Rather went on the air Friday to complain of what he called a "counterattack" from "partisan political operatives." In reality, traditional journalism now has a new set of watchdogs in the "blogosphere." In the words of blogger Mickey Kaus, they can trade information and publicize it "fast enough to have real-world consequences." Sure, blogs can be transmission belts for errors, vicious gossip and last-minute disinformation efforts. But they can also correct themselves almost instantaneously--in sharp contrast with CBS's stonewalling. *** FR post

When C.redibility is B.asically S.uperficial

394 posted on 09/13/2004 1:32:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mo1

Sounds like they are fearmongers to me..


395 posted on 09/13/2004 1:44:53 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Gracey

ping


396 posted on 09/13/2004 1:47:55 AM PDT by Gracey (NOT Fonda Kerry and his 9.10 Democrat Party mentality)
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To: GummyIII

Did ya see this? Ya gots to love it!!


397 posted on 09/13/2004 1:59:41 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Constantine XIII

cool :)


398 posted on 09/13/2004 3:41:53 AM PDT by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Thanks, Kim!! Didn't see.... MORNIN'!!


399 posted on 09/13/2004 3:45:53 AM PDT by GummyIII (out of taglines at the moment.....reckon I could find one on e-bay?)
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To: West Coast Conservative
On- line is not a rabble of bloggers, we are members of a democracy, more democratic then ever democracy was concieved before. Our only tool for establishing our creditability is proof of truth.

Stripped from the online community is hierarchy, appearances, institutional educational background, and even cumulative wealth. All that is left, is to make one's self interesting and readable by offering the information given in an interesting format, and with proof that it is correct. There is no room for even charisma on- line, just the facts stated clearly and precisely.

The Democratic heirarchy has never been able to wrap their minds around this. Hence even Jamie Gorlick was quoted as saying; "I'm enormously impressed," said 9-11 Commisioner Jamie Gorelick, "that lay people with no powers of subpoena, with no access to insider information of any sort, could put together a very powerful set of questions and set of facts that are a road map for this commission. It is really quite striking. Now, what's your secret?"

400 posted on 09/13/2004 6:46:06 AM PDT by antonia ("Democracy is the worst type of government, excepting all others." ~ Churchill)
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