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Fox News to break forged document story
Fox News | 9/9/2004 | Fox News

Posted on 09/09/2004 3:10:33 PM PDT by Semper Paratus

Brit Hume announced story coming up now on National Guard docmunents


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; camejo; cbs; cheney; danrather; didbushcollaborate; didbushmeetwithenemy; dubya; edwards; election; forgery; gwb; kerry; kerryswaratrocities; killian; mediabias; nader; napalminthemorning; nationalguard; rather; ratherbiased; seebsnews; wasbushinparis; whatdidbushknow
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To: js1138

Go to the "CYA" memo and look at the space between Y and A.

Not done on a typewriter.


721 posted on 09/09/2004 5:05:03 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: Porterville

>>Psst.... news? I knew about this, this morning at the FRee Republic..... I don't even need cable to be ahead.... hell, Drudge is even 8 hours behind.<<

Which is why, as a news hound, I have been able to do without TV since '97. 8^>


722 posted on 09/09/2004 5:05:09 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: flaminco
"The White House released copies of the CBS-supplied fax."

Why did they do that?

Because far from the lie often told about them that they are the most secretive WH ever, they are quite open and transparent.

723 posted on 09/09/2004 5:05:32 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: concerned about politics

"proof" Bush was AWOL

but they don't know what AWOL means --

The thing about this is, even if the docs were real, they are nothing.

They think they have Bush nailed, and it is nothing.

They have no clue.

The stuff on Kerry: that IS real . . . and they don't realize that, either.

Of course, it is easier for J.Q. Public to understand "the documents are forgeries" than to understand the military status and actions and etc. So the fact that they were forged is gravy.


724 posted on 09/09/2004 5:05:36 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: tapatio

Did ABC draw any conclusions from that? Or, just left it up in the air what to make of computer use in 1972?


725 posted on 09/09/2004 5:05:42 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: LibWhacker
"I'll bet the FBI itself has a database of old typewriter fonts. I would think the FBI could determine in a matter of minutes whether or not there was cause to believe these documents were forged"

Checking the John F'n "flip-flop fop" Kerry medal citations as we speak.

I bet the FBI also have a fairly extensive dossier of the ORIGINAL scriblings of John F'n "flip-flop fop" Kerry on file, including samples of his efforts on his portable typewriter.

726 posted on 09/09/2004 5:06:42 PM PDT by spokeshave (Traitor Kerry did for free what the POWs received torture to make them say)
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To: tapatio

But...but... Ben Barnes borrowed Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine and sent a PC to Col. Killian!

This isn't the MSM jumping the shark--this is about the MSM being eaten by the shark!


727 posted on 09/09/2004 5:06:51 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: COEXERJ145
O' by the way, O'blowhard is dropping in the tv ratings at Fox...Hannity and Colms have taken the top spot!! Hannity is top dog now...LOVE IT!
728 posted on 09/09/2004 5:07:00 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: RoseofTexas

Good riddance to O'Bloviator.


729 posted on 09/09/2004 5:07:51 PM PDT by EggsAckley (.......John Kerry suffers from delusions of adequacy........)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
"The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch. I talk about what I see. It has always been so. You judge people not by their pocketbook but by their actions. Walk the walk."

From the Lancaster (PA) Intelligencer Journal

LSM indeed.

730 posted on 09/09/2004 5:08:15 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And we hope they're not coming back!)
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To: flaminco
"The White House released copies of the CBS-supplied fax."
Why did they do that?

The White House probably realized very early that they were forgeries. They really couldn't come out and yell that they were forgeries because it would make them look guilty so they did a very smart thing...they released them to the public. The public, as we now know, also very quickly saw that they were forgeries. This was a brilliant move by the White House.

731 posted on 09/09/2004 5:08:28 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: AMDG&BVMH

The Guard does not have any designation of AWOL -- it's under UCMJ, which the Guard wasn't under, since it's considered a State organization not a Federal organization, unless they are federally activated/deployed.


732 posted on 09/09/2004 5:08:41 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: tapatio
ABC news top of the hour report has Terry Moran saying ABC news gave the documents to several experts and they say the documents look like the work of a computer not a typewriter.

Sounds like the pirhanas smell blood in the water. I could stand to watch a media war between ABC and CBS. Who's bringing the popcorn?

733 posted on 09/09/2004 5:08:42 PM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Uncle Hal
CBS has not chosen that route.

CBS News denies Bush docs forged (then calls back to back off of earlier "expert" claim)

And when someday we finally learn who "these individuals" are, you can bet your bottom dollar they will not be Bush supporters.

734 posted on 09/09/2004 5:08:47 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: jimbo123

The collapse of the old media continues apace, only faster.


735 posted on 09/09/2004 5:10:18 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free)
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To: EllaMinnow

Don't want you to miss the link to the Weekly Standard at post #633.


736 posted on 09/09/2004 5:10:30 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I am a little surprised that Karl Rove and the RNC did not check these documents out in detail. Maybe they thought CBS would not be crazy enough to release forged documents.

Probably they just wanted to watch Dan the Clymer hang himself. They must be splitting a gut over this.

737 posted on 09/09/2004 5:10:38 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad)
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To: eno_

There is a small problem with your example. It is right-justified, and the CBS documents aren't. That would make the comparison of spacing impossible. Individual letters could be compared, however.


738 posted on 09/09/2004 5:11:22 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: js1138
FWIW

Got a response Pete Yost's office, the AP reporter who wrote one of the earlier articles saying Bush was now under the gun because of the new "documents". Note the bolded line below...

I pointed out the proportional fonts and superscripts, and concluded:

"If Mr. Yost wants a big scoop, maybe he could find out who gave these obvious forgeries to CBS.

"By the way, when will AP sue the government for Mr. Kerry's military records? Mr. Kerry is making you of the press look like sycophantic fools."

Response from Yosts office:

Appreciate the e-mail. We are pursuing Kerry's Vietnam war records. Thanks for the assessment of the document. If you have more information, please let us know immediately. Thanks.

739 posted on 09/09/2004 5:13:15 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Did ABC draw any conclusions from that? Or, just left it up in the air what to make of computer use in 1972?

Just the fact that A-BS is backing away from C-BS is damning enough. Red Dan and Co. are finished - the only way they can get out of this now is to admit that they were duped by the forgeries, retract the story, turn over the originals and the name of their source to the Feds so they can prosecute for forging government documents, and select a few ceremonial heads to lop off and display on pikes outside the ramparts.

They never will do this, of course.

740 posted on 09/09/2004 5:13:27 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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