Kerry doomed, Fake docs and FR mention all on ABC's Notes.

ABC Notes ^ | 09-10-2004 | Various- ABC notes

[Smartaleck]

After you throw the "CHUM" into the water do you use a "spinner"?

Great analogy....chum usually being the cast offs, trash, craps and scraps of meat. The fish farmers equivilent of hog slop!!!!!!!!!

[AmericanMade1776]

Isn't there something Wrong with Journalism as a whole, when top anchors and journalist, report forged Documents as the truth, just because they hope the documents support their political bent. Why didn't Rather ask these questions about the Authenticity of the documents? WHY? Why? Why?

Here on this forum, the Free Republic, we just have average Citizens, asking questions about Documents,trained Journalist should of asked.

[supercat]

Other than running memos through a typesetter, there's just no way you could create that kind of type in those days.

And running them through a typesetter would not have yielded such a good fit for Times New Roman.

Indeed, even if one had a goofy desire to use a proportional font, one could at least have used something obscure. If the documents used a proportionally-spaced font that was untraceable, one could argue that, for some goofy reason, Killian had them typeset. Bizarre, but not impossible. But there's no way they'd be typeset in a font that so perfectly matches one that didn't yet exist.

[45Auto]

This little fiasco has "Carville" written all over it. Its exactly the type of crap he would pull. The Clinton Hit Machine has been activated for an all out push to discredit the Pres. and get that fool, Kerry, elected. It might have, too, if the idiot who prepared the document wasn't such a moron. The forgery issue is going to shift the emphasis of the whole story; once CBS sees the folly of pursuing it they will kill it. And the rest of the main stream Rat-bastard sycophantic media will fall in line. All for naught, however. Kerry was toast the minute he let that goof-ball wife of his make a speech at the DemoRAT Convention. No sane citizen wants that nut case in the White House. Mama T and the Gay Mafia in the Lincoln bedroom is just too horrid an image to fathom for the average Joe.

[hflynn]

The Clinton Hit Machine has been activated for an all out push to discredit the Pres. and get that fool, Kerry, elected.

I think your missing what is happening. The Clinton Hit Machine has been activated for an all out push to discredit Kerry. and get that fool (not my opinion theirs, I think Bush is a political genius and a great war President), Bush, elected.

[45Auto]

The Clinton Hit Machine has been activated for an all out push to discredit Kerry

Then Kerry is even dumber than I thought he was. The train of thought in your argument runs something like this:

Hillary wants to be Pres. She figures she doesn't have much time to wait. She can't allow Kerry to win and then re-run in '08, because she can't wait until 2012. So, Bill The Rat calls JF'n Kerry and says he can send in Carville, et al to help pull his [Kerry's] campaign out of the crap hole that its in. Kerry, being the gullible fool that he is, agrees. Kerry plays his hand with a phony memo, moves even further left to energize his base, and the rest is history - President Bush gets reelected in a landslide, Hillary gets to run for the nomination in '08. If true, Kerry is the dumbest SOB in the country.

[TheLion]

Welcome aboard!

I've been around for quite awhile. Even though it has gotten negative at times and we sometimes eat our own....I knew this site was making a difference. We just proved it!

[Truth Table]

(He says the focus should not be on the documents, but what the documents say. Pfffft! Yeah, right.)

Yep. Don't worry if they are "real", just read what they say...

[Truth Table]

What I don't understand about all of this, is that statement that the military person who handed off the so called memos to the DNC...

His wife and son said that no files existed that they knew of. Basically, a CBS flunky called them to plant the idea that the CBS was looking for these "files" while some flunky at the DNC or "Texans for truth" was busy typing up the "files" in MS word, while, presumably reading a book of USAF acronyms to make the "files" look authentic. Needless to say, the plan did not work out too well...

[hflynn]

If true, Kerry is the dumbest SOB in the country.

That's about it.

Lets go a little bit further. Kerry is hooked into going with the phony documents because the CLintonista's tell Kerry Dan Rather is on board and will run with the story on 60 Minutes and make it the lead story on the CBS Evening News as long as it has traction. If it looses traction Rather will apologize and bury the story. There is no possibility of damage to Kerry. Kerry jumps in with both feet.

Almost overnight the authenticity of the documents are challenged by experts from all over the US. It's pretty obvious the documents are phony and won't fly with the public. Kerry doesn't worry assuming Rather will apologize and move on to the Kitty Kelly book.

Now comes to good part. Rather insists the documents are authentic while at the same time admitting the document are photocopies, probably photocopies of photocopies of photocopies. Rather won't back off brings in a handwriting analyst to verify Killian's signature on a photocopy. The signature is the easy part of the documents to transfer from an original and authenticate. The expert addresses no other part of the document. The expert also turns out to be somebody who analyzed Courtney Loves husband's suicide note as well as Vince Foster's. Whoops the handwriting expert is connected to the Clintonista's.

So Rather continues to push the story and Kerry is being damaged every hour it continues and he has noway to stop Rather.

Yep, Kerry is the dumbest SOB in the country.

[45Auto]

It does seem somewhat plausible; but why do a hatchet job on Kerry now? It was clear that Kerry was not going to win anyway. Why take a chance that the whole thing might blow up like a manure bomb and some of the crap might stick to Hillary and Bill, thus damaging Hillary's chances for a later run at the White House? And then to top it all off, the morons bring in the same "expert" that they used to stave off a murder investigation in the Foster case. Not only would Kerry have to be the dumbest SOB in the country, but so would the majority of the population of the US! Still, I like your take on the whole episode. The Clintons are evil enough to set the whole thing up. And that would also make Dan Rather pretty stupid, to boot!

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320

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[fight_truth_decay]

Compare one of the Jerry Killian memos given to CBS News,
and allegedly produced in 1972, to the same text created using MS
Word 2002. A person who wishes to remain anonymous forwarded a
link to me for an animated presentation which overlaps the two
documents and shows, using a current font, how tab spacing and
inter-line spacing match the defaults in Microsoft's Word.

Brent Baker

You'll need to have Macromedia Flash installed to watch the
slide show. Check it out at:
http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=60minbusted.swf

from http://www.mediaresearch.org alert

[hflynn]

It does seem somewhat plausible; but why do a hatchet job on Kerry now? It was clear that Kerry was not going to win anyway. Why take a chance that the whole thing might blow up like a manure bomb and some of the crap might stick to Hillary and Bill, thus damaging Hillary's chances for a later run at the White House? And then to top it all off, the morons bring in the same "expert" that they used to stave off a murder investigation in the Foster case. Not only would Kerry have to be the dumbest SOB in the country, but so would the majority of the population of the US! Still, I like your take on the whole episode. The Clintons are evil enough to set the whole thing up. And that would also make Dan Rather pretty stupid, to boot

It isn't enough for Kerry to just lose. Kerry and Edwards have to be eliminated in 2004 as viable candidates in 2008. The bigger the margin of victory for Bush the better it will be for Hillary post Election Day.

There isn't any chance of it blowing up unless the media was interested in pursuing the story, They won't.

Dan Rather once said of the Clinton's, Mr. President, if we could be one-one-hundredth as great as you and Hillary Rodham Clinton have been together in the White House, we'd take it right now and walk away winners ...

In Dan's mine putting these 2 back in the White House means he can walk away a winner which is why he is willing participant in this up to his neck.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Hannity should have read Harkin the following passage from "Stolen Valor":

[Republic]

His wife and son said that no files existed that they knew of. Basically, a CBS flunky called them to plant the idea that the CBS was looking for these "files" while some flunky at the DNC or "Texans for truth" was busy typing up the "files" in MS word, while, presumably reading a book of USAF acronyms to make the "files" look authentic. Needless to say, the plan did not work out too well...

MY GOSH!

This just seems about right!

You may have nailed it.

Somehow, someway, someone or some group should figure out a way to FORCE CBS to explain where these memos came from....FIND THAT OUT....and you have the horror of this misinformation attempt NAILED DOWN!

[1FreeAmerican]

Agreed- ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

[lainde]

bttt

[tuesday afternoon]

FR bump

[Smartaleck]

I'll see your bump and raise you two. LOL